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Mon Nov 18, 2013, 01:08 PM

 

Elizabeth Warren Isnít Running For President, Top Financial Backer Tells Democrats

Elizabeth Warren Isnít Running For President, Top Financial Backer Tells Democrats
Paul Egerman, a Warren gatekeeper, waves donors off the hype over the senatorís possible presidential run. ďItís not gonna happen,Ē one funder says.

By Ruby Cramer
BuzzFeed

11/18/13

Elizabeth Warrenís former national finance chair, Paul Egerman, has told several inquiring donors this month that, despite runaway speculation and a burning desire from the partyís left wing, the freshman senator will not run for president in 2016.

Egerman, close to both Warren and to the heavy-hitting liberal base of funders who helped her raise $42 million last year, has been approached by donors in the last two weeks and told them that, no, Warren is not planning to run, according to two major players in Democratic financial circles who spoke with Egerman directly.

One Democratic fundraiser said he spoke with Egerman roughly two weeks ago, after articles by Peter Beinart in the Daily Beast and Noam Scheiber in the New Republic heightened fervor amongst the progressive wing of the party over whether Warren would ever challenge Hillary Clinton, already the presumed frontrunner, from the left.

Egerman, the fundraiser said, quickly threw cold water on the theory. ďItís not gonna happen,Ē the source said.

The rest: http://www.buzzfeed.com/rubycramer/elizabeth-warren-financial-backer-tells-donors-no-chance-on?bftw=

One less "2016" thing to talk about.

2014.

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WilliamPitt Nov 2013 OP
geek tragedy Nov 2013 #1
L0oniX Nov 2013 #2
brooklynite Nov 2013 #29
L0oniX Nov 2013 #30
brooklynite Nov 2013 #36
L0oniX Nov 2013 #40
brooklynite Nov 2013 #45
cali Nov 2013 #3
Jackpine Radical Nov 2013 #32
hfojvt Nov 2013 #4
bunnies Nov 2013 #5
polichick Nov 2013 #7
bunnies Nov 2013 #9
cascadiance Nov 2013 #57
bunnies Nov 2013 #61
WilliamPitt Nov 2013 #13
Laelth Nov 2013 #18
woo me with science Nov 2013 #20
Laelth Nov 2013 #21
brooklynite Nov 2013 #31
woo me with science Nov 2013 #35
Laelth Nov 2013 #37
Jackpine Radical Nov 2013 #34
woo me with science Nov 2013 #39
Jackpine Radical Nov 2013 #42
woo me with science Nov 2013 #48
Jackpine Radical Nov 2013 #64
bunnies Nov 2013 #47
woo me with science Nov 2013 #62
Scuba Nov 2013 #56
LuvNewcastle Nov 2013 #6
Douglas Carpenter Nov 2013 #8
Laelth Nov 2013 #10
onehandle Nov 2013 #11
frazzled Nov 2013 #12
legcramp Nov 2013 #14
Laelth Nov 2013 #16
Whisp Nov 2013 #44
NCTraveler Nov 2013 #51
Whisp Nov 2013 #54
joeybee12 Nov 2013 #15
Laelth Nov 2013 #17
joeybee12 Nov 2013 #19
legcramp Nov 2013 #23
joeybee12 Nov 2013 #24
Scuba Nov 2013 #58
scheming daemons Nov 2013 #22
Laelth Nov 2013 #25
scheming daemons Nov 2013 #26
Laelth Nov 2013 #28
polichick Nov 2013 #27
MineralMan Nov 2013 #33
BelgianMadCow Nov 2013 #38
Laelth Nov 2013 #41
DrDan Nov 2013 #43
cherokeeprogressive Nov 2013 #46
Beacool Nov 2013 #49
cascadiance Nov 2013 #60
Initech Nov 2013 #50
Beacool Nov 2013 #52
Tarheel_Dem Nov 2013 #53
jazzimov Nov 2013 #55
Gothmog Nov 2013 #59
SidDithers Nov 2013 #63

Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 01:10 PM

1. Who else is saying Warren won't run? Elizabeth Warren. nt

 

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 01:13 PM

2. The 1% would have made sure she wouldn't have a chance anyway.

 

The only viable candidate will be a centrist/corporatist ...as usual.

