I need help with this ACA story.

[Ilsa]

Someone claimed that a 75+ year old lady they know was supposed to get cancer treatment at the Mayo Clinic but was told it was impossible under ACA due to her age. They said they'd lose funding if her husband paid for it privately.

It sounds like a BS story to me, but since this person says she knows them, I'm not in a position to call her a liar.

Are people really just making this shit up?

[XRubicon]

1. They said they would lose funding if they paid privately????

Did you laugh in their face?

[Ilsa]

11. I'm trying to be polite to her. I'm not sure

if she really believes this crap because she's been brainwashed or what. That part of the story made zero sense. Anyway, I countered with the links to two sites debunking those lies.

[XRubicon]

13. You should tell her to leave out the part about

"They said they'd lose funding if her husband paid for it privately." Next time she wants to repeat an e-mail forward story. You know, to make it sound believable.

Because that is so absurd I would have laughed in her face.

Not sure if you figured this out yet, but she is not your friend.

[Ilsa]

14. "friend" is more like

"acquaintance". We post on another forum where we have something in common (like breathing).

I lost a friend to Mitt RMoney last year. She slowly turned into a teabagger, upset about the 47% "taking" money, and she was drawing a military retirement check as part of the 47%! She couldn't see past her own hypocrisy.

[Dyedinthewoolliberal]

2. In a word,

Hogwash. That is all.

[uppityperson]

3. Here you go, info on Medicare and the ACA.

http://www.medicare.gov/about-us/affordable-care-act/affordable-care-act.html

The Affordable Care Act & Medicare
Top 5 things to know about the Affordable Care Act (ACA) if you have Medicare:


1. Your Medicare coverage is protected.
Medicare isn’t part of the Health Insurance Marketplace established by ACA, so you don't have to replace your Medicare coverage with Marketplace coverage. No matter how you get Medicare, whether through Original Medicare or a Medicare Advantage Plan, you’ll still have the same benefits and security you have now.

You don’t need to do anything with the Marketplace during Open Enrollment.

2. You get more preventive services, for less. Medicare now covers certain preventive services, like mammograms or colonoscopies, without charging you for the Part B coinsurance or deductible. You also can get a free yearly "Wellness" visit.

3. You can save money on brand-name drugs. If you’re in the donut hole, you'll also get a 50% discount when buying Part D-covered brand-name prescription drugs. The discount is applied automatically at the counter of your pharmacy—you don’t have to do anything to get it. The donut hole will be closed completely by 2020.

4. Your doctor gets more support. With new initiatives to support care coordination, your doctor may get additional resources to make sure that your treatments are consistent.

5. The ACA ensures the protection of Medicare for years to come. The life of the Medicare Trust fund will be extended to at least 2029—a 12-year extension due to reductions in waste, fraud and abuse, and Medicare costs, which will provide you with future savings on your premiums and coinsurance.

[kimbutgar]

4. I heard the same story from a right winger in Arizona in February

The aunt was 81 and needed a pacemaker but because of the ACA she were denied and died a short time later. I doubted this story and it was probably because her doctor didn't think she would survive the operation.

[Ilsa]

12. And that, fortunately, is medical ethics kicking in.

It is unethical to expend extreme resources on a situation where recovery is virtually impossible, and will only worsen someone's remaining quality of life.

[Thinkingabout]

5. First, treatments under ACA for 75 year olds has not begun, she is probably on Medicare.

I was defriended in October when this story came out on Facebook, the information was in HR 3200 and this bill was not passed. The actual bill was HR 4872, the RW bunch was passing this around. I corrected their information and it was too much for them to handle, ergo, I'm defriended, I day good riddance to their lying crap.

[Ilsa]

10. Yes, I used the links from Warren's post below to

help counter the ridiculous "death panels" crap.

[Warren Stupidity]

6. that took me five minutes to dismiss this friend of a friend rw bullshit.

As for the cancer-related statement, the email cites page 272 of H.R. 3200 to back up its assertion that seniors at 76 are not eligible for cancer treatment. Later, the email specifies that under Section 1145 of H.R. 3200, "cancer hospital will ration care according to the patient's age."

Neither statement is accurate. There is no rationing, based on age or otherwise, on cancer treatment under the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act signed into law in March 2010. Likewise, there is no rationing or cut-off age in 2009’s H.R. 3200.

H.R. 3200 contained a section on "treatment of certain cancer hospitals." But the American Nurses Association described the section as "the opposite of rationing. The section allows Medicare to pay cancer hospitals more if they are incurring higher costs." FactCheck.org agrees with the nurses group. And again, the bill never became law.

"All medically necessary treatment is covered by Medicare. Including cancer treatments, regardless of age," said Katherine Fitzpatrick with the Medicare Rights Center in Washington, D.C. and in New York.

http://www.politifact.com/oregon/statements/2013/jun/08/chain-email/will-seniors-be-denied-cancer-treatment-under-obam/

Go ahead and call your friend a liar, 'cause that's what she is. Better yet, ask her for her friend's name, what sort of cancer she has, what she did after the Mayo Clinic allegedly turned her down, and if you can contact her to get the full details.

[Ilsa]

9. I used this link as part of my

Response to her. Thank you for helping me out.

[Ms. Toad]

7. Yes they are (making it up).

But there are people on DU who are making it up (or repeating RW nonsense), as well.

[Ilsa]

8. THANK YOU EVERYONE!

I've countered her lies with links and common sense, and a recommendation that her *ahem* "friends" go see another doctor who knows what is going on.