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MineralMan

(151,269 posts)
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 12:14 PM Nov 2013

Listening in from the window seat:

Here's a sample from a future airline flight I'll be on. I always choose a window seat, since I like peering down at the landscape as we fly over it. These days, there's always someone sitting next to me in the middle seat. Here's what I expect to hear, now that the FAA is about to OK the use of cell phones during flights. BTW, I oppose that move, because I don't want to hear this, or anything else like it, on a flight:

Mary, I'm calling you from the plane.
...
No...from the plane. I'm on the plane!
...
Florida. I'm going to Cape Coral for a week.
...
CAPE CORAL!
...
No. FLORIDA.
...
Jim had to work, and isn't coming.
...
Actually, he's been sort of a jerk lately. I think he's seeing someone.
...
I have no idea, but we haven't had sex in two weeks.
...
TWO WEEKS!
...
What do you mean by that?
....
You knew about it and didn't tell me?
...
WHEN?
...
How could you have betrayed me like that?
...
HE SAID WHAT?
...
SHIT! You've ruined my vacation. I HATE YOU!
...
Well, you're welcome to him. Wait until he wants you to...
DID YOU JUST HANG UP ON ME?
{Pause}
Emily? I'm calling you from the plane.
...
THE PLANE. I'M ON THE PLANE!
{plugging in my earbuds}
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Listening in from the window seat: (Original Post) MineralMan Nov 2013 OP
Don't let people living their lives get to you. NCTraveler Nov 2013 #1
Playing games or texting is fine... polichick Nov 2013 #2
Would one get cell service for a whole flight? nt. NCTraveler Nov 2013 #3
You could talk as long as you could play games or text. polichick Nov 2013 #6
It was an honest question.l NCTraveler Nov 2013 #7
You're making the case for using phones in flight... polichick Nov 2013 #8
ok. nt. NCTraveler Nov 2013 #13
And imagine dozens of people LordGlenconner Nov 2013 #41
Really - people in the exit rows would be jumping out! polichick Nov 2013 #45
I recently bought a "better" set of headphones. MADem Nov 2013 #52
People living their lives is fine. HappyMe Nov 2013 #4
I have never been dragged into anybodys life/drama.... NCTraveler Nov 2013 #5
I don't care to overhear somebody HappyMe Nov 2013 #9
I do get that. I am sure a loud and extended conversation would get on my nerves. NCTraveler Nov 2013 #14
Planes are noisy, by nature. MineralMan Nov 2013 #16
And the more conversations there are the noisier it gets. MindPilot Nov 2013 #25
That, too. MineralMan Nov 2013 #28
Very good point. NCTraveler Nov 2013 #43
you don't get out much Skittles Nov 2013 #48
If you let people do this, then before you know it they are breastfeeding, MindPilot Nov 2013 #10
Breastfeeding is essential... polichick Nov 2013 #12
Why would anyone be bothered by someone breastfeeding MineralMan Nov 2013 #15
I think the other poster was being sarcastic/funny. HappyMe Nov 2013 #17
Now there's an idea... Ala carte Olive Garden on a plane... ScreamingMeemie Nov 2013 #21
It would be a hell of a lot better HappyMe Nov 2013 #27
Yah, I know. I was agreeing with the person MineralMan Nov 2013 #23
We really need a hyperbole font. MindPilot Nov 2013 #20
I got it but felt it's important to make a... polichick Nov 2013 #24
Also, I wish Taco Bell didn't sell bean burritos MineralMan Nov 2013 #31
oyyy polichick Nov 2013 #44
Indeed. MineralMan Nov 2013 #46
Also, airlines need to keep some Febreze around... polichick Nov 2013 #47
I recognized the satirical nature of your post. MineralMan Nov 2013 #26
"A nursing baby is a quiet baby" MindPilot Nov 2013 #29
I support a mother's right to breastfeed anywhere she wishes. MineralMan Nov 2013 #35
Larry David has a solution for this... msanthrope Nov 2013 #11
Funny bit. MineralMan Nov 2013 #19
Curb Your Enthusiasm FTW! Initech Nov 2013 #37
Same problem on the city bus. Le Taz Hot Nov 2013 #18
I ride Metro Transit buses here in the Twin Cities MineralMan Nov 2013 #22
On a shuttle bus home from the airport was a lady with a voice like Carol Channing's but louder FarCenter Nov 2013 #50
Yup. It is a way to be noticed, I guess. MineralMan Nov 2013 #51
I like to think that most people are generally rudolph the red Nov 2013 #30
I'll be flying in mid-December, and this rule won't be in effect yet. MineralMan Nov 2013 #32
I bought some cheap noise canceling headsets last winter Warpy Nov 2013 #33
Probably a good idea. MineralMan Nov 2013 #34
I do, too, usually my drugs and my knitting and a change of undies Warpy Nov 2013 #36
Keep a paper and pencil with you, start writing his conversation down... JHB Nov 2013 #38
You should take the initiative on this and make Millions! snooper2 Nov 2013 #39
How about the Ostrich Pillow? MineralMan Nov 2013 #40
Haven't flown since the 90's, one more reason I won't anytime soon IDemo Nov 2013 #42
What the heck is so important that it can't wait for a few hours?! CFLDem Nov 2013 #49
 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
1. Don't let people living their lives get to you.
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 12:18 PM
Nov 2013

Nothing wrong with using a cell phone on a plane. Playing games or texting is a great way to pass the time.

