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jpgray

(27,831 posts)
Sat Mar 10, 2012, 09:31 AM Mar 2012

I get the iPad3 craze

What I don't get is why emotions run so high either way on the subject. You can't do much of anything useful with an iPad, but then there are millions who don't do much of anything useful with their personal computers. If you're only going to consume content with a personal computer, you won't miss the capabilities the iPad lacks, and will appreciate that axing those capabilities streamlines the experience of consumption. Those who want to do something specific the iPad can't do will see it as useless and find it unimaginable that anyone would ever buy one.

Odds are many iPad buyers have devices on hand that can do all the tablet can and more, or consume content at much higher fidelity, but it costs them too many pains to switch between devices, lack the content while on the go, or to miss out on the latest when others have it and are speaking of it constantly.

Millions more people lay out similar sums for similar fads and conveniences than will ever buy an iPad, so I don't really see how battle lines would ever get drawn in this specific case. Marketing and hype are obnoxious, and Apple gets a lot of free press on top of their advertising, maybe?

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I get the iPad3 craze (Original Post) jpgray Mar 2012 OP
Actually, Adobe is coming out with a version of Photoshop for iPad. Atman Mar 2012 #1
If it WORKS it could make an iPad worth having... TroglodyteScholar Mar 2012 #28
Or, it will cost $1200. Atman Mar 2012 #29
But a lot of people on DU say that 500$ or 1200$ really isn't that much. nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #34
Marketing? randr Mar 2012 #2
What makes you think you can't do anything useful with an iPad? we can do it Mar 2012 #3
It's so dumb to say iPads are not useful. proud2BlibKansan Mar 2012 #9
yes I have seen it with my little patients and music mucifer Mar 2012 #14
Interactive consumption of content, yes? jpgray Mar 2012 #18
Do you work with disabled kids? proud2BlibKansan Mar 2012 #21
The iPad suits my wife perfectly Gman Mar 2012 #4
That sums it up, I think jpgray Mar 2012 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Tesha Mar 2012 #12
It's not a craze or a fad. And Apple is a mainstream product. onehandle Mar 2012 #5
You can't do much of anything useful with an iPad?? proud2BlibKansan Mar 2012 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author Tesha Mar 2012 #8
What a reasonable sounding response. This from the SAME poster who said: Pholus Mar 2012 #42
I got an IPad I, and I guess doing research nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #10
I don't see a tablet's design as particularly suited to word processing jpgray Mar 2012 #16
First blue tooth works well nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #17
Tell this to my co-workers. Inspired Mar 2012 #11
My technology is superior to yours. dawg Mar 2012 #38
Hitler never had an iPad. n/t Ian David Mar 2012 #13
it's people's anti-hype defenses going up Enrique Mar 2012 #15
They help create jobs for suicidal people in China. JVS Mar 2012 #19
So does Microsoft, in the same plant in fact. nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #20
Yep. They put nets outside the windows to catch suicidal workers. HopeHoops Mar 2012 #24
Do you happen to know what Microsoft produces there? tkmorris Mar 2012 #25
The XBox if memory serves nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #35
Keep beating that dead horse we can do it Mar 2012 #22
Agreed. Calling attention to human rights abuses is so passe. raouldukelives Mar 2012 #32
I hope your computer is at least 15 years old. nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #36
Sadly only 12 years. nt raouldukelives Mar 2012 #40
It's inevitable. The laptop has almost replaced the desktop (except for servers). HopeHoops Mar 2012 #23
Some brand loyalties are suprising cult-like. Odin2005 Mar 2012 #26
Actually a lot of Sega's bones are in the Xbox. nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #33
It's mostly about any other status-based product.. sendero Mar 2012 #27
*Yawn* Atman Mar 2012 #30
People who dump.. sendero Mar 2012 #41
I won't get one, but I see its use in some situations. It is very lightweight.... Honeycombe8 Mar 2012 #31
Yay!!!!! cherokeeprogressive Mar 2012 #37
The Asus Transformer Infinity is going to be a much better tablet than the new iPad. NoNeed4Attention Mar 2012 #39

Atman

(31,464 posts)
1. Actually, Adobe is coming out with a version of Photoshop for iPad.
Sat Mar 10, 2012, 09:35 AM
Mar 2012

That alone could make the iPad worth having for a lot of people.

