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eridani

(51,907 posts)
Sat Nov 16, 2013, 05:59 AM Nov 2013

George W Bush's New 'Crusade': Converting Jews to Christianity

Supporters of Israel who fall for this crap are going to be in for a world of hurt.

http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/378-bush-administration/20439-george-w-bushs-new-crusade-converting-jews-to-christianity

Some people think George W Bush did as much as he could to bring about Armageddon with his earlier interventions in the Middle East. But not the man himself, apparently. He has signed up for a fundraising event for the Messianic Jewish Bible Institute, an organisation which aims to promote the second coming by converting Jews to Christianity, and will speak today at their fundraiser in Irving, Texas.

Such "Messianic Jews" - who accept that Jesus was the promised Messiah - are loathed by most other Jews, and regarded with great suspicion by mainstream Christian denominations. If Jesus really was the promised Messiah, this would restore much of the traditional basis for Christian anti-semitism, which most Christians have struggled against for the last 50 years.

But a belief in the necessary conversion of the Jews still flourishes on the wilder shores of American Christianity. Portions of Biblical prophecy seem to require it. And there is widespread confusion among evangelicals about whether Israel is really a kind of America overseas - a recent poll for the Pew Foundation found that twice as many American Evangelicals as American Jews were unwavering in their support for Israel. This is something that successive Israeli governments have deliberately cultivated.

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George W Bush's New 'Crusade': Converting Jews to Christianity (Original Post) eridani Nov 2013 OP
Ol' Georgie boy is part of the New Apostolic Reformation (Christian Dominionism), me thinks. blkmusclmachine Nov 2013 #1
And Ted Cruz watoos Nov 2013 #10
He is really amazing. Somehow he manages to be offensive no matter what he does. LuvNewcastle Nov 2013 #2
Ya know where he could convert a shitload of people to Jeeeeeeeeezus? Mostly Orbiting Nov 2013 #3
+1 Enthusiast Nov 2013 #4
That's exactly where he needs to be making converts. LuvNewcastle Nov 2013 #5
... Fumesucker Nov 2013 #6
That's some scary stuff right there. marble falls Nov 2013 #11
Hmm. His plans typically include torture and killing hundreds of thousands of innocents. tclambert Nov 2013 #7
I was once asked to donate to a "mission" DFW Nov 2013 #8
+1,000,000,000,000 Dawson Leery Nov 2013 #17
She would have been appalled at the Xmas cards my dad had us mail out one year. freshwest Nov 2013 #18
little does she know the Christians are either Papists or Maoists there... MisterP Nov 2013 #20
fowarding this to Netanyahu SummerSnow Nov 2013 #9
Netanyahu is probably friends with these people. LuvNewcastle Nov 2013 #12
Forward it to the Simon Wiesenthal center while you're at it. Hubert Flottz Nov 2013 #14
The stupidity, she burns. WinkyDink Nov 2013 #13
Reminiscent of Manson and Helter Skelter tavernier Nov 2013 #15
Next he'll be doing a TV show called "Dancing with the Crooks" BlueJazz Nov 2013 #16
Nothing new for the Bush family. Archae Nov 2013 #19
 

blkmusclmachine

(16,149 posts)
1. Ol' Georgie boy is part of the New Apostolic Reformation (Christian Dominionism), me thinks.
Sat Nov 16, 2013, 06:36 AM
Nov 2013

Just like Pappy Bush.

LuvNewcastle

(16,844 posts)
2. He is really amazing. Somehow he manages to be offensive no matter what he does.
Sat Nov 16, 2013, 06:40 AM
Nov 2013

He should teach a class on how to be offensive. Of course, I'm offended every time he takes a breath.

 

Mostly Orbiting

(36 posts)
3. Ya know where he could convert a shitload of people to Jeeeeeeeeezus?
Sat Nov 16, 2013, 07:00 AM
Nov 2013

Prison. And he could also preach about the danger posed by Satan, his cellmate and former Vice President.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
6. ...
Sat Nov 16, 2013, 08:04 AM
Nov 2013
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2009/08/gog-magog-and-george-bush



Chirac recounts that the American leader appealed to their “common faith” (Christianity) and told him: “Gog and Magog are at work in the Middle East.... The biblical prophecies are being fulfilled.... This confrontation is willed by God, who wants to use this conflict to erase his people’s enemies before a New Age begins.”

This bizarre episode occurred while the White House was assembling its “coalition of the willing” to unleash the Iraq invasion. Chirac says he was boggled by Bush’s call and “wondered how someone could be so superficial and fanatical in their beliefs.”

After the 2003 call, the puzzled French leader didn’t comply with Bush’s request. Instead, his staff asked Thomas Romer, a theologian at the University of Lausanne, to analyze the weird appeal.

....In 2007, Dr. Romer recounted Bush’s strange behavior in Lausanne University’s review, Allez Savoir....Subsequently, ex-President Chirac confirmed the nutty event in a long interview with French journalist Jean-Claude Maurice, who tells the tale in his new book, Si Vous le Répétez, Je Démentirai (If You Repeat it, I Will Deny), released in March by the publisher Plon.

DFW

(54,372 posts)
8. I was once asked to donate to a "mission"
Sat Nov 16, 2013, 08:10 AM
Nov 2013

Some so-called "Christian" woman was asking for funding for a trip to India to convert people to Christianity.

I answered that I would donate amount equal to the amount she donated for Hindus from India to come to America to convert Americans to Hinduism.

No money changed hands, and for some reason, she did not take kindly to my suggestion.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
18. She would have been appalled at the Xmas cards my dad had us mail out one year.
Sat Nov 16, 2013, 01:33 PM
Nov 2013

There were boxes of them specially made up, good card paper and metallic colors, like little booklets.

All philosophies and faiths got equal billing, just the way my family saw them, as believers in secularism.

Each had a symbol and saying that was translated. Included were Hindu, Zoroastrianism, Baha'i, Buddhism, Judaism, Islam, Christianity and others.

The important part was the message inscribed on the facing pages, but it was all the same:

The Golden Rule.

Sans all the supernatural or cultural differences, that's what remains of worth. A person doesn't have to subscribe to a belief system to get there.

JMHO.

LuvNewcastle

(16,844 posts)
12. Netanyahu is probably friends with these people.
Sat Nov 16, 2013, 08:54 AM
Nov 2013

The Dominionist Christians are strongly allied with the Israeli RWers. The Dominionists are in Congress too, and they have influence with a lot of wealthy Americans. They're supporters of the Likud Party and other radical elements of Israelis who want to kick out all of the Palestinians and Muslims. The Dominionists believe that the Jews have to rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem before Armageddon and then the Second Coming of Jesus. The Israeli radicals remain allies of the Dominionists because they're politically and economically useful.

Hubert Flottz

(37,726 posts)
14. Forward it to the Simon Wiesenthal center while you're at it.
Sat Nov 16, 2013, 08:55 AM
Nov 2013

I think they still hunt war criminals with NAZI connections.

tavernier

(12,388 posts)
15. Reminiscent of Manson and Helter Skelter
Sat Nov 16, 2013, 08:59 AM
Nov 2013

These power mad sociopaths with their god complex, always with a grand plan. Manson murdered dozens, Bush thousands.

Archae

(46,327 posts)
19. Nothing new for the Bush family.
Sat Nov 16, 2013, 01:36 PM
Nov 2013

George Elder whored himself to "Reverend" Moon, giving speeches and taking from them millions.

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