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Triana

(22,666 posts)
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 09:14 AM Nov 2013

"America’s angriest white men: Up close with racism, rage and Southern supremacy"



Who are the white supremacists? There has been no formal survey, for obvious reasons, but there are several noticeable patterns. Geographically, they come from America’s heartland—small towns, rural cities, swelling suburban sprawl outside larger Sunbelt cities. These aren’t the prosperous towns, but the single-story working-class exurbs that stretch for what feels like forever in the corridor between Long Beach and San Diego (not the San Fernando Valley), or along the southern tier of Pennsylvania, or spread all through the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, across the vast high plains of eastern Washington and Oregon, through Idaho and Montana. There are plenty in the declining cities of the Rust Belt, in Dearborn and Flint, Buffalo and Milwaukee, in the bars that remain in the shadows of the hulking deserted factories that once were America’s manufacturing centers. And that doesn’t even touch the former states of the Confederacy, where flying the Confederate flag is a culturally approved symbol of “southern pride”—in the same way that wearing a swastika would be a symbol of German “heritage” (except it’s illegal in Germany to wear a swastika).

There’s a large rural component. Although “the spread of far-right groups over the last decade has not been limited to rural areas alone,” writes Osha Gray Davidson, “the social and economic unraveling of rural communities—especially in the midwest—has provided far-right groups with new audiences for their messages of hate. Some of these groups have enjoyed considerable success in their rural campaign.” For many farmers facing foreclosures, the Far Right promises to help them save their land have been appealing, offering farmers various schemes and legal maneuvers to help prevent foreclosures, blaming the farmers’ troubles on Jewish bankers and the one-world government. “As rural communities started to collapse,” Davidson writes, the Far Right “could be seen at farm auctions comforting families . . . confirming what rural people knew to be true: that their livelihoods, their families, their communities—their very lives—were falling apart.” In stark contrast to the government indifference encountered by rural Americans, a range of Far Right groups, most recently the militias, have seemingly provided support, community, and answers.

In that sense, the contemporary militias and other white supremacist groups are following in the footsteps of the Ku Klux Klan, the Posse Comitatus, and other Far Right patriot groups who recruited members in rural America throughout the 1980s. They tap into a long history of racial and ethnic paranoia in rural America, as well as an equally long tradition of collective local action and vigilante justice. There remains a widespread notion that “Jews, African-Americans, and other minority-group members ‘do not entirely belong,’” which may, in part, “be responsible for rural people’s easy acceptance of the far right’s agenda of hate,” writes Matthew Snipp. “The far right didn’t create bigotry in the Midwest; it didn’t need to,” Davidson concludes. “It merely had to tap into the existing undercurrent of prejudice once this had been inflamed by widespread economic failure and social discontent.”

And many have moved from their deindustrializing cities, foreclosed suburban tracts, and wasted farmlands to smaller rural areas because they seek the companionship of like-minded fellows, in relatively remote areas far from large numbers of nonwhites and Jews and where they can organize, train, and build protective fortresses. Many groups have established refuge in rural communities, where they can practice military tactics, stockpile food and weapons, hone their survivalist skills, and become self-sufficient in preparation for Armageddon, the final race war, or whatever cataclysm they envision. Think of it as the twenty-first-century version of postwar suburban “white flight”—but on steroids.


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http://www.salon.com/2013/11/17/americas_angriest_white_men_up_close_with_racism_rage_and_southern_supremacy/
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"America’s angriest white men: Up close with racism, rage and Southern supremacy" (Original Post) Triana Nov 2013 OP
Interesting piece - scary stuff, both the fear of these people and the way... polichick Nov 2013 #1
A little dissapointing Mopar151 Nov 2013 #2
America’s dumbest white men KG Nov 2013 #3
It's easy to develop irrational hatreds when one lives in relative isolation GreenEyedLefty Nov 2013 #4
We ignore these people at our own peril. . . DinahMoeHum Nov 2013 #5
A good read treestar Nov 2013 #6
A lot seems like generational warfare as well tabbycat31 Nov 2013 #7
kick Duppers Nov 2013 #8
K&R Solly Mack Nov 2013 #9
K&R Cali_Democrat Nov 2013 #10
K&R. Paladin Nov 2013 #11
I grew up around some openly racist people rbrnmw Nov 2013 #12
This sentence explains it all kydo Nov 2013 #13
Important quote from the excerpt: Laelth Nov 2013 #14

polichick

(37,152 posts)
1. Interesting piece - scary stuff, both the fear of these people and the way...
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 09:21 AM
Nov 2013

they are preyed upon by far-right proselytizers.

GreenEyedLefty

(2,073 posts)
4. It's easy to develop irrational hatreds when one lives in relative isolation
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 10:19 AM
Nov 2013

I mean, if you never met a Jewish or African American person because you live in an area that is so remote as to not even be considered an "exurb," it's easy to hate them as a whole group. It's clear to me that it's easier to justify hating "the other," than to ponder the racial makeup of who ultimately wrought the economic misfortunes upon them.

