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madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 03:12 PM Nov 2013

WP Tea party has roots in the Dallas of 1963. Note hatred of Kennedy by fringe groups.

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This is an interesting essay in today's Washington Post. It compares the political atmosphere in 1963 Dallas to today's.

The author:

Bill Minutaglio is a University of Texas journalism professor and the author of “First Son: George W. Bush and the Bush Family Dynasty.” He and Steven L. Davis are the authors of “Dallas 1963” (2013, Twelve Books), from which this article is adapted.

Essay. Tea party has roots in the Dallas of 1963

To find the very roots of the tea party of 2013, just go back to downtown Dallas in 1963, back to the months and weeks leading to the Kennedy assassination. It was where and when a deeply angry political polarization, driven by a band of zealots, burst wide open in America.

It was fueled then, as now, by billionaires opposed to federal oversight, rabid media, Bible-thumping preachers and extremist lawmakers who had moved far from their political peers. In 1963, that strident minority hijacked the civic dialogue and brewed the boiling, toxic environment waiting for Kennedy the day he died.

...Not far away in downtown Dallas, oil billionaire H.L. Hunt was pouring millions into a ceaseless anti-Kennedy radio campaign; it was the dawn of extremist radio in the nation. Hunt’s program, “Life Line,” reached 10 million listeners a day with its scorching attacks against “the mistaken,” the term Hunt’s announcers used to describe the president’s supporters.

When Kennedy proposed Medicare to provide health care for the elderly, Hunt’s shows warned that government death panels would follow: “a package which would literally make the president of the United States a medical czar with potential life-or-death power over every man, woman and child in the country.”


Dallas Morning News publisher Ted Dealey particularly hated Kennedy. Ironically Dealey Plaza is having a special memorial for JFK tomorrow.

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WP Tea party has roots in the Dallas of 1963. Note hatred of Kennedy by fringe groups. (Original Post) madfloridian Nov 2013 OP
More about Dealey and the Dallas Morning News back then. madfloridian Nov 2013 #1
They had a problem with a Catholic President FreakinDJ Nov 2013 #2
I know the Southern Baptists here had a big problem with it. madfloridian Nov 2013 #3
k/r Dawson Leery Nov 2013 #4
...... madfloridian Nov 2013 #8
There is nothing new under the sun.... Wounded Bear Nov 2013 #5
People tend not to question in case they are called "conspiracy theorists". madfloridian Nov 2013 #7
my thoughts exactly gopiscrap Nov 2013 #6
John Birch Society dmr Nov 2013 #9
Compare the hatred of our presidents, then and now. It's truly scary. madfloridian Nov 2013 #10
Wiki on the John Birch Society pampango Nov 2013 #11
The right-wing hate machine has been running full tilt during my entire life-time and I'm indepat Nov 2013 #12
I started noticing the hate talk in our area when Bush campaigned in 2000. madfloridian Nov 2013 #13
Kick for pertinence to today.... madfloridian Nov 2013 #14
They felt more open to saying things like "Vote Right - Vote White" back then. Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #15
Now they use vote suppression tactics. madfloridian Nov 2013 #16

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
1. More about Dealey and the Dallas Morning News back then.
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 03:23 PM
Nov 2013

From the WP link:

Dallas Morning News publisher Ted Dealey had a loathing that became particularly deeply personal. At a social luncheon for Texas news executives in the State Dining Room of the White House, Dealey berated Kennedy to his face: “We need a man on horseback to lead this nation — and many people in Texas and the Southwest think that you are riding Caroline’s tricycle.”

Back in Dallas, Dealey ordered his reporters to investigate whether Kennedy had been married to another woman and whether the Kennedy dynasty had somehow erased evidence of that marriage.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
3. I know the Southern Baptists here had a big problem with it.
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 03:40 PM
Nov 2013

Don't know about other groups. I voted for him in spite of their vitriol. So did my SBC parents.

Wounded Bear

(58,626 posts)
5. There is nothing new under the sun....
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 03:44 PM
Nov 2013

Sorry for the Bible quote, but it is apropos IMHO. All these things have been bubbling under the surface for decades in this country.

The Kennedy assassination has affected the tone of American politics til this day. It has only recently been more out in the open.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
7. People tend not to question in case they are called "conspiracy theorists".
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 04:46 PM
Nov 2013

That's a good way to shut up any speculation.

dmr

(28,347 posts)
9. John Birch Society
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 05:40 PM
Nov 2013

I read this article from the Dallas News the other day, and it chilled my bones. Read how Adlai Stevenson was attacked about a month before the assassination by these rabid Birchers.

It's a very interesting and informative article, and as far as I know, the Dallas News is a mainstream newspaper; so it's not as if it's CT.

For me, I'm not so much interested in Oswald, or the magic bullet, or whatever - I want to know why all these years I never heard/knew about the Bircher politics down there, and how rabid they were toward President Kennedy.

And now today, we have the tea party who, whether the followers know it or not, are really the Birchers - a la Koch Brothers.

Edited to complete my thought process.




madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
10. Compare the hatred of our presidents, then and now. It's truly scary.
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 06:09 PM
Nov 2013

From your article:

The reality was more complicated. Most people, here as elsewhere, were more interested in orbiting astronauts, James Bond movies and Elvis than they were in attending meetings of the ultra-conservative John Birch Society.

But complexity surrendered to the image when President John F. Kennedy was assassinated in Dealey Plaza on Nov. 22, 1963. Dallas became known to the world as the city of hate, the city that killed Kennedy

...A gaggle of disagreeable Kennedy detractors, mostly well-dressed women, confronted the Johnsons upon their arrival at the Adolphus Hotel. They surrounded the startled couple on the street, screaming and spitting at them.

The greeting party had been organized by U.S. Rep. Bruce Alger, an archconservative Dallas Republican and a supporter of Kennedy’s election opponent, Richard Nixon. As the Johnsons were accosted, Alger stood nearby holding a sign that said, “LBJ Sold Out to Yankee Socialists.”


You know, I was not aware things were that bad there. It was not something covered by the media back then, and we did not have the internet for our news.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
11. Wiki on the John Birch Society
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 06:11 PM
Nov 2013

The society opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964, claiming it violated the Tenth Amendment to the United States Constitution and overstepped individual states' rights to enact laws regarding civil rights. The society opposes "one world government", and it has an immigration reduction view on immigration reform. It opposes the United Nations, the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), the Central America Free Trade Agreement (CAFTA), the Free Trade Area of the Americas (FTAA), and other free trade agreements. They argue the U.S. Constitution has been devalued in favor of political and economic globalization, and that this alleged trend is not accidental. It cited the existence of the former Security and Prosperity Partnership as evidence of a push towards a North American Union.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Birch_Society

indepat

(20,899 posts)
12. The right-wing hate machine has been running full tilt during my entire life-time and I'm
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 07:15 PM
Nov 2013

old enough to remember Pearl Harbor vividly: it has been an ugly cancer on our society that has metastasized wildly.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
13. I started noticing the hate talk in our area when Bush campaigned in 2000.
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 07:31 PM
Nov 2013

Either it was not that bad here before, or I was too clueless to notice. I don't think I was that clueless, I think it just became more overt and loud.

Bolo Boffin

(23,796 posts)
15. They felt more open to saying things like "Vote Right - Vote White" back then.
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 10:38 PM
Nov 2013

Today they have to be more obscure.

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