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ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 05:13 PM Nov 2013

Anonymous Hacks Neo-Nazis, Finds Ron Paul

A few months old, but still...

The hacktivist collective Anonymous set out to take down the white
supremacist American Third Party (A3P) in what they called “Operation
Blitzkrieg” but they may have done much more.
In a document dump that includes private forum messages, emails,
organization notes another other information the group found numerous
connections between Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul and A3P. According to the documents, all hosted here, Paul himself regularly met with many A3P members, engaged in conference calls with their board of directors and engaged in a “bridging tactic” between A3P and the Ron Paul Revolution.
Other excerpts show A3P webmaster Jamie Kelso (whose email account
was one hacked by the collective) coordinating meeting between Paul and
other members of A3P such as corporate lawyer and chairman of the
neo-Nazi group Paul. “I’m going to go to the Conservative Political
Action Conference (CPAC) with Bill Johnson,” reads an email to an A3P
member dated January 2011. “Bill and I will be meeting with Ron and Ran Paul.
I have a teleconference call with Bill (and Ron Paul) tonight. Much
more later. Things are starting to happen (thanks to folks like you).”
In another passage, Kelso, a former Scientologist and account owner
of other German Nazi forums, wrote: “I’ll be at CPAC from Feb. 9 to Feb.
12. I’ll send back reports to you from personal meetings with Ron Paul,
newly-elected Senator Rand Paul and many others. It’ll be here on
WhiteNewsNow, a place that is really starting to get interesting because
of the presence of folks like you. Birds of a feather flock together,
and we are really gathering some quality here.”
Accusations of racism and ties to neo-Nazi interests have plagued
Paul since the 1990s and have re-surfaced during this campaign. So far
Paul has issued standard denials, claiming not to have been aware of the
ties between his camp and the racist right and denied authorship of a
series of racist newsletters, despite confirmation from his closest
staff that Paul signed off on every detail.


