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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNSA Spying Crushes US Tech Companies in Emerging Markets (“An Industry Phenomenon")
From Testosterone Pit, an economics blog the DU Stock Market Watch threads pointed me to:
Our top five emerging markets declined 21%, Chamber said, with Brazil down 25%, Mexico down 18%, India down 18%, China down 18%, and Russia down 30%.
Ive never seen that fast a move in emerging markets, Chambers said. His industry peers were seeing the same thing. Most of my CEO counterparts can almost finish my sentences in terms of whats occurring, he said. He even mentioned IBM. Its an industry phenomenon.
The NSAs reckless all-encompassing spying, and its hand-in-glove multi-billion-dollar collusion with US tech companies to accomplish it, is now wreaking havoc on these same tech companies. Revenues are getting crushed overseas. Emerging market governments and companies are looking at other options. Trust that has taken decades to build has evaporated. A study in early August estimated that the spying scandal would cost US tech companies $35 billion. Which might not even be enough for a down-payment: alone that 11% drop in Ciscos stock today cost shareholders $16 billion.
Its not a temporary issue. New revelations bubble to the surface all the time to complete the picture of a seamless, borderless, nearly perfect surveillance society. One dimension: the NSA and British GCHQ secretly break into the clouds of US companies to syphon off user data on a large scale. Illegal in the US. But the cloud is worldwide. Read .. NSA Secretly Breaks Into The Cloud Of US Tech Companies, Siphons Off Data, Fouls Up Revenues Overseas
Ive never seen that fast a move in emerging markets, Chambers said. His industry peers were seeing the same thing. Most of my CEO counterparts can almost finish my sentences in terms of whats occurring, he said. He even mentioned IBM. Its an industry phenomenon.
The NSAs reckless all-encompassing spying, and its hand-in-glove multi-billion-dollar collusion with US tech companies to accomplish it, is now wreaking havoc on these same tech companies. Revenues are getting crushed overseas. Emerging market governments and companies are looking at other options. Trust that has taken decades to build has evaporated. A study in early August estimated that the spying scandal would cost US tech companies $35 billion. Which might not even be enough for a down-payment: alone that 11% drop in Ciscos stock today cost shareholders $16 billion.
Its not a temporary issue. New revelations bubble to the surface all the time to complete the picture of a seamless, borderless, nearly perfect surveillance society. One dimension: the NSA and British GCHQ secretly break into the clouds of US companies to syphon off user data on a large scale. Illegal in the US. But the cloud is worldwide. Read .. NSA Secretly Breaks Into The Cloud Of US Tech Companies, Siphons Off Data, Fouls Up Revenues Overseas
I think this has to be filed under the "blowback" category. The relative silence of the tech industry on the issue has been rather astonishing. Germany is considering building its own internet backbone.
Another form of blowback: After the NSA revelations, who will listen to America on human rights? The comments are interesting as well. The author is heavily criticised for implying the US did have standing about human rights before Bush*.
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NSA Spying Crushes US Tech Companies in Emerging Markets (“An Industry Phenomenon") (Original Post)
BelgianMadCow
Nov 2013
OP
It's all Snowwald's fault for telling us things we've known since 2006 or 1996 or 1776 or something
Fumesucker
Nov 2013
#1
Right. It's not the NSA spying that's at fault, it's Snowden exposing it.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Nov 2013
#6
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)1. It's all Snowwald's fault for telling us things we've known since 2006 or 1996 or 1776 or something
BelgianMadCow
(5,379 posts)5. Only three replies down
but to each his or her opinion.
bemildred
(90,061 posts)2. And this is just the beginning. nt
gulliver
(13,318 posts)3. Nice job, Snowden!
The tempest in a teapot he and Greenwald started is putting Americans out of work. For nothing.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,011 posts)4. Blaming the people who uncovered illegal activities
instead of those who committed them?
The blowback is because of what our gov. did in violation of the law,
not because the behavior was reported.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)6. Right. It's not the NSA spying that's at fault, it's Snowden exposing it.
Oh, wait, you're......serious?
Quantess
(27,630 posts)7. K & R
Uncle Joe
(59,959 posts)8. Kicked and recommended.
Thanks for the thread, BelgianMadCow.
BelgianMadCow
(5,379 posts)9. No, thank you for all your kindness
in always thanking a poster for a thread, Uncle Joe.
Uncle Joe
(59,959 posts)10. Thanks for the kind words.
Peace to you and have a good evening, BelgianMadCow.