Petition Calls For Arresting And Charging Tea Party Republicans With Sedition

[dynasaw]

Tea Party Republicans could be charged with sedition under US law for holding America hostage.
According to the US Code (18 U.S.C. § 2384 ), seditious conspiracy is a crime under United States law. The law states in part that,

“If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to… prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States… they shall each be fined or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.”


http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/10/16/tea-party-sedition-petition/

[flamin lib]

1. .

[Cooley Hurd]

2. I'll pass...

One... the "Tea Party" is not a specific group or even a party. Two... even their stupid speech is protected under the First Amendmemt of the Constitution.

[Swede Atlanta]

3. While this will go nowhere I disagree with you....

There is ample evidence that the ultra-reich wing of the GOP have conspired against the Constitution and against the law of this country. They have used parliamentary and other instruments to achieve their objective which is to undermine the functioning of the U.S. government and prevent the implementation of the law of the land.

They should be tried and sentenced to a federal max security prison for at least 25 years.

[Cooley Hurd]

5. Go after them, then...

[cali]

8. then you should have no problem at all supplying that evidence

[former9thward]

11. Draft resisters openly fought the law during the Vietnam War period.

Should they have been charged with sedition?

[cali]

4. these people are just as scary as the teabaggers. fuck 'em.

and this idiotic shit has been posted repeatedly.

How can anyone be this fucking stupid?

[bobalew]

6. Although the sedition laws do not apparently apply, The invlovement of the Koch brothers, & Adelsson

& their activities, might qualify as racketeering...

[malaise]

7. Is planning a coup in public sedition or treason?

I really need an answer

[el_bryanto]

12. It's Sedition up to 7:30 PM and after that it's Treason. nt

[malaise]

15. LOL

I remember when Bushco used to lock up people protesting his illegal war and occupation

[NCTraveler]

9. Proof that both sides of the political spectrum...

have fascists within their ranks.

[cali]

13. yeah, but the right side has a fuck of a lot more of them.

still, it appalls the hell out of me each time this is posted and met with enthusiasm here.

[NCTraveler]

17. Correct on both counts, as usual. nt.

[el_bryanto]

10. Yes - there's no way that Republicans could ever use this expansion of the sedition law

against us; particularly if we lock them all up under charges of sedition.

This is the most brilliant plan ever.

And after we lock up all the tea party republicans, we can go after the mainstream republicans, wall street republicans, moderates, DLC Democrats, Blue Dog Democrats and Corportist Democrats. It can't fail.

Bryant

[cali]

18. off with their heads

and take a look at the rampant idiocy and fascism of (too many) of your fellow DUers.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023861235

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251329773

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023960047

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023800308

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021701052

Yes, my fellow DUer (too many of them) are frighteningly similar to the teabaggers when they advocate this atrocious crap.

In a way, they're scarier. I don't expect to have people that are putatively on "my side" being nothing more than fascist assholes.

[el_bryanto]

20. I think two things

Some people don't see the difference between tactics and principals - of course you should stand firm on principal, but tactics should be fluid.

And one of the first questions about a tactic that creates a precedent like this one is "What if they do it to us?"

Bryant

[cali]

21. that's an excellent point

but even if that question weren't included in the equation, I'd be horrified by this kind of "thinking".

[HijackedLabel]

14. There will be a point sometime in the future,

when we have to decide how to remove the dead weight holding back progress.

The tide must turn against those who say 'NO' to everything, one way or another.

[cali]

19. Constitution be damned! Off with their heads!

[HijackedLabel]

23. Thanks for putting words in my mouth.

It says more about you than me that you thought decapitation.

[dairydog91]

22. Perhaps we could send them to camps!

We need to to solve, once and for all, the dead weight holding back progress!

[HijackedLabel]

24. Who said anything about camps? nt

[seveneyes]

25. We have a system in place now, it's called voting

It's slow, meticulous and requires public participation. It's similar to dodge-ball, except we get to pick the captains of the teams.

[HijackedLabel]

27. One way or another meant cutthroat politicking.

That gets results at the voting booth.

Not sure why everyone assumed violent acts.

[Abq_Sarah]

34. Probably because you said:

we have to decide how to remove the dead weight holding back progress

What is there to decide? Under our system of government, the voting booth is the only option.

[noiretextatique]

40. right...that worked out great for us in 2000

with a partisan SCOTUS disenfranchising the entire country.

[melm00se]

16. this is a prime example of selective editing

to whip people up.

from the petition solicitation:

“If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to… prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States… they shall each be fined or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.”

from the actual text of the law:

If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.

kind of skipped over the "...by force" part

[dairydog91]

26. And "force" is a limited legal term.

Here, "Force" must be "contrary to the authority (of the Government)", which means that one of the legal definitions of force, "lawful coercion", would not satisfy the requirement of the statute. That leaves you with the other legal definition of force, "unlawful violence".

[VanillaRhapsody]

28. actually you forgot the word "or" part...

those two letters make a big difference in that statement.

"...or to destroy by force...".

[Ranchemp.]

29. Please, not again.

[Dreamer Tatum]

30. You naysayers are missing a seldom-cited clause in the law

18 USC Chapter 115 - TREASON, SEDITION, AND SUBVERSIVE ACTIVITIES


2384

If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.

2384.1

The above conditions notwithstanding, if two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, have a differing political viewpoint from pissed-off people on an Internet message board, or if those two or more persons are deemed by a preponderance of Internet message board users to be, without limitation, just plain assholes, dickheads, rednecks, freeper scum, morans, fundies, or teabaggers, they shall each be fined under this title, imprisoned for fucking ever, and their pictures shall be Photoshopped with, like, horns and bug eyes and funny shit like that.

[louis-t]

31. I'll sign it right now.

[badtoworse]

32. Not this shit again.

[FSogol]

33. While I agree the tea party and GOP are major asshats w/o the best interests of the country

in mind, do we really want to criminalize politics?

and a major unrec.

[tritsofme]

35. Take a civics class, please.

[Aerows]

36. The easiest way to fix the problem

is to vote these dunderhead Tea Partiers out of office, thereby proving that the American public disagrees with their tactics.

In fact, that's really the only way. By all means if individually one breaks the law, press charges, but getting rid of ineffective and harmful people in office still means voting them out.

I think they are going to get bold again, considering what has happened with the ACA rollout and assume they have public support. Then they will do something completely stupid and remind everyone why they need to be ejected from office at the polls.

[Rex]

37. If they didn't break any laws, then they have nothing to worry about right?

nt.

[Puzzledtraveller]

38. A Superawesome idea!

The petioners can volunteer for the round up too. I'll be rooting from here.

[Captain Stern]

39. I think I'll pass.

This is no less silly than birthirism.

[Coyotl]

41. "What are we going to do tonight, Brain?"

We are going to take over the world, Pinky.