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Response to L0oniX (Reply #2)

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 03:06 PM

29. Well, thank for making it easier for us Hillary supporters...

...I don't object to an open Primary, but if all you're going to do is complain and make excuses why your candidate (fill in the blanks) could never have run, it makes our job easier.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #29)

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 03:08 PM

30. Well ...it is good to know who your enemy is.

 

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Response to L0oniX (Reply #30)

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 03:17 PM

36. Enemies? How disappointing...

I didn't know that Democrats supporting opposing candidates in an open political process were enemies. But then, I didn't know there was a correct candidiate we all had to support.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #36)

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 03:21 PM

40. Since when are corporations and their owned politicians friends?

 

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Response to L0oniX (Reply #40)

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 03:28 PM

45. I'm thinking about the 17 million Democrats who supported Hillary in 2008...

...many of which will likely support her again.

Or has Third Way grown more that I thought it had?

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 01:14 PM

3. I've never thought she would run

 

However, she wouldn't be the first person who said no and than changed their mind.

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Response to cali (Reply #3)

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 03:10 PM

32. Yeah. I view the sticker below as "aspirational,"

as they always say in my professional ethics courses.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 01:17 PM

4. "We want Sweet. We want Sweet. We want Sweet"

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 01:21 PM

5. She'd never announce now either way.

 

Obama wasn't running this far out on '08 either.

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Response to bunnies (Reply #5)

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 01:23 PM

7. True, she wouldn't. imo she'll run only if she sees that it's necessary...

that nobody else is going to put the people ahead of corporations and the 1%.

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Response to polichick (Reply #7)

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 01:27 PM

9. *someone's* got to give us an alternative.

 

Obama sure as hell didn't do it. And Ive had just about enough of this bullshit, myself.

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Response to bunnies (Reply #9)

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 04:20 PM

57. I was already sick of the engineered choices we had in the 2008 primaries...

 

A photoshop I did then that reflects my sentiments then and still reflects them now!



Perhaps Warren doesn't have a "secret" like Edwards had, or doesn't want to be "given a secret" like he had that would make the corporatists comfortable having her run to take the progressive votes away from other candidates like Edwards did until it was time to have his candidacy "ended".

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Response to cascadiance (Reply #57)

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 05:02 PM

61. Interesting point about JRE...

 

Do you think TPTB knew about his "secret" from the beginning?

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Response to bunnies (Reply #5)

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 01:40 PM

13. But she would fundraise.

 

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Response to WilliamPitt (Reply #13)

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 01:54 PM

18. And she's doing that.

If you have any evidence that she's not fundraising, I'd like to see it.

Noam Scheiber, in his New Republic essay from last week, shows that Elizabeth Warren is already the 3rd best fundraiser in the Democratic Party--right behind Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. Looks to me like fundraising is a serious concern of hers.



-Laelth

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Response to bunnies (Reply #5)

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 01:55 PM

20. +1000000 Absolutely she could change her mind.

And whether she ends up running or not, the time to be recruiting and publicizing possible alternatives to the corporate stranglehold on our government is NOW. Warren, Sanders, Grayson, etc. Time to build momentum to reject corporatism and find candidates for the people.

Real change is never considered a serious option until people begin talking about it as a serious option. The ONLY way corporatists maintain the fiction that real change isn't possible is by keeping it out of the debate.

The DLC/Third Way will whine and complain that it's too early to talk about 2016, but their MO is always to try to get everybody to shut up until it's too late.

It's time to get the country focused on making real change happen.



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Response to woo me with science (Reply #20)

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 01:55 PM

21. +1. n/t

-Laelth

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Response to woo me with science (Reply #20)

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 03:09 PM

31. Sorry to burst your bubble...

...but it's been the people responding to the startup of pro-Hillary efforts who've been pushing the "it's only 2013 message". Nothing to do with Third Way...or the millions of liberal Democrats who'll be supporting Hillary as well.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #31)

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 03:14 PM

35. I'm glad to hear YOU support posts about 2016! nt

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #31)

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 03:19 PM

37. I am with woo on this.

I sincerely appreciate this post from you.



-Laelth

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Response to woo me with science (Reply #20)

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 03:13 PM

34. Sanders is my ideal candidate--provided

you can figure out a way to take about 15 years off him.

I say this as a 69 year-old, professionally active geezer who couldn't imagine pulling together what it would take to run for national office for the first time at age 75.

