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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumswill Tom Brokaw ask George HW Bush where he was on 11/22/63?
NBC tonight will feature a two hour special asking people to recall where they were on that fateful day.
Bush 41 has said that he can't remember.
The preview clip showed Jimmy Carter, Joe Biden, others telling where they were and how they felt.
Will anyone at NBC dare ask Bush 41?
Hm?
dlwickham
(3,316 posts)conspiracy theories?
DJ13
(23,671 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)George Herbert Walker Bush also dropped a dime on an assassination suspect an hour afterward. One would think a good time to phone in a threat would be BEFORE the assassination.
TO: SAC, HOUSTON DATE: 11-22-63
FROM: SA GRAHAM W. KITCHEL
SUBJECT: UNKNOWN SUBJECT;
ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT
JOHN F. KENNEDY
At 1:45 p.m. Mr. GEORGE H. W. BUSH, President of the Zapata Off-Shore Drilling Company, Houston, Texas, residence 5525 Briar, Houston, telephonically furnished the following information to writer by long distance telephone call from Tyler, Texas.
BUSH stated that he wanted to be kept confidential but wanted to furnish hearsay that he recalled hearing in recent weeks, the day and source unknown. He stated that one JAMES PARROTT has been talking of killing the President when he comes to Houston.
BUSH stated that PARROTT is possibly a student at the University of Houston and is active in political matters in this area. He stated that he felt Mrs. FAWLEY, telephone number SU 2-5239, or ARLINE SMITH, telephone number JA 9-9194 of the Harris County Republican Party Headquarters would be able to furnish additional information regarding the identity of PARROTT.
BUSH stated that he was proceeding to Dallas, Texas, would remain in the Sheraton-Dallas Hotel and return to his residence on 11-23-63. His office telephone number is CA 2-0395.
# # #
A week later, FBI director J Edgar Hoover brings up "Mr. George Bush of the Central Intelligence Agency."
Date: November 29, 1963
To: Director
Bureau of Intelligence and Research
Department of State
From: John Edgar Hoover, Director
Subject: ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT JOHN F. KENNEDY
NOVEMBER 22, 1963
Our Miami, Florida, Office on November 23, 1963, advised that the Office of Coordinator of Cuban Affairs in Miami advised that the Department of State feels some misguided anti-Castro group might capitalize on the present situation and undertake an unauthorized raid against Cuba, believing that the assassination of President John F. Kennedy might herald a change in U. S. policy, which is not true.
Our sources and informants familiar with Cuban matters in the Miami area advise that the general feeling in the anti-Castro Cuban community is one of stunned disbelief and, even among those who did not entirely agree with the President's policy concerning Cuba, the feeling is that the President's death represents a great loss not only to the U. S. but to all of Latin America. These sources know of no plans for unauthorized action against Cuba.
An informant who has furnished reliable information in the past and who is close to a small pro-Castro group in Miami has advised that these individuals are afraid that the assassination of the President may result in strong repressive measures being taken against them and, although pro-Castro in their feelings, regret the assassination.
The substance of the foregoing information was orally furnished to Mr. George Bush of the Central Intelligence Agency and Captain William Edwards of the Defense Intelligence Agency on November 23, 1963, by Mr. W. T. Forsyth of this Bureau.
# # #
Something else Tom Brokaw should ask the first CIA director to rise to the top of the heap and become preznit and have a kid become pretzeldent: Why has the CIA failed to tell the FBI and the Warren Commission that it was involved in plots with the Mafia to murder Fidel Castro -- even after being ordered to stop by Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy?
Also: Why did the CIA fail to tell the FBI and the Warren Commission that it was monitoring Lee Harvey Oswald for weeks before the assassination?
What a coincidence, eh Tom?
DJ13
(23,671 posts)Indeed.
Protecting Poppy (and the family legacy) is probably why the truth will never be released.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)...murder, torture, spy, steal elections, loot banks and remain free.
monmouth3
(3,871 posts)Cheap_Trick
(3,918 posts)dlwickham
(3,316 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)I don't know why he couldn't have stated, 'I was in Dallas that day and was shocked when I heard the news'.
Seems he felt he needed to hide that fact for some reason.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)MiniMe
(21,714 posts)That would be Poppy
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)Cha
(297,128 posts)on my tv reporting the tragedy.
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)Oh, wait, nope only he paid the price for his supposed misdeeds, while her real ones cost her nothing. (The one from the Benghazi non-story recently)
Cha
(297,128 posts)rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)He said he was quite shaken and that Prescott his father was a friend of JFK's.