My MIL rails against "the blacks" and "the Mexicans" and any other group that she perceives as having been given preferential treatment by the government. She thinks that their supposed advantages automatically put her and her family at a disadvantage. Totally irrational. But I do think there is a kernel of truth there... the government does give preferential treatment. To corporations, to Wall Street, corporate media, etc., who in turn create smoke and mirrors by ginning up stories of welfare/food stamp cheats, affirmative action "injustices" against white people, etc. And they know "the base" will buy it.

DinahMoeHum

(21,783 posts)
5. We ignore these people at our own peril. . .
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 11:02 AM
Nov 2013
http://www.salon.com/2013/11/17/americas_angriest_white_men_up_close_with_racism_rage_and_southern_supremacy/

(snip)
So, who are they really, these hundred thousand white supremacists? They’re every white guy who believed that this land was his land, was made for you and me. They’re every down-on-his-luck guy who just wanted to live a decent life but got stepped on, every character in a Bruce Springsteen or Merle Haggard song, every cop, soldier, auto mechanic, steelworker, and construction worker in America’s small towns who can’t make ends meet and wonders why everyone else is getting a break except him. But instead of becoming Tom Joad, a left-leaning populist, they take a hard right turn, ultimately supporting the very people who have dispossessed them.

They’re America’s Everymen, whose pain at downward mobility and whose anger at what they see as an indifferent government have become twisted by a hate that tells them they are better than others, disfigured by a resentment so deep that there are no more bridges to be built, no more ladders of upward mobility to be climbed, a howl of pain mangled into the scream of a warrior. Their rage is as sad as it is frightening, as impotent as it is shrill.

(snip)


*the boldface emphasis is mine - DMH

treestar

(82,383 posts)
6. A good read
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 04:18 PM
Nov 2013

Really getting into the underlying errors of these people and why they feel so sorry for themselves.

tabbycat31

(6,336 posts)
7. A lot seems like generational warfare as well
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 05:10 PM
Nov 2013

Face it, the younger people this article is talking about (the author said the average age is 36) was screwed by their parents, who lost the family business, farm, etc that supported the family for generations. (As a 33 year old, I know that barring a winning lottery ticket, I'm never going to have the financial status of my parents, in fact I doubt I'll see any of the SS that I am paying into).

Instead of doing what the previous generations did, these younger Americans (in an area where jobs are not abundant) must work Burger King style jobs (and wages) and are not getting by. They should be the first people fighting to raise the minimum wage.

rbrnmw

(7,160 posts)
12. I grew up around some openly racist people
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 09:18 AM
Nov 2013

but I was raised by subperb parents who spoke of the racial inequelities and explained how horrible and unjust it all was. They had Black Like Me. I read it at 12 and again at 17 it changed my point of view my parents campaigned for The Democratic Party and were quite liberal so I heard things at the dinner table that most kids didn't my parents were political and that's what they chose to teach us through example and open honesty. My Parents both cried tears of joys the day President Obama won my Dad got to see him before he died I am so glad I was here to take him. He said he never thought he'd live to see the day. He also felt in some ways PBO win brought the ugly racists to the surface they were kind of quiet with their racist rhetoric and kept it mostly to themselves. I do believe that's true.

kydo

(2,679 posts)
13. This sentence explains it all
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 09:34 AM
Nov 2013
... And that doesn’t even touch the former states of the Confederacy, where flying the Confederate flag is a culturally approved symbol of “southern pride”—in the same way that wearing a swastika would be a symbol of German “heritage” (except it’s illegal in Germany to wear a swastika). ....


Southern Pride = Nazi Germany

Only in the USA, we are too chicken shit to call out the "southern pride" crap for what it truly is, Racism. Ironically the Nazi Channel, oops History Channel, lays it all out there. I don't know why but I was watching one of those Nazi Gospel's the other day. I've seen it before and its intention is to show how evil, deranged, extreme, and total bat shit crazy, the members, leaders, and ideology of the Nazi Party were. It is scary how eerily similar the Nazis and the Tea Party aka Republicans, really are.

But it took the death of millions in concentration camps and gas chambers before Germany finally understood the magnitude of what racism does. Now many symbols of Nazi Germany are illegal in Germany and shunned in most civilized areas of the world.

Look at Prince Harry when he wore the Nazi costume at a party. What would have happened to him if he had picked a rebel costume instead? Probably nothing, that's the sad part.

I find symbols of the confederacy passing as southern pride terrifying. The glorification of hate and racism is disgusting.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
14. Important quote from the excerpt:
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 09:57 AM
Nov 2013
The unifying theme is gender.

These men feel emasculated by big money and big government. In their eyes, most white American men collude in their emasculation. They’ve grown soft, feminized, weak.


I need to read the whole book, but I think this idea is central.

-Laelth
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