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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Sat Nov 23, 2013, 07:47 AM Nov 2013

"I Never Thought I'd Be Working In My 70s": Three Distressing Retirement Stories

http://www.alternet.org/economy/americas-retirement-crisis



It’s official: America has entered a retirement crisis. Or, as Forbes understatedly put it, “the greatest retirement crisis in the history of the world.”

And, while the causes are manifold — the demographic bulge of baby boomers leaving the fulltime workforce; greater worker longevity; the disastrous, 30-year shift from traditional defined benefit pensions to costly 401(k)-style plans — most experts agree that the national retirement implosion has gone critical, with an estimated 75 percent of Americans who are nearing retirement age having less than $27,000 in their retirement accounts.

Even John C. Bogle, the founder of the $2 trillion mutual fund and 401(k) behemoth Vanguard Group, recently admitted that the system of retirement plans that rely on 401(k)s is broken.

“[401(k)s were] designed as a thrift plan, and it doesn’t work as a retirement plan,” Bogle declared.

http://vimeo.com/79730669#at=0
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"I Never Thought I'd Be Working In My 70s": Three Distressing Retirement Stories (Original Post) xchrom Nov 2013 OP
Another in the long list of imminent disasters we are going to pretend don't exist. Egalitarian Thug Nov 2013 #1
yes, the typical list of words flowing from the mouths of 'experts'... xchrom Nov 2013 #3
Yup. ctsnowman Nov 2013 #10
They fail to look on the bright side. Turbineguy Nov 2013 #2
real crisis yet to come if rightwing crazies ever gain control of govt beachbum bob Nov 2013 #4
If? n/t Egalitarian Thug Nov 2013 #17
A lot of seniors work merely to cover health care and medical costs. If the GOP would stop kelliekat44 Nov 2013 #5
I'm already resigned to the fact I'll have to work till I die KG Nov 2013 #6
Yet A Lot Of Seniors Still Vote GOP. TheMastersNemesis Nov 2013 #7
Well, yeah, because (insert racial, ethnic or gender slur here)s. HughBeaumont Nov 2013 #11
Include ignorance, habit and inertia. pangaia Nov 2013 #13
Quelle surprise. Alkene Nov 2013 #8
My 75 yo mom LWolf Nov 2013 #9
Then there's the other disastrous, 30-year shift . . . . HughBeaumont Nov 2013 #12
2014 GOTV and VOTE, early and often !! pangaia Nov 2013 #14
our rapacious,greedy 1% owners FatBuddy Nov 2013 #15
post from 2020: "EXCUSE me, but the only people against HillaryWorks are MisterP Nov 2013 #16
Sensible woodhucks all agree Fumesucker Nov 2013 #18
I hope to remain working until I take my final breath Generic Brad Nov 2013 #19
But if you get sick or hurt? What happens to you and what happens to those who do? What is other's The Wielding Truth Mar 2017 #20
I'll cross that bridge when and if I come to it Generic Brad Mar 2017 #21
 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
1. Another in the long list of imminent disasters we are going to pretend don't exist.
Sat Nov 23, 2013, 07:54 AM
Nov 2013

Once it hits, everyone will be quite shocked and terribly frustrated that nothing was done. If only we'd known about it before...

xchrom

(108,903 posts)
3. yes, the typical list of words flowing from the mouths of 'experts'...
Sat Nov 23, 2013, 08:37 AM
Nov 2013

surprise, unexpected, unforeseen...etc

ctsnowman

(1,903 posts)
10. Yup.
Sat Nov 23, 2013, 10:49 AM
Nov 2013

And the of course we will have to lower taxes and decrease regulations becuase that's what caused the whole thing in the first place.

Turbineguy

(37,319 posts)
2. They fail to look on the bright side.
Sat Nov 23, 2013, 07:54 AM
Nov 2013

Last edited Sat Nov 23, 2013, 10:45 AM - Edit history (1)

Some undeserving Wall Street Wanker is driving a Bentley thanks to them.