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Response to Jackpine Radical (Reply #34)

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 03:20 PM

39. I love Bernie. I would love to see Grayson talking about a run, too.

I love that we are seeing excited talk about multiple possibilities. And I am hoping that more names appear as the country starts discussing these candidates and the REAL differences between what we have now and what could be possible with a real representative of the 99 percent in office. We have been fed the lie too long that corporate Democrats are doing the best they can for us, and that MAJOR POLICY CHANGE FOR THE 99 PERCENT is not possible. It's all about shedding the helplessness in the country and waking America to the fact that we don't have to accept what they have been feeding us.

The goal of the "shut up" meme is to make the corporate candidate, again, a foregone conclusion. If we start now, we can blow that out of the water.

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Response to woo me with science (Reply #39)

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 03:22 PM

42. As long as we're dreaming, why not

dig Russ Feingold out of whatever part of Africa he's hiding in & draft him?

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Response to Jackpine Radical (Reply #42)

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 03:34 PM

48. I guess I"m not sure what your message is here.

You seem to be mocking the desire to and the process of finding and promoting a better candidate, which surprises me.

Bernie is too old, so we give up? Thinking about other options is "dreaming"?

Do you really think Hillary, who is DLC to the core and has been instrumental in the war machine *and* the TPP, is the best Democrats can do?

History shows that change comes from the people, and it can happen rapidly once the people consider ideas to be viable. The country overwhelmingly supports policies that these candidates, and hopefully others, support. Austerity slows economies and feeds the one percent at the expense of the rest of us. Americans overwhelmingly oppose it. Americans across party lines favor protecting the social safety nets. Americans across party lines are against the surveillance state.

In all sincerity, why the sarcasm? Or am I misreading you?

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Response to woo me with science (Reply #48)

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 07:02 PM

64. I'm certainly not mocking the desire for a populist progressive.

Bernie's too old to be a serious candidate.

I'd favor any credible candidate who stands to the left of the DLC. I think Liz is potentially a helluva good choice, and would rate her potential for winning above that of Grayson. There's a lot of time for things to happen between now & 2016.

I also happen to have a great fondness for Russ. I think he'd be a great President, but don't think he'd run, and he probably wouldn't win if he did. He just doesn't have that fabled fire in the belly. I guess the point of my post, if it had one (I popped it out without giving it a lot of thought) is that in some ideal world, decent, unassuming, thoughtful and profoundly humane guys like Russ would have a shot at it.

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Response to woo me with science (Reply #20)

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 03:31 PM

47. Yep. Time for the kind of President I *thought* Obama was going to be.

 

but even further to the left. We cant wait any longer. 8 more years of a pro-corporation President and the 1% will be snacking on us for lunch. Its friggin ridiculous.

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Response to bunnies (Reply #47)

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 06:36 PM

62. +1000000 You've got that right.

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Response to woo me with science (Reply #20)

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 04:19 PM

56. + another

 

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 01:22 PM

6. I never thought she would.

All the talk isn't rooted in reality, but it's harmless talk. I'll support her if she changes her mind, but I really don't think she's going to unless something happens that makes her feel like no one else could do as good a job as she could.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 01:25 PM

8. so, I guess it is all up to Bernie

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 01:27 PM

10. She can change her mind.

I do appreciate your bringing this to our attention, but I sincerely hope that the liberals in this party can convince Elizabeth Warren to change her mind and run for President in 2016.

To those who would like to encourage her to run, contact information can be found here. Write to her or call her. You can make a difference!

You can add a Warren 2016 banner to your DU sig. line here.

You can join the Elizabeth Warren Group here.



-Laelth

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 01:29 PM

11. She signed the letter encouraging Hillary to run. Why are we talking about this? nt

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 01:31 PM

12. Indeed, now she can be the

mythical perfect standard against which to measure any real candidate. In other words, by not running she can become the candidate of whom it is said here, "if she had run she'd have done x, y, or z; would not have said a, b, or c; would have beaten Tom or Dick."

It's a perfect position to be in. If only people would say of me, "If she'd become a brain surgeon she'd have a perfect record of curing cancer patients!"