TroglodyteScholar

(5,477 posts)
28. If it WORKS it could make an iPad worth having...
Sat Mar 10, 2012, 12:37 PM
Mar 2012

However, I'll bet you a dollar that it's a disaster.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
29. Or, it will cost $1200.
Sat Mar 10, 2012, 12:41 PM
Mar 2012

I've seen previews. It looks pretty cool...all touch-based. You can draw right on the tablet. We'll see, but I do get your point.

randr

(12,642 posts)
2. Marketing?
Sat Mar 10, 2012, 09:39 AM
Mar 2012

People blasted Windows when they would introduce a new operating system complaining that they should not have to pay again and again for improvements.
Apple essentially does the same and people can't wait to buy the new product.
Am I missing something?

we can do it

(13,023 posts)
3. What makes you think you can't do anything useful with an iPad?
Sat Mar 10, 2012, 09:40 AM
Mar 2012

OWEN CAIN depends on a respirator and struggles to make even the slightest movements — he has had a debilitating motor-neuron disease since infancy.

Owen, 7, does not have the strength to maneuver a computer mouse, but when a nurse propped her boyfriend’s iPad within reach in June, he did something his mother had never seen before.

He aimed his left pointer finger at an icon on the screen, touched it — just barely — and opened the application Gravitarium, which plays music as users create landscapes of stars on the screen. Over the years, Owen’s parents had tried several computerized communications contraptions to give him an escape from his disability, but the iPad was the first that worked on the first try.

“We have spent all this time keeping him alive, and now we owe him more than that,” said his mother, Ellen Goldstein, a vice president at the Times Square Alliance business association. “I see his ability to communicate and to learn as a big part of that challenge — not all of it, but a big part of it. And so, that’s my responsibility.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/31/nyregion/31owen.htmlhttp://mashable.com/2011/07/25/ipads-disabilities/

http://atmac.org/round-up-ipad-user-stories

http://www.disabled-world.com/assistivedevices/apps/verbally.php

proud2BlibKansan

(96,793 posts)
9. It's so dumb to say iPads are not useful.
Sat Mar 10, 2012, 09:52 AM
Mar 2012

iPads have literally revolutionized education, especially for kids with disabilities.

jpgray

(27,831 posts)
18. Interactive consumption of content, yes?
Sat Mar 10, 2012, 10:14 AM
Mar 2012

I don't believe I argued content consumption was useless - I have no doubt an iPad could be useful in the context you describe. After generations of education software, however, revolutionize gets my skeptic's hackles up.

Gman

(24,780 posts)
4. The iPad suits my wife perfectly
Sat Mar 10, 2012, 09:41 AM
Mar 2012

She consumes content and that's all. OTOH, I need MS Outlook, Excel and Word. I don't need an iPad.

jpgray

(27,831 posts)
6. That sums it up, I think
Sat Mar 10, 2012, 09:45 AM
Mar 2012

No one needs to make an argument that the iPad is awesomely suited for writing novels or in-depth photo processing, etc. in some quest to prove it is useful - just because someone wants a computer for consuming content doesn't mean they've paid $400 for a pet rock. Consuming content is a perfectly legitimate use.

Response to Gman (Reply #4)

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
5. It's not a craze or a fad. And Apple is a mainstream product.
Sat Mar 10, 2012, 09:45 AM
Mar 2012

Some can't accept that Apple is in the vast majority of American homes.

I never say that an iPad is better than a regular computer (although it's killing the netbook market). But it's much more accessible and understandable to a wider range of people.

They should hand them out in old folks homes. Schools are adapting them at an incredible rate.

Let the haters, hate.

proud2BlibKansan

(96,793 posts)
7. You can't do much of anything useful with an iPad??
Sat Mar 10, 2012, 09:50 AM
Mar 2012

Wow. I can't disagree more with that statement.

Response to jpgray (Original post)

Pholus

(4,062 posts)
42. What a reasonable sounding response. This from the SAME poster who said:
Sun Mar 11, 2012, 06:13 AM
Mar 2012

Quote: "Who's mad? I'm ROFLing that someone could compare that piece of shit with an iPad!"

Funny what a difference a day makes in terms of trying to forget the past...

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
10. I got an IPad I, and I guess doing research
Sat Mar 10, 2012, 09:53 AM
Mar 2012

Writing news paper articles, sending photos of the Minority Leader of the House to go with it, and writing a short story or two is not useful...who knew?

Yes Virginia, quite a bit of content is actually produced on IPads.

No, I am NOT upgrading...but to say you can't do anything useful is ignorant at best.

jpgray

(27,831 posts)
16. I don't see a tablet's design as particularly suited to word processing
Sat Mar 10, 2012, 10:08 AM
Mar 2012

Certainly a desire for something to type on would be a strange reason to buy an iPad.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
17. First blue tooth works well
Sat Mar 10, 2012, 10:13 AM
Mar 2012

And the combo of that and external keyboard is lighter than a NetBook. Yes, when doing backpack journalism every damn ounce counts.

Second, there are times I *use* the on board keyboard, like now, when my hands are incapable of typing, well, like now.