The GOP retirement plan is a gun and a magazine with bullets.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
4. real crisis yet to come if rightwing crazies ever gain control of govt
Sat Nov 23, 2013, 08:42 AM
Nov 2013

eliminating social security and medicare/medicaid is at the top of their list as well as outlawing unions and prevailing wage act. Its bad now but it can become much worse.

We have people who see no need for ANY safety net...build more prisons, build debtor prisons, bring back chain gang labor. And to those who can't survive, let them die.

compassionate conservatism

 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
5. A lot of seniors work merely to cover health care and medical costs. If the GOP would stop
Sat Nov 23, 2013, 08:52 AM
Nov 2013

trying to gut the ACA and help make it work better, more people would be able to stop work and retire without fearing that their modest incomes would not be enough to take care of them. And if our government, especially the GOP, would help get decent jobs bills passed with good protections for workers and stop trying to bust up unions and hold wages down, more young folks could get jobs and contribute to the economy and government revenues. Selfishness is short-sighted for the nation. But the wealthy just don't give a damn....they don't have to work.

KG

(28,751 posts)
6. I'm already resigned to the fact I'll have to work till I die
Sat Nov 23, 2013, 08:54 AM
Nov 2013

fortunately, i guess, it would be sitting at a desk rather than physical labor.

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
11. Well, yeah, because (insert racial, ethnic or gender slur here)s.
Sat Nov 23, 2013, 10:51 AM
Nov 2013

They "LOVE THEIR COUNTRY" while hating 93% of the people in it.

Alkene

(752 posts)
8. Quelle surprise.
Sat Nov 23, 2013, 10:04 AM
Nov 2013

I've never assumed otherwise for myself.

My assumption has long been that I'll work until I'm too sick to function, use up what little savings I've managed on a few weeks' groceries, languish in a cardboard box under the freeway until I die from exposure and malnutrition at which point I'll become fodder for the rats, crows and raccoons.

Not much of a retirement plan, but as a citizen of the greatest, most exceptional nation in the history of the world, it will have been an honor and a privilege to have worked all my life so my superiors could have nice lives with nice things in nice neighborhoods. Seriously. An honor.

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
12. Then there's the other disastrous, 30-year shift . . . .
Sat Nov 23, 2013, 10:54 AM
Nov 2013

. . .. from a sane and working social contract to re-branded Feudalism, which helps nobody but 5,000 people and needs to go the way of the dodo and FAST.

 

FatBuddy

(376 posts)
15. our rapacious,greedy 1% owners
Sat Nov 23, 2013, 11:07 AM
Nov 2013

had this shit all mapped out from the jump.

they knew exactly what they were doing.

the Great American Fire Sale proceeds full throttle.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
16. post from 2020: "EXCUSE me, but the only people against HillaryWorks are
Sat Nov 23, 2013, 03:31 PM
Nov 2013

GOPSTRUCTIONSITS WHO WANT TO PUT US ALL IN CAMPS"

Generic Brad

(14,274 posts)
19. I hope to remain working until I take my final breath
Sat Nov 23, 2013, 05:01 PM
Nov 2013

I love my job. I love mentoring people. I love making a positive impact on people's lives. I have no intention of ever walking away from that unless my health dictates otherwise.

The Wielding Truth

(11,415 posts)
20. But if you get sick or hurt? What happens to you and what happens to those who do? What is other's
Wed Mar 1, 2017, 03:34 PM
Mar 2017

jobs don't pay enough ? Without SS and medicare we well see our economy flatten. We will all suffer.

Generic Brad

(14,274 posts)
21. I'll cross that bridge when and if I come to it
Wed Mar 1, 2017, 09:57 PM
Mar 2017

My preference is to retire when I want to, not when I am forced to. I consider myself fortunate. I have developed myself into an expert in my field and still continue to increase my value every year. At a time when my peers are losing ground, I am not.

But I understand that I am an exception, not the rule. I agree completely with your point of view.

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