http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=cb5_1372379074#T5s1C8eeR6f6sCwp.99
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Anonymous Hacks Neo-Nazis, Finds Ron Paul (Original Post) ZombieHorde Nov 2013 OP
Well, well, well..... Bennyboy Nov 2013 #1
Oh dear the shite is about to hit hte fan again malaise Nov 2013 #2
First plagerism now white supremacy? Initech Nov 2013 #6
Truth will out malaise Nov 2013 #8
Rand Paul was the plagiarist NewJeffCT Nov 2013 #13
It's not in the headline but a2liberal Nov 2013 #18
Yeah I know that. Initech Nov 2013 #21
don't worry. Rand will accuse Anon with plaigerism. :D:D:D roguevalley Nov 2013 #28
Why does this not surprise me? Ron Paul is very far from reality, he operated in Congress the Thinkingabout Nov 2013 #3
It was incredible how fools were fooled by him. MythosMaster Nov 2013 #9
It amazes me so many never saw him for what he is. I think he only got one bill passed Thinkingabout Nov 2013 #23
Hey, I like ANYTHING that discredits these two dingdongs. calimary Nov 2013 #56
Luvs me some Anonymous... truebluegreen Nov 2013 #4
HUGE K & R !!! WillyT Nov 2013 #5
Liveleak dot com Turbineguy Nov 2013 #7
I stopped reading the comments there. MythosMaster Nov 2013 #54
WhiteNewsNow? toby jo Nov 2013 #10
I know! But I do credit the racists who are 'out.' tblue Nov 2013 #29
Thanks for this news from Anonymous! ReRe Nov 2013 #11
K&R! For truth!! hue Nov 2013 #12
I'm not surprised. His philosophy is pretty close to theirs as are many Cleita Nov 2013 #14
Why am I not surprised ismnotwasm Nov 2013 #15
Haven't Ron Paul's ties to Neo Nazi groups been known for a while? NewJeffCT Nov 2013 #16
It's old news Major Nikon Nov 2013 #19
It's old news but the Ron Paul Defense Force deflects. joshcryer Nov 2013 #32
Now this is the real Anon at work. Coyotl Nov 2013 #17
I loved this part Oilwellian Nov 2013 #20
+1,000 malaise Nov 2013 #25
Wasn't so long ago that people were citing Ron Paul as a voice of reason Orrex Nov 2013 #22
According to da' YouTube comments last year, Jamaal510 Nov 2013 #37
Not just on YouTube Orrex Nov 2013 #42
Agreeing with his antiwar position hardly means agreeing with anything else he says eridani Nov 2013 #43
Agreeing is one thing Orrex Nov 2013 #49
You are being dishonest eridani Nov 2013 #64
February 2012 = old news. nt alp227 Nov 2013 #24
Maybe because the MSM won't push the story--but that doesn't mean that tblue37 Nov 2013 #26
K & R! lastlib Nov 2013 #27
Thank You For Sharing - Thank You Anonymous cantbeserious Nov 2013 #30
No shit, and those who said Ron Paul's views "needed to be heard"... joshcryer Nov 2013 #31
I Would Like To See This From A 2nd Source DallasNE Nov 2013 #33
I really hope... CSStrowbridge Nov 2013 #34
But Rand Paul isn't racist; Jamaal510 Nov 2013 #38
I remember reading some threads about that. BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2013 #35
Posted Jun 2013 and completely ignored by press The Traveler Nov 2013 #36
Al Sharpton mentioned this piece of news Jamaal510 Nov 2013 #39
Oh dear, I was the 88th rec. hootinholler Nov 2013 #40
They were holding fundraisers for Paul back in 2007 frazzled Nov 2013 #41
The man is a slavery apologist Major Nikon Nov 2013 #44
Precisely...Daddy Ron had a newsletter with openly racist statements, and whathehell Nov 2013 #57
K&R! nt Enthusiast Nov 2013 #45
Reads like wet dream fanfic. mattclearing Nov 2013 #46
Busted! Fantastic Anarchist Nov 2013 #47
K&R DeSwiss Nov 2013 #48
Kick fishwax Nov 2013 #50
not surprised at all heaven05 Nov 2013 #51
We see plenty if that around where I live. 47of74 Nov 2013 #61
Nah, he's a hero to them uponit7771 Nov 2013 #52
The only people surprised at this are the ones not paying attention: Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #53
Both Ron and his spawn Rand are racist bastards dbackjon Nov 2013 #55
Go Anonymous! colsohlibgal Nov 2013 #58
Neo-Nazis supporting a white libertarian? NuclearDem Nov 2013 #59
...the company you keep... /nt tomm2thumbs Nov 2013 #60
A few months old? TekGryphon Nov 2013 #62
is that Bill Johnson the congressman? maindawg Nov 2013 #63

malaise

(268,930 posts)
8. Truth will out
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 05:36 PM
Nov 2013

I don't know why these racist scumbags don't crawl back in their holes.
That they are beazen enough to seek public office is scary. That he won a Senate seat is frightening.

Initech

(100,063 posts)
21. Yeah I know that.
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 06:33 PM
Nov 2013

I'm all for anything that will get those morons out of office. Or anywhere near the presidency.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
28. don't worry. Rand will accuse Anon with plaigerism. :D:D:D
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 07:04 PM
Nov 2013

ANON! YOU ARE MY HEROES!! You and OWS RULE!

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
3. Why does this not surprise me? Ron Paul is very far from reality, he operated in Congress the
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 05:24 PM
Nov 2013

Same way. He railed against spending but was an earmark king, adding earmarks to bills he knew would pass and then vote against the bill and say he always voted against spending. He was not against spending more money on his travels when tax payers was paying the bill. I am glad he has retired.

MythosMaster

(445 posts)
9. It was incredible how fools were fooled by him.
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 05:41 PM
Nov 2013

I saw through him years ago.... My delusional 'Libertarian" friends that are too embarrassed to call them selves Republicans, even though they voted for Bush, Twice!

I would point to the R in front of Ron's party affiliation and ask them what party does he belong too again?

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
23. It amazes me so many never saw him for what he is. I think he only got one bill passed
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 06:47 PM
Nov 2013

In the years he was in Congress. He said he did not like government but sure worked a long time for what he did not like.

calimary

(81,220 posts)
56. Hey, I like ANYTHING that discredits these two dingdongs.
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 01:23 PM
Nov 2013

Especially his son the Kentucky Pipsqueak, with the Brillo pad on his head. What IS with that "hair" anyway? Or is it a bowl of black squid ink spaghetti that somebody up-ended on his head? Maybe it's his brain matter - erupting to the surface through cracks in his skull like tar oozes up through cracks in the pavement near the La Brea Tar Pits?