Gman
(24,780 posts)Was driving back to Houston from Dallas. He's about the only person in the country that doesn't seem to know where he was that day.
cynatnite
(31,011 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)since the release of the documents through the FOIA. But as a relatively young man, he could not recall, or would not tell, where he was that day.
cynatnite
(31,011 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)as to where they were on that historic and tragic day.
Since he claimed not to remember, as a YOUNG man, it appears he either had the mind of an Old Man when he was a Young Man, which should have eliminated him from the many powerful positions he held in our government up to and including President, or he simply didn't want to say where he was.
Fortunately for him,, assuming he really did have the mind of an Old Man in his younger years, the FOIA made it possible to find out where he was, which as I said above, most likely has improved his memory. NOW he knows where he was, we all know where he was.
cynatnite
(31,011 posts)He's a decrepit old man and nothing he says will be reliable. Honestly, I don't know why people expect anything out of them especially now since he's so old and only has a few years on this earth left.
People just needs to move on and forget about him. There is nothing more we can expect from him.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)away with it? Iow, the lesson is, don't get caught until you are old and everyone will move forward and ignore your past crimes? Sorry, it doesn't work that way.
I don't expect anything of liars and criminals. I do expect the rule of law to be applied equally, across the board so that we can continue to claim to be a civilized nation. Age isn't a factor in any part of the law that I am aware of.
Moving forward from major crimes teaches a lesson to other criminals, just don't get caught. We moved forward from Iran Contra and the criminals moved forward also. Back into power where they committed even worse crimes. And we moved forward AGAIN rather than prosecute them finally. So the crimes will continue with a small, privileged segment at the top always being granted, not just immunity from their crimes, but rewarded and treated like elder statesmen. That has taught a great lesson to the next generation of War Criminals, to Torturers, to Liars.
I guess it all depends on what kind of country you want to live in whether or not you want the Rule of Law to be applied to War Criminas and Wall St Criminals at least as harshly as it is applied to petty thieves who are not privileged enough to be protected from it.
cynatnite
(31,011 posts)when he has so few years left and quite possibly when he's thinking of his legacy...is unrealistic.
He's not going to admit to anything...so why expect it?
That is what I am saying. Thanks for taking what I said out of complete context and putting your own interpretation on it.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)cynatnite
(31,011 posts)and start yammering about what might have done in Dallas, the WH or the CIA?
I just think it's unrealistic to have any expectation that he will say anything to shed any light on those subjects that people think he's knowledgeable about.
Move on and forget it. If he hasn't talked by now, he's not going to with only a few years left on this planet. IF he even knows anything, he'll take it to his grave.
The Second Stone
(2,900 posts)at a lunch banquet at another city in Texas. I used to be highly suspicious of this.
ReRe
(10,597 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)He was in Washington, at a meeting with the bin Laden family. And that's the goddam truth.
ReRe
(10,597 posts)And yes, that is the truth. 2014!
grasswire
(50,130 posts)In fact, I'm not sure any major Republicans were asked.
Clinton, Carter, Kerry, some Hollywood people, and Biden, etc. Some who were only six years old at the time.
No Bushes.
Weird.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)that was the premise of the program, it is a good question.
The answer is 'no', they did not ask him.
When he WAS asked, in the past, before the release of documents that help answer the question, he appeared to have amnesia about where he was on a day when even those who were 5 years old at the time, remember.
If we had a free, rather than a corporate media, the odd loss of memory of one person as opposed to the vivid memories of even those who were children at the time would have been noted, and then cleared up when those documents were released.
But then if we had a free press his son could not have lied this country into a disastrous war.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Lone Nut did it.
Mafia Did it.
Anti Castro Cubans did it.
Rich Oil Men did it.
Rogue CIA agents did it.
Not us, but another CIA did it.
Move on.
Right.
Lone Nut did it.
The Big Con at Dealey Plaza
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)How does that fit in?
I have no clue.
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)Mother Muckraker
(116 posts)Baker says[1] that an initial impetus for this research was George H.W. Bush's remarkable claim that he does not remember where he was on the day of the John F. Kennedy assassination. The book documents that he was in Dallas the day before, and in the nearby town of Tyler, Texas the day of that event,[2] and brings to light his associations and correspondence with individuals involved in various ways with Lee Harvey Oswald, such as George de Mohrenschildt.[3] It documents the struggle between President Nixon and intelligence and military agencies prior to the Watergate scandal, and adduces evidence that the Watergate burglary and other actions ascribed to Nixon were in fact perpetrated by operatives assigned to compromise the President so that he would be removed from office.[4] The book also documents covert aspects of the relationship between the United States and the Saudi royal family, and how the Bush family and their circle benefit from this relationship