Maybe you could plug in your earbuds right off the bat. Maybe you could make a pretend call to your wife telling her about the conversation you just heard. Have fun.

polichick

(37,626 posts)
2. Playing games or texting is fine...
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 12:24 PM
Nov 2013

Flapping your gums for the whole flight is another story.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
7. It was an honest question.l
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 12:30 PM
Nov 2013

Do you get cell service throughout a flight? Your answer is kind of common sense, yet didn't answer the question.

 

LordGlenconner

(1,348 posts)
41. And imagine dozens of people
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 01:40 PM
Nov 2013

Flapping their gums in an enclosed area like an airplane. At the same time. It's a recipe to go apeshit.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
52. I recently bought a "better" set of headphones.
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 09:29 PM
Nov 2013

They are actual headphones, not huge, but they cover the ear and are not those bud things that hurt your ears (or hurt MY ears). I fly often enough, and I think I'll start breaking those bad boys out, even if I'm just listening to white noise!!!

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
4. People living their lives is fine.
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 12:27 PM
Nov 2013

It's when they drag everybody around them into their lives/drama that gets old fast.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
5. I have never been dragged into anybodys life/drama....
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 12:28 PM
Nov 2013

from overhearing a cell phone conversation.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
9. I don't care to overhear somebody
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 12:33 PM
Nov 2013

squabbling with their SO, complain about their hemorrhoids, or talk smack about their friends for upwards of 15 minutes.

A brief conversation - okay. Loud yammering on and on and on....sorry they are dragging me into their nonsense.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
14. I do get that. I am sure a loud and extended conversation would get on my nerves.
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 12:39 PM
Nov 2013

But a discussion about their hemorrhoids, count me in. Might even lean over and whisper a little unwanted advice.

MineralMan

(151,269 posts)
16. Planes are noisy, by nature.
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 12:44 PM
Nov 2013

That means that people are going to have to speak loudly to be understood. Hence the ALL CAPS and boldfacing in my sample dialog. I've listened to phone calls already, before takeoff and after arriving at the gate. People speak loudly, because the plane is noisy.

MineralMan

(151,269 posts)
28. That, too.
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 12:56 PM
Nov 2013

These days, once the plane gets to the gate, you hear this from all sides:

"I just landed. I should be outside in about 10 minutes."

I do that, too. That helps whoever is picking me up from circling the airport over and over again. At MSP, there's a convenient cell phone lot just off the airport. People wait there for a phone call, then drive to the pickup area just as the person is coming out the door. My wife and I do it so that I call her at the cell phone lot after I've gotten to the curb. No waiting, no delays.

She watches the flight on her smart phone, so she knows when it has landed, too. Easy peasy.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
43. Very good point.
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 02:05 PM
Nov 2013

Enough so to make me rethink my "I don't give a shit" attitude on this one. The noise of the plane, plus the noise of five or more phone conversations, might just drive one mad.

Skittles

(171,709 posts)
48. you don't get out much
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 05:41 PM
Nov 2013

I hear these assholes all the time, usually in line with me at the grocery store or at the post office

 

MindPilot

(12,693 posts)
10. If you let people do this, then before you know it they are breastfeeding,
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 12:33 PM
Nov 2013

wearing smelly perfume, and smoking e-cigs!

Seriously, I am all for permitting texting, but really I think talking on the phone should be prohibited during the flight.

MineralMan

(151,269 posts)
15. Why would anyone be bothered by someone breastfeeding
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 12:42 PM
Nov 2013

a baby on a plane. How is that disturbing? Phone calls are, by their nature, audibly intrusive. A nursing baby is a quiet baby, most of the time. I could still look out the window at the landscape and think about things.

As you point out, there's nothing much similar between the two things.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
17. I think the other poster was being sarcastic/funny.
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 12:44 PM
Nov 2013

Ala the Olive Garden, pitbulls etc. flamey threads.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
27. It would be a hell of a lot better
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 12:54 PM
Nov 2013

than absolutely nothing but peanuts.

I have had the soup and salad lunch there a few times. It was good.

 

MindPilot

(12,693 posts)
20. We really need a hyperbole font.
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 12:45 PM
Nov 2013

I thought that beginning my second sentence with "seriously" would clearly imply that the first one was not.

polichick

(37,626 posts)
24. I got it but felt it's important to make a...
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 12:51 PM
Nov 2013

distinction between essential activities and unnecessary ones.

I was on a flight with a woman who decided she should paint her nails. They made her stop - good call since the fumes were making people feel sick.

polichick

(37,626 posts)
47. Also, airlines need to keep some Febreze around...
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 02:21 PM
Nov 2013

My husband recently traveled to Europe in business class with those little bed thingys, and the bed reeked of body odor. They gave him a bunch of blankets to sleep on but the smell was horrendous. They could've used Febreze.