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 01:44 PM

14. Sen. Barack Obama Isnít Running For President...

 

(Videotape, January 22, 2006):
MR. RUSSERT: When we talked back in November of Ď04, after your election, I said, ďThereís been enormous speculation about your political future. Will you serve your full six-year term as a United States senator from Illinois?Ē Obama: ďAbsolutely.Ē
SEN. OBAMA: I will serve out my full six-year term. You know, Tim, if you get asked enough, sooner or later you get weary and you start looking for new ways of saying things, but my thinking has not changed.
MR. RUSSERT: But, butóso you will not run for president or vice president in 2008?
SEN. OBAMA: I will not.

(End videotape)
MR. RUSSERT: You will not.
SEN. OBAMA: Well, theóthat was how I was thinking at that time. And, and, you know, I donít want to be coy about this, given the responses that Iíve been getting over the last several months, I have thought about the possibility. But I have not thought itóabout it with the seriousness and depth that I think is required. My main focus right now is in the Ď06 and making sure that we retake the Congress. After ohóafter November 7, Iíll sit down and, and consider, and if at some point, I change my mind, I will make a public announcement and everybody will be able to go at me.
MR. RUSSERT: But itís fair to say youíre thinking about running for president in 2008?
SEN. OBAMA: Itís fair, yes.


http://www.nbcnews.com/id/15304689/#.UopQ58SURtY

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Response to legcramp (Reply #14)

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 01:49 PM

16. +1. n/t

-Laelth

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Response to legcramp (Reply #14)

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 03:28 PM

44. hahahahahahaha!!

 

People are shitting their pants that Warren may actually run. It's great to see even such a challenge as this and all the handwringing in Camp Secret Clinton Letter Rumor.

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Response to Whisp (Reply #44)

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 03:43 PM

51. Who is shitting their pants?

 

It looks like just about every single person on this board would like for her to throw her hat in the ring. Are you talking about your inner circle of friends?

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #51)

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 03:54 PM

54. The Circle is Wide

 

and a lot of those are not my 'friends', in fact a lot are more like frenemies when it comes to Mrs. Clinton.
I don't have anyone on ignore so I see all opinions on this, maybe your ignore list is skewing what you see.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 01:49 PM

15. If she's smart, and I think she is, she's got her sights set on 2020...

 

Makes more sense to build her reputation in the next few years...we all know her, but I don't know how much name recognition she has nation-wide.

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Response to joeybee12 (Reply #15)

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 01:51 PM

17. She's already the 3rd best fundraiser in the Democratic Party.

In that regard, she's right behind Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. Elizabeth Warren is only two years younger than Hillary. If she's ever going to run for President, it needs to be in 2016, imo.



-Laelth

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Response to Laelth (Reply #17)

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 01:54 PM

19. Really, I thought early 50's...

 

2016 is going to be nasty...the Repukes will nominate the NJ Bully or some Braindead Teabagger...Elizabteh might just not want to deal with such slime.

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Response to joeybee12 (Reply #15)

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 02:39 PM

23. So you expect she would primary a sitting Democratic President then?

 

Or are you conceding 2016 to the repukes?

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Response to legcramp (Reply #23)

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 02:42 PM

24. I think she realizes it would be tough in 2016 and wait and see who wins in 2016

 

If it's a Dem, I don't think she'd challenge, if it's a Repuke and phucks things up like they always do, she'll jump in.

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Response to joeybee12 (Reply #15)

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 04:22 PM

58. So you're thinking whoever wins in 2016 will be a one-term President?

 

Or a Republican?

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 02:38 PM

22. Doesn't matter.. don't you see, you can just "recruit" her to run with MAGIC!

 


Doesn't matter if she has no desire to run, the Warren-2016 brigade says.... when she sees how many of us are out here, she can't help but change her mind!


Elizabeth Warren has said she isn't running. She has said she would NEVER run against Hillary for the nomination, and even signed a petition asking Hillary to run.


Doesn't matter. The brigade will sprinkle fairy dust on her in her sleep to make her change her mind.

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Response to scheming daemons (Reply #22)

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 02:56 PM

25. LOL. Your local fairy-dust sprinkler has arrived.

Why not help us instead of being ... well ... negative?

Help us to encourage Elizabeth Warren to run for President in 2016.

Contact information can be found here. Write to her or call her. You can make a difference!

You can add a Warren 2016 banner to your DU sig. line here.

You can join the Elizabeth Warren Group here.

