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Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
Sat Nov 16, 2013, 07:41 PM Nov 2013

A ray of hope found at the dump.

They had no slick posters. Just a hand drawn sign. Two women obviously on their own dime. For once not the scouts or the boosters, no cookies for sale. This table at the dump was not taking spare change. Just a simple petition, just sign on the line. A town warrant was what they had in mind.


We, the People of the United States of America, reject the U.S. Supreme Court's ruling in Citizens United and other related cases, and move to amend our Constitution to firmly establish that money is not speech, and that human beings, not corporations, are persons entitled to constitutional rights.

https://movetoamend.org/gearing-now-frame-next-national-election

It will only be efforts like this, us, we the people, organizing at the grass roots level, with no media anointed leaders, no funding, no help from above, that will bring about the fundamental changes that are required to reverse the course we are on.

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A ray of hope found at the dump. (Original Post) Warren Stupidity Nov 2013 OP
We desperately need this amendment if we're ever going to LuvNewcastle Nov 2013 #1
Meanwhile, we could actually treat corps... Bigmack Nov 2013 #2
habeus corpus BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2013 #18
rec. SammyWinstonJack Nov 2013 #3
Is there a formula for what works? ffr Nov 2013 #4
$$ + Politician = Legislation n/t jtuck004 Nov 2013 #6
Well, at least the mega rich Mr.Bill Nov 2013 #5
Top Obama Donors Jackpine Radical Nov 2013 #8
Nice, but I kind of feel that this list is not so useful without a breakdown by type. DLnyc Nov 2013 #17
Happy hunting. Jackpine Radical Nov 2013 #19
We are not Democrats unless... ReRe Nov 2013 #7
+1 daleanime Nov 2013 #13
When Money = Speech than Speech is No Longer Free. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2013 #9
That's a keeper. ZX86 Nov 2013 #10
Perfect. nt 12AngryBorneoWildmen Nov 2013 #11
Now that would be an awesome bumper sticker. LuvNewcastle Nov 2013 #12
Or t-shirt. daleanime Nov 2013 #14
+1 a whole bunch.......nt Enthusiast Nov 2013 #15
K&R PowerToThePeople Nov 2013 #16

LuvNewcastle

(16,844 posts)
1. We desperately need this amendment if we're ever going to
Sat Nov 16, 2013, 08:00 PM
Nov 2013

make a change in this country. We should be able to start petitions in every state simultaneously. Unlike other amendments, I believe the hard part would be getting it passed in Congress. I think the state legislatures will actually be a little easier.

 

Bigmack

(8,020 posts)
2. Meanwhile, we could actually treat corps...
Sat Nov 16, 2013, 08:05 PM
Nov 2013

..like people.

Jail, probation, fines, house arrest, etc

All that for the CEOs and Boards.

If there is a person... there has to be a body or bodies to answer for crimes.

ffr

(22,669 posts)
4. Is there a formula for what works?
Sat Nov 16, 2013, 08:24 PM
Nov 2013

Most of us are ignorant of how to move petitions forward and at what level of government to bring these petitions to. For us, we need someone to help get out foot in the door, so we too can help.

Mr.Bill

(24,284 posts)
5. Well, at least the mega rich
Sat Nov 16, 2013, 08:29 PM
Nov 2013

didn't get a very good return on their investment in the last election. Maybe people are getting smarter and cost of buying votes through advertising will become prohibitively expensive.

I do agree with the OP that a constitutional amendment should be sought and supported.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
8. Top Obama Donors
Sat Nov 16, 2013, 08:55 PM
Nov 2013

This table lists the top donors to this candidate in the 2012 election cycle. The organizations themselves did not donate , rather the money came from the organizations' PACs, their individual members or employees or owners, and those individuals' immediate families. Organization totals include subsidiaries and affiliates.

Because of contribution limits, organizations that bundle together many individual contributions are often among the top donors to presidential candidates. These contributions can come from the organization's members or employees (and their families). The organization may support one candidate, or hedge its bets by supporting multiple candidates. Groups with national networks of donors - like EMILY's List and Club for Growth - make for particularly big bundlers.

University of California $1,212,245
Microsoft Corp $814,645
Google Inc $801,770
US Government $728,647
Harvard University $668,368
Kaiser Permanente $588,386
Stanford University $512,356
Deloitte LLP $456,975
Columbia University $455,309
Time Warner $442,271
US Dept of State $417,629
DLA Piper $401,890
Sidley Austin LLP $400,883
Walt Disney Co $369,598
IBM Corp $369,491
University of Chicago $357,185
University of Michigan $339,806
Comcast Corp $337,628
US Dept of Justice $334,659
US Dept of Health & Human Services $309,956

DLnyc

(2,479 posts)
17. Nice, but I kind of feel that this list is not so useful without a breakdown by type.
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 04:49 PM
Nov 2013

IBM "gave" about 400,000. But IBM is a huge company, it would not be surprising if 2,000 liberal employees of IBM independently gave 200 each just because they like Obama. On the other hand, if this is a bundled contribution from 200 execs giving the max 2,000 each, that sounds more like a concerted effort to influence legislation. But the list doesn't distinguish, so I am not sure what conclusions to draw.

I guess I think it would be more useful with information like size and number of bundled contributions, how many checks, average and median amounts, etc.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
19. Happy hunting.
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 06:06 PM
Nov 2013

I'm sure there is a lot of information out there if you care to make an intensive search. Personally, I don't.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
7. We are not Democrats unless...
Sat Nov 16, 2013, 08:53 PM
Nov 2013

... this petition is presented at every single Democratic get together from here on in until it's actually taken up and passed. Every single time that more than two Democrats meet, this Move To Amend petition must be present. As well, on street corners, at fairs, get-togethers of ANY kind, ANYWHERE. Don't anyone ever say it can't be done. It can and it must be done, and ASAP unless we are just going to give up on democracy in America forever.

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