Inspired

(3,958 posts)
11. Tell this to my co-workers.
Sat Mar 10, 2012, 09:59 AM
Mar 2012

Bringing iPads to meetings for taking notes is all the rage. Silly me with my legal pad and pen.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
15. it's people's anti-hype defenses going up
Sat Mar 10, 2012, 10:07 AM
Mar 2012

it's people feeling they're being sold something, and saying "i don't want it."

 

HopeHoops

(47,675 posts)
24. Yep. They put nets outside the windows to catch suicidal workers.
Sat Mar 10, 2012, 12:27 PM
Mar 2012

That's pretty damn sad.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
35. The XBox if memory serves
Sat Mar 10, 2012, 03:10 PM
Mar 2012

They also use Foxxcon for mice and keyboards.

Dell buys boards, HP as well. Samsung, iirc is the one that does not source to Chinese factories. That province is a major technology hub.

raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
32. Agreed. Calling attention to human rights abuses is so passe.
Sat Mar 10, 2012, 01:16 PM
Mar 2012

I find things are much simpler when I don't consider the ramifications of my actions or investments.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
36. I hope your computer is at least 15 years old.
Sat Mar 10, 2012, 03:12 PM
Mar 2012

Yes, think where things are produced, but to think it's only one company is ignorant at best.

 

HopeHoops

(47,675 posts)
23. It's inevitable. The laptop has almost replaced the desktop (except for servers).
Sat Mar 10, 2012, 12:25 PM
Mar 2012

As soon as all external devices use something better than Blue Tooth, and they figure out how to make a touch screen feel like a keyboard, the tablets will displace the laptop. HDMI has almost replaced VGA, but damn near every computer has a VGA port that's also considered the primary boot screen. Floppy drives? I've got a 3 1/2" USB drive that works just fine, but what about my 5 1/4" floppies? (I keep machines with 5 1/4" drives active for that purpose). I've got a few with built in ZIP drives. Remember those? 100K on a disk. Serial ports? Parallel ports? No such luck. At least the Ethernet port still accepts the same connection. There are a lot of deficiencies with tablets, but the same was true of laptops when they came out. I still have one of the original IBM ThinkPads with the nipple in the keyboard. I loved using that machine (and no, not because it sounds rude).

I tend to be a late adapter to such things, mostly to let the "IT'S SHINY" morons spend the big money and cry about their problems. After things have stabilized, I look at it and decide if I'm interested.

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
26. Some brand loyalties are suprising cult-like.
Sat Mar 10, 2012, 12:34 PM
Mar 2012

Back in the 90s it was Nintendo vs. Sega. As a kid I was a Nintendo cultist and hated the Sega Genisis just because it was made by Sega.

Now Nintendo OWNS Sega, LOL!!!

sendero

(28,552 posts)
27. It's mostly about any other status-based product..
Sat Mar 10, 2012, 12:36 PM
Mar 2012

... people think they can buy the trappings of prosperity and the illusion of hipness.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
30. *Yawn*
Sat Mar 10, 2012, 12:43 PM
Mar 2012

Or maybe people actually like the product and find it useful? Imagine that! Haters just seem to think it's hip to hate.

sendero

(28,552 posts)
41. People who dump..
Sat Mar 10, 2012, 08:49 PM
Mar 2012

.. one version for one that is infinitesimally better the week it is released fit my description perfectly. It has nothing to do with "finding it useful".

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
31. I won't get one, but I see its use in some situations. It is very lightweight....
Sat Mar 10, 2012, 12:47 PM
Mar 2012

not just in jobs it does, but in actual weight. So it travels well.

Examples: I was at a farmers market. The seller had an Ipad he was carrying, to use for charge cards. He had to plug a device into it to run the card through, but then a screen comes up that is the charge page, and the customer signed the Ipad screen. The device he'd plugged into it would then print a receipt. A laptop would do all that, but would've been too cumbersome, what with a cover to lift, and the added weight.

Another example: I have a friend who loves her Ipad. She took it to a vacation cabin with her, mainly for checking her emails and playing a few games, and having access to Internet. It was lightweight, easy to carry around with her. But it's easier to read the screen than her Iphone.

Other than that, I don't see its purpose, but maybe I'm missing some of its attributes, since I don't have one (and don't want one). I use my laptop mainly at home, and it has all the features I would use. I've taken it to work with me, but it is a tad heavy & cumbersome. I carry it in a rolling padded laptop carry case. If I travelled a lot and just needed email, internet, and games, I'd consider a tablet (used, I guess...I'd never pay almost $1k for a gadget like that).

 

NoNeed4Attention

(13 posts)
39. The Asus Transformer Infinity is going to be a much better tablet than the new iPad.
Sat Mar 10, 2012, 03:22 PM
Mar 2012

It'll have a Tegra 3 quad-core 1.6 GHz processor with a 12-core GPU (the new iPad only has a dual-core CPU with a quad-core GPU) and it'll run for half the price of an iPad.

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