-Laelth

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Response to Laelth (Reply #25)

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 03:01 PM

26. I am going to wait until all the candidates that WANT to run announce....

 

....and then I'll pick one to support through the primaries.

And then when the primaries are over, I'll vote in the general for whichever candidate wins the primaries.



It is pointless and stupid to speculate on a race in which ZERO candidates have declared their candidacy.


By spring of 2015, there will be at least a half dozens Democrats who have thrown their hats into the ring. People who actually *WANT* to be President.


When that time comes, I'll pick one.


Sprinkling fairy dust on your dream candidate right now is just setting yourself for disappointment when they do what they have been telling you all along.... not run.

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Response to scheming daemons (Reply #26)

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 03:05 PM

28. I'll deal with that disappointment when it comes.

I can handle it. You, on the other hand, might consider that it helps us little for some people to rain on the parade of those liberals who have some hope for the future.

just a thought ...

-Laelth

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 03:03 PM

27. She's not running...

yet.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 03:11 PM

33. GOTV 2014!

Deal with 2016 after the election in 2014. This is so premature, and people's hopes get all built up for something that isn't going to happen. That only leads to disappointment.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 03:20 PM

38. Interesting info, Will. But does that also mean you advocate not trying to find alternatives

for a Hillary run? Because that's all my sig line means: I can't believe a corporate friendly DLCer is the best you can do.

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Response to BelgianMadCow (Reply #38)

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 03:22 PM

41. I offer only one correction.

I don't think Hillary Clinton is the best that WE can do. Otherwise, the mad cow has my agreement and support.



-Laelth

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 03:26 PM

43. how coincidental . . . that is exactly what she said

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 03:29 PM

46. I wish she would.

 

It's high time we had a Native American President.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 03:37 PM

49. Oh, this is going to be good.



Feel free to use as needed.





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Response to Beacool (Reply #49)

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 04:27 PM

60. Why don't you offer us a case of these to get rid of the turds of both parties in DC now! n/t

 

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 03:40 PM

50. Wall St.'s worst nightmare - Warren as attorney general.

Can you imagine a DOJ full of attorneys willing to prosecute the real billionaire white collar criminals instead of petty drug offenders?

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Response to Initech (Reply #50)

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 03:52 PM

52. Wouldn't Treasury Secretary or Chairman of the Federal Reserve be more within her scope?

I think that she could kick butt in either post.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 03:53 PM

53. If we lose the Senate in 2014, what the hell does it matter? Nice to know DU's priorities are....

in place.

"despite runaway speculation and a burning desire from the partyís left wing"


Somebody should have that printed on a tee shirt, especially the "runaway speculation"; pick any subject.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 04:14 PM

55. 2014! GOTV! K&R.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 04:23 PM

59. For me the 2014 races come first

I personally like Senator Warren but I really do not want to take my eye off the 2014 races. Senator Davis is running against a GOP candidate who is well funded but is a mean spirited person without a sense of humor. I really want Senator Davis to win or to do well enough so that the GOP will no longer take Texas for granted.

I was involved in some county party meetings in March and April of this year where some county party leaders took the position that the Democrats in Texas needed to wait until 2016 when Hillary is on the ticket. I strongly objected to this position. Senator Davis' filibuster and candidacy is changing things in Texas. I have not seen this level of excitement in Texas. Right now, I am seeing more people show up at events than in 2008. In 2012 and 2010, we did not field a full slate of candidates in my county and right now we are going to have a pretty full slate. These people are running in 2014 because they see some hope for Texas.

Senator Davis is focusing on Hispanics and single white women voters. These two groups may support either Hillary Clinton or Senator Warren. In 2008, I supported President Obama and for a while we had very disruptive race between the Clinton forces and the Obama supporters. However, in 2008, I saw that the core of Senator Clinton's support in the Democratic party lied with women (especially single white women) and Hispanics. I would expect that these two groups would be supporting Hillary Clinton in 2016 but it is very possible that these groups would also support Senator Warren.

I hate to be blunt but as a Texan who has been voting for Democrats since 1976, I would love to see my state turn blue. Right now, Senator Wendy Davis is person leading that charge. After the 2014 races, I will see who else would advance this cause and look at all candidates who then running.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 06:39 PM

63. I want that Gary Hart poster to come back...

that guy was a riot.

Sid

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