Wed Nov 20, 2013, 07:28 PM
Gothmog (91,262 posts)
Was George Zimmerman’s 911 Call a Clever Piece of Propaganda?
It was clear in the Zimmerman trial that Zimmerman knows something about the law and how to take advantage of the law. I tend to agree with this articles conclusion that Zimmerman's latest 911 call was a way to get his story out in a fashion where he would not be subject to cross examination http://www.slate.com/blogs/crime/2013/11/20/george_zimmerman_samantha_scheibe_was_the_trayvon_martin_shooter_s_911_call.html?wpisrc=burger_bar
The Associated Press published a thought-provoking story Tuesday suggesting that Zimmerman and Scheibe called 911 knowing that the recordings of their calls were admissible in court, and would likely be made public. As such, it’s not unreasonable to think that both calls may have been intended as pre-emptive public relations efforts in addition to requests for police assistance. According to the AP, this sort of strategic 911 call “spinning” is a common tactic among savvy defendants and accusers: Zimmerman avoided taking the stand in his first trial and there is no way that a good lawyer would let Zimmerman ever take the stand
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Gothmog | Nov 2013 | OP |
arcane1 | Nov 2013 | #1 | |
PDJane | Nov 2013 | #2 | |
avebury | Nov 2013 | #3 | |
surrealAmerican | Nov 2013 | #4 | |
Blue_Tires | Nov 2013 | #5 | |
Gothmog | Nov 2013 | #7 | |
Blue_Tires | Nov 2013 | #9 | |
Gothmog | Nov 2013 | #6 | |
pokerfan | Nov 2013 | #8 | |
JI7 | Nov 2013 | #10 |
Response to Gothmog (Original post)
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 07:30 PM
arcane1 (38,613 posts)
1. It's cheaper than producing a cartoon video of the events n/t
Response to Gothmog (Original post)
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 07:33 PM
PDJane (10,103 posts)
2. Yes. Typical manipulation from an abusive man.
Response to Gothmog (Original post)
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 07:38 PM
avebury (10,548 posts)
3. There is absolutely no doubt that Zimmerman is trying
to game the system. Unless he get some idiots or uber gun nuts on the jury I think that there is a good chance that he might not get away with it this time. A clear pattern of behavior has been established and I would hope that some of his other incidents will be allowed in a trial.
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Response to Gothmog (Original post)
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 07:42 PM
surrealAmerican (11,031 posts)
4. not half as clever as he thinks it is.
He only called after the police were outside the door. That doesn't make it look like he needed their help.
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Response to Gothmog (Original post)
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 07:47 PM
Blue_Tires (55,415 posts)
5. I'm amused at how many people are just now discovering
Zimmerman's creative use of 911 recordings as the foundation of a pre-emptive legal defense...It was *clearly* obvious on the night of the Martin shooting; I'd only mentioned the fact a thousand times since then....
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Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #5)
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 07:51 PM
Gothmog (91,262 posts)
7. I am a transactional lawyer and so did not focus on this aspect
It is clear that this is now an established tactic and Zimmerman knew what he was doing. http://www.nola.com/news/index.ssf/2013/11/george_zimmermans_recent_dispu.html
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Response to Gothmog (Reply #7)
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 07:57 PM
Blue_Tires (55,415 posts)
9. It was obvious
given the amount of pure bullshit Zimmerman put in his call while tailing Martin...
With no possible way to verify it, Zimmerman said on the call that Martin was likely about to commit a crime, possibly armed, possibly on drugs, and probably related to a string of burglaries in the neighborhood (which was the biggest laugher since no burglar would ever strike at 7 p.m. on Sunday evening)... |
Response to Gothmog (Original post)
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 07:48 PM
Gothmog (91,262 posts)
6. This is from the AP Article on 911 Call Spinning
As a lawyer, I find the rationale for admitting these tapes to be interesting http://www.nola.com/news/index.ssf/2013/11/george_zimmermans_recent_dispu.html
In 2006, the U.S. Supreme Court determined that the use of some 911 calls as evidence did not violate a defendant's Sixth Amendment right to confront and cross-examine his accuser. These "excited utterance" exceptions to the rules involving hearsay are especially crucial in domestic violence cases, in which the victim might be reluctant or even unable to testify, says Murphy. |
Response to Gothmog (Original post)
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 07:54 PM
pokerfan (27,677 posts)
8. "He knows how to play the game."
according to both the wife and girlfriend.
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Response to Gothmog (Original post)
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 09:17 PM
JI7 (82,675 posts)
10. Clever ? i guess to dumbasses and racists like on that jury that let him off, but it's obvious
what he was trying to do there to me.
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