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William769

(55,145 posts)
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 06:25 PM Nov 2013

Oklahoma Drops National Guard Benefits For All Couples To Avoid Serving Same-Sex Couples

Oklahoma Gov. Mary Fallin (R) announced earlier this month that state-owned National Guard facilities will no longer allow any married couples to apply for spousal benefits, regardless of whether they are same-sex or different-sex. The Supreme Court’s decision overturning the Defense of Marriage Act means that servicemembers with same-sex spouses are now eligible for federal benefits. Fallin’s unusual tactic is designed to avoid having to recognize those couples, which she asserts would violate Oklahoma’s constitutional amendment limiting marriage to one man and one woman:


FALLIN: Oklahoma law is clear. The state of Oklahoma does not recognize same-sex marriages, nor does it confer marriage benefits to same-sex couples. The decision reached today allows the National Guard to obey Oklahoma law without violating federal rules or policies. It protects the integrity of our state constitution and sends a message to the federal government that they cannot simply ignore our laws or the will of the people.

This decision directly contradicts an order from Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel ordering states to provide same-sex couples with the federal benefits they deserve under the law. All married couples will now have to travel to one of the five federal facilities in Oklahoma to apply for benefits. Incidentally, the state’s facilities were built almost entirely with federal funds and 90 percent of the Oklahoma Military Department — which includes the National Guard — is funded by the federal government.

Fallin’s tactic mirrors other attempts to punish an entire group to avoid serving the gay community. When marriage equality came to the District of Columbia, Catholic Charities decided to stop offering partner benefits to all employees to avoid having to provide them to any employee’s same-sex spouse. In various states, Catholic Charities has also abandoned all adoption services to avoid having to provide them to same-sex couples.

http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2013/11/19/2970531/oklahoma-national-guard/

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Oklahoma Drops National Guard Benefits For All Couples To Avoid Serving Same-Sex Couples (Original Post) William769 Nov 2013 OP
these people are fucking horrible PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #1
Yes indeed. William769 Nov 2013 #2
What a spiteful act. Pathetic. Scuba Nov 2013 #3
That's the word--spite. TwilightGardener Nov 2013 #15
I'm reminded of those pieces of shit in Virginia Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #16
Wow, I didn't know that! Shameful piece of history. Scuba Nov 2013 #17
My father mercifully grew up just two counties away in Albemarle... Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #19
Cool. Tell him 'thanks' on behalf of us veterans. Scuba Nov 2013 #28
Really? Laelth Nov 2013 #4
One bigot at a time. William769 Nov 2013 #5
You can't work with that CanonRay Nov 2013 #13
Way to support the troops, KamaAina Nov 2013 #6
Hatred must come first MattBaggins Nov 2013 #7
You do know what I'm thnking about Fallin, don't you? joeybee12 Nov 2013 #8
Ooooklahoma, Where The Derp Comes Derping Down The Brain hatrack Nov 2013 #9
O-klahoma, KamaAina Nov 2013 #10
No, really CanonRay Nov 2013 #14
A dump is too good for them NickB79 Nov 2013 #20
You've got to be full of all kinds of hate gollygee Nov 2013 #11
Hate is hate--just manifested in different horrible ways riversedge Nov 2013 #12
Fallin is Palin Junior Joey Liberal Nov 2013 #18
The party of family values mythology Nov 2013 #21
Hate filled morons n/t etherealtruth Nov 2013 #22
Repukes are about tearing people down. CFLDem Nov 2013 #23
Their face is going to miss that nose. TeamPooka Nov 2013 #24
That's a pretty shitty way to treat the troops. MH1 Nov 2013 #25
I sense blowback.. Cha Nov 2013 #26
What horrible people! hrmjustin Nov 2013 #27
Cut off all Federal Funds immediately... Historic NY Nov 2013 #29
It likely takes a lot to turn Oklahoma military folks blue. noamnety Nov 2013 #30

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
16. I'm reminded of those pieces of shit in Virginia
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 07:46 PM
Nov 2013

who CLOSED the schools for FIVE years instead of integrate(!)

Of course the county set up some "private" schools so the white kids could still get educated...

http://www.vahistorical.org/collections-and-resources/virginia-history-explorer/civil-rights-movement-virginia/closing-prince

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
17. Wow, I didn't know that! Shameful piece of history.
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 07:50 PM
Nov 2013

Thanks for making the vast universe of my ignorance just a tad smaller.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
19. My father mercifully grew up just two counties away in Albemarle...
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 07:58 PM
Nov 2013

And mercifully for the Commonwealth, he went on to serve as a doctor in VA for 36 years...

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
4. Really?
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 06:30 PM
Nov 2013

Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face. These folks are nuts, but this should serve as a warning to us.

It's clear they're willing to destroy America in order to save it from ... heaven forbid! ... Democrats.

How do we work with that?



-Laelth

hatrack

(59,583 posts)
9. Ooooklahoma, Where The Derp Comes Derping Down The Brain
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 07:06 PM
Nov 2013

And the seething hate
It just can't wait
To explode and splatter us again!

Oklahoma,
Where there's Inhofe, Coburn and now this!
Where I'll never shop
Or ever stop
Even if I have to take a piss.

Joey Liberal

(5,526 posts)
18. Fallin is Palin Junior
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 07:50 PM
Nov 2013

She's an evil person. This will hurt many guard members, but she doesn't care..............

 

CFLDem

(2,083 posts)
23. Repukes are about tearing people down.
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 08:49 PM
Nov 2013

We are about building people up. I wonder which side Jesus would prefer?

Red state Morons

MH1

(17,600 posts)
25. That's a pretty shitty way to treat the troops.
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 08:53 PM
Nov 2013

Mary Failing and the scumbag politicos who prop her up are a complete waste of carbon.

 

noamnety

(20,234 posts)
30. It likely takes a lot to turn Oklahoma military folks blue.
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 10:00 PM
Nov 2013

Kudos to them for finding a strategy to make that happen.

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