And people actually vote for these two nutbags... What does that say about THEM???? (Never mind, we already know.)

tblue

(16,350 posts)
29. I know! But I do credit the racists who are 'out.'
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 07:06 PM
Nov 2013

At least you know exactly what you're dealing with. The Pauls and many libertarian/republicans publicly disavow racism while they work to advance racist and separatist policies. They may as well just come out and say who they are.

Creepy and disgusting. Eew. I don't like those people.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
14. I'm not surprised. His philosophy is pretty close to theirs as are many
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 06:03 PM
Nov 2013

of the Christo-fascist Tea Bagger political wing in this country.

Back in the day, Communist Party members were considered seditious and were outlawed. They weren't and they shouldn't have been, but that is what happened. Now with these fascist, racist groups, who claim to be Christians, they really are seditious. They don't really believe the government we have is the one we should have. They don't believe the laws apply to them. If that isn't sedition I don't know what is. It seems they should be outlawed.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
16. Haven't Ron Paul's ties to Neo Nazi groups been known for a while?
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 06:04 PM
Nov 2013

I mean, the guy was getting donations from Stormfront and refused to give them back.

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
20. I loved this part
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 06:14 PM
Nov 2013
In another passage, Kelso, a former Scientologist and account owner
of other German Nazi forums, wrote: “I’ll be at CPAC from Feb. 9 to Feb.
12. I’ll send back reports to you from personal meetings with Ron Paul,
newly-elected Senator Rand Paul and many others.


Isn't that special?

ZombieHorde, you should change your title to include Rand Paul as well. It would get far more attention since he's in a seat of power.

Orrex

(63,203 posts)
22. Wasn't so long ago that people were citing Ron Paul as a voice of reason
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 06:41 PM
Nov 2013

What a difference a little neo-Nazism makes.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
37. According to da' YouTube comments last year,
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 08:23 PM
Nov 2013

RP was supposedly "our only hope" and "the most honest guy in D.C."

eridani

(51,907 posts)
43. Agreeing with his antiwar position hardly means agreeing with anything else he says
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 05:12 AM
Nov 2013

Stopped clocks and all.

Orrex

(63,203 posts)
49. Agreeing is one thing
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 09:38 AM
Nov 2013

And although some people did indeed post stuff along the lines of "he's a crazy asshole, but he's right about this," the majority of posts were less specific in their praise.

Rather than finding a stopped clock and praising it for its twice daily correctness, I would prefer to find a clock that isn't stopped.

eridani

(51,907 posts)
64. You are being dishonest
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 12:11 AM
Nov 2013

90% of posts on Ron Paul said "he's a crazy asshole, but he's right about this." He's also right about government spying.

tblue37

(65,333 posts)
26. Maybe because the MSM won't push the story--but that doesn't mean that
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 06:55 PM
Nov 2013

liberal sites shouldn't make sure it becomes more visible.

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
31. No shit, and those who said Ron Paul's views "needed to be heard"...
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 07:16 PM
Nov 2013

Can suck it with the rest of the racist garbage they choose to associate with.

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
33. I Would Like To See This From A 2nd Source
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 07:40 PM
Nov 2013

In addition to this obscure source. If this pans out it is hard to see how Rand Paul can stand for re-election. The other thing is the close tie between CPAC and the neo-Nazi movement. Any connections to Karl Rove or the Koch brothers found?

CSStrowbridge

(267 posts)
34. I really hope...
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 07:46 PM
Nov 2013

I really hope that no one here is surprised. It's been clear for a while that Ron Paul is a massive racist and Rand Paul wasn't any better.

On the other hand, it would be nice if this killed their political careers so we never have to hear from them again.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
35. I remember reading some threads about that.
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 08:00 PM
Nov 2013

Ugh. God. Godfuckingdammit. No right to be involved in governing.

They want to go back to old times? We need to do some good old fashioned tarring and feathering.

 

The Traveler

(5,632 posts)
36. Posted Jun 2013 and completely ignored by press
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 08:19 PM
Nov 2013

Haven't seen anything in the news about this.