MineralMan

(151,269 posts)
26. I recognized the satirical nature of your post.
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 12:52 PM
Nov 2013

I was just continuing the conversation. Still, some folks on DU will provide an argument against breastfeeding at the drop of a hat. I've never quite understood that, but it's pretty common.

 

MindPilot

(12,693 posts)
29. "A nursing baby is a quiet baby"
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 01:03 PM
Nov 2013

That right there is why the cabin of an airliner is the very last place anyone should be opposed to breastfeeding. In fact it should be encouraged. Nursing mothers should get a heavy discount on their ticket if she agrees to feed all the crying babies on that flight.

(regardless of age)

MineralMan

(151,269 posts)
35. I support a mother's right to breastfeed anywhere she wishes.
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 01:19 PM
Nov 2013

Always have. I've never understood any objections to it. Folks have to eat, whatever their age.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
18. Same problem on the city bus.
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 12:44 PM
Nov 2013

The conversation often consists of something about a parole agent, the po-po, and smoking a bowl after I get off this bus and wherein the word "fuck" is inserted about every other word. All very loud.

You guys on the plane are at a distinct disadvantage in that there's no getting away from it. Tuesday one guy cleared out the entire bus in about 10 seconds. Apparently he had messed himself and he was the only one unaware of the vomit-inducing odor. Thank the goddess we were at a transfer station and could get off until the bus aired out.

MineralMan

(151,269 posts)
22. I ride Metro Transit buses here in the Twin Cities
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 12:49 PM
Nov 2013

pretty often. Generally, they're not all that packed, so I can usually find a seat with room around it. Planes, not so much.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
50. On a shuttle bus home from the airport was a lady with a voice like Carol Channing's but louder
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 09:21 PM
Nov 2013

Or maybe like Selma Diamond but louder.

The entire bus knew about who she was going to visit, which days, who else would be there, etc., etc., etc.

She was on the phone for the 45 minutes that I was on the bus, and she had another half hour to her stop.

 

rudolph the red

(666 posts)
30. I like to think that most people are generally
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 01:03 PM
Nov 2013

courteous to others by default, even if you are seated near the random jackass, so what? It's a minor annoyance, and it's easy to ignore such things. I hope you are pleasantly surprised next time you fly.

MineralMan

(151,269 posts)
32. I'll be flying in mid-December, and this rule won't be in effect yet.
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 01:07 PM
Nov 2013

I used to fly frequently for work. These days, I fly only a couple of times a year. I'm a very quiet, very polite passenger. I sit down, read my Kindle, and look out the window frequently. I can't say the same for a lot of people who have sat next to me, though.

Warpy

(114,615 posts)
33. I bought some cheap noise canceling headsets last winter
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 01:15 PM
Nov 2013

and they work when the police chopper is circling overhead for hours at a time. I think they'll come in very handy when some cell phone clod is shrieking into his/her idiot phone trying to be heard above the engine noise.

I'll get to try them out eventually. I think I got them just in time. I'll be the one with the Kindle and knitting with headsets on.

ETA: cell phone clods in close proximity where people are jammed together and uncomfortable with a certain amount of anxiety at being in a metal tube 35,000 feet above the ground, what could possibly go wrong? This ruling is dumb. Texting is one thing, I don't think anyone will mind that, but some people feel compelled to scream into the damned phones every minute they're awake.

MineralMan

(151,269 posts)
34. Probably a good idea.
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 01:17 PM
Nov 2013

I don't have those, though. It would be just one more thing to deal with, and I travel very lightly.

Warpy

(114,615 posts)
36. I do, too, usually my drugs and my knitting and a change of undies
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 01:22 PM
Nov 2013

in my smallish carry on bag, a half filled suitcase checked. I'd have plenty of room for the headsets, which fold flat and are easy to pack. The headsets would prevent murder and I'm neither rich nor beautiful enough to be acquitted.

JHB

(38,213 posts)
38. Keep a paper and pencil with you, start writing his conversation down...
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 01:27 PM
Nov 2013

...when you finish a page, hold it in front of him.


 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
39. You should take the initiative on this and make Millions!
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 01:29 PM
Nov 2013

The Mineral Man Bubble!



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MineralMan

(151,269 posts)
40. How about the Ostrich Pillow?
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 01:37 PM
Nov 2013

It's available from a number of outlets, including Hammacher Shchlemmer:



http://www.hammacher.com/Product/84391

They charge way too much for it, though, but if you Google Ostrich Pillow, you'll find it for a quarter of their price.

The ultimate travel accessory?

IDemo

(16,926 posts)
42. Haven't flown since the 90's, one more reason I won't anytime soon
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 02:03 PM
Nov 2013

I understand that many either have to or want to and that's fine. I'm happy without the absurd mess flying has become in the decade and a half since then.

 

CFLDem

(2,083 posts)
49. What the heck is so important that it can't wait for a few hours?!
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 08:16 PM
Nov 2013

It's not like you can parachute from the plane to do something about it.

Just a furthering of society's

"It's important because it's important to ME" complex.

Put the damn phone down and enjoy the wonder of flight. (Full disclosure: as an aviator I am biased about flight being wonderful).

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