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Shankapotomus

(4,840 posts)
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 11:25 AM Nov 2013

Did Faux News just break the law?

This morning Faux "News" is pushing a recently "obtained" email chain purporting to suggest the admin was concerned the ACA website would have technical difficulties after launching. As I was going through the email chain looking for the suspect exchange (which will turn out to be BS since this would be a question that would come up for any high profile website before launch), I noticed this:



So my question is, given the Murdoch empire's past practices of "obtaining" news,

1. How did Faux "obtain" these emails?

and

2. Did they break the law in disseminating these emails on their website when it is posted that such activity is "strictly prohibited?"

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Did Faux News just break the law? (Original Post) Shankapotomus Nov 2013 OP
I've got something similar on every email I send snooper2 Nov 2013 #1
It has to be there for a legal reason, no? Shankapotomus Nov 2013 #3
Yeah, if I'm communicating with a vendor just a reminder for them snooper2 Nov 2013 #5
Seriously, even your personal emails to LOLCATS? Rex Nov 2013 #4
Yep! You know you can copy them right off the DU smilies page to an email that is in HTML snooper2 Nov 2013 #6
That is funny. Rex Nov 2013 #8
Unless they have a source at the NSA ... Myrina Nov 2013 #2
Murdoch is immune from the law only his employees have occasional questions. gordianot Nov 2013 #7
There are two issues here. former9thward Nov 2013 #9
No PowerToThePeople Nov 2013 #10
A notice in a email is not legally binding. gerogie1 Nov 2013 #11
But if I register a copyright Shankapotomus Nov 2013 #14
Pure CYA. Laelth Nov 2013 #12
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snooper2

(30,151 posts)
5. Yeah, if I'm communicating with a vendor just a reminder for them
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 11:31 AM
Nov 2013

not to tell what I'm involved in to any competitors that use them as well...

just standard corporate blah blah...

The real meat is in NDA that you have signed

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
4. Seriously, even your personal emails to LOLCATS?
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 11:30 AM
Nov 2013

I only throw that disclaimer on an email if I want to scare someone.

gordianot

(15,237 posts)
7. Murdoch is immune from the law only his employees have occasional questions.
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 11:34 AM
Nov 2013

From time to time a slighted politician makes some noise most often jealous that the Fox empire is not pumping them up with either positive or negative publicity.

former9thward

(31,973 posts)
9. There are two issues here.
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 11:40 AM
Nov 2013

1) When you put a disclaimer on an email (or anything else) you are not creating law. Only government can do that. So when someone "prohibits" something from being disseminated, it has no meaning. They have no authority to do that. It is just a wish on their part.

2) If Fox got the email from the person the email was sent to then even the meaningless disclaimer does not apply. They can give the email to anyone. Which is why you should be careful who you send confidential emails.

 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
10. No
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 11:42 AM
Nov 2013

at best it could be copyright or trademark infringement. There is no legally binding terms in the email adder.

 

gerogie1

(15 posts)
11. A notice in a email is not legally binding.
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 11:51 AM
Nov 2013

Unless you agree to it. The only thing they could do is try to claim copyright.

For example, They could put a statement like this at the end of the email.

"Any one not authorized to read this email then reads it must pay the originator $10,000"


They could never collect on such a notice in a email.

These notices are just for the gullible to think they can't share what is in a email.

Shankapotomus

(4,840 posts)
14. But if I register a copyright
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 12:03 PM
Nov 2013

Doesn't it help my case in a court of law if someone steals, copies and distributes my documents?

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
12. Pure CYA.
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 11:52 AM
Nov 2013

Such disclaimers are merely an attempt by the sender to limit his or her liability. Such disclaimers carry no legal force except that they might protect the original sender from liability for disclosing privileged or confidential data.

-Laelth

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