And one would think this would be a salient piece of news given all the discussion of Rand Paul's Presidential aspirations. Voters got a right and need to know about this sort of thing.

Trav

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
39. Al Sharpton mentioned this piece of news
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 08:30 PM
Nov 2013

a few times on his show, but aside from that, I haven't heard much about Ron Paul's neo-nazi ties, either. It might have been because most of the news networks and shows didn't really see him as a viable candidate, anyway, and didn't take him seriously (he was one of a few GOP candidates who never led in the 2012 primaries).

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
41. They were holding fundraisers for Paul back in 2007
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 08:39 PM
Nov 2013

From Southern Poverty Law Center, which keeps close tabs on these groups. (i.e., we don't really need Anonymous to tell us these things.)

With this group of white nationalist leaders assembled, the party is now seeking active dues-paying members and recruiting voters to register as members of the party for the 2010 California elections. Johnson plans to target a number of different groups in order to assemble the party’s base. He developed contacts with Republicans and libertarians who supported Ron Paul during the 2008 U.S. presidential election, holding a $2,000-a-plate fundraiser for Paul’s campaign in September 2007. In a July 1, 2010, Internet radio broadcast, Kelso said: “There’s a great overlap in Patriot activities and Patriot causes, and we have, we will have a big effect on this much larger movement, the Ron Paul Revolution, that has millions of people engaged … we’ll be pulling them from the right.” The A3P also has shown up at Tea Party rallies to try to fulfill this goal.

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/groups/american-freedom-party

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
57. Precisely...Daddy Ron had a newsletter with openly racist statements, and
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 02:26 PM
Nov 2013

as Rachel Maddow told us, one of Rand's chief aides was a neo-confederate who went

by the name "The Southern Avenger"....It seems his racist views became too "public"

and Rand had to get rid of him.

mattclearing

(10,091 posts)
46. Reads like wet dream fanfic.
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 08:37 AM
Nov 2013

Don't believe this just because it's crack for confirmation bias. It has to be too good to be true. Otherwise it's like winning the lottery twice or finding out John and George faked their deaths and the Beatles have a bunch of new albums ready to release.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
51. not surprised at all
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 10:52 AM
Nov 2013

Last edited Mon Nov 18, 2013, 07:35 PM - Edit history (2)

the teahadist party is just that, modern day nazis and klan. Started small, where they end up, depends on the vigilance of thinking american citizens. And that they got a foothold at all is what makes me wonder how many of those citizens there are. And with the election of a nonwhite POTUS, the hidden racists have seemed to have exploded on the scene. Once our present POTUS was elected, fairly and squarely, they took off the gloves and the hoods and don't mind being seen as what they are. A nonwhite POTUS brought all this out and thank god, now at least they can be marked, categorized and watched, closely. Couldn't do that in the 50's and 60's. Ain't technology wonderful.

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
61. We see plenty if that around where I live.
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 03:39 PM
Nov 2013

The local tea klux klan advertises their racism on line for all to see. Then they complain that the people who rightfully call them on their racism are the ones being racist.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
58. Go Anonymous!
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 02:57 PM
Nov 2013

I'm starting to love them. It's awesome we have smarter geeks on the side of light and right.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
59. Neo-Nazis supporting a white libertarian?
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 02:58 PM
Nov 2013

SHOCKING.

I AM SHOCKED.

I AM DISPLAYING A REACTION THAT OCCURS WHEN I AM SHOCKED.

TekGryphon

(430 posts)
62. A few months old?
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 05:15 PM
Nov 2013

This is from early 2012, more than a year and a half ago. I'm glad I did a little research before posting this on FB.

 

maindawg

(1,151 posts)
63. is that Bill Johnson the congressman?
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 05:31 PM
Nov 2013

I wonder at it feels like to be a kentuckian these days. To have to live in a place with so many ignorant racist fools. They had a choice a few years ago to vote for an excellent candidate but they voted for a little creepy guy who is not qualified to run a small town. A guy who lives in his own little world where he declares himself to be a doctor. He is not a doctor. He is a creep.
I will watch as he is exposed more and more every day until he is either removed from office under law or has to face an electorate armed with knowledge of his fraud.

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