All the Fake Democrats Please Take a Seat!

[mfcorey1]

I know where Republicans stand. They have voted 47 times to repeal the Affordable Care Act, so their stance is clear. If you get sick, you're on your own. If you can't pay for your medical expenses, declare bankruptcy. If you have a pre-existing condition, they'll send you a get well card when you're on your death bed. Whatever President Obama stands for, they stand for the opposite. Even if it goes against every principle they have advocated for in the past, they would rather destroy our country, than see President Obama pass policy that is good for ALL Americans.

I thought I knew where most Democrats stood. I thought they stood on the side of the poor, the elderly, the students, the young people, the disenfranchised, the women, the middle class, the working class and all of those struggling to stay afloat during some very difficult economic times. But, then came a website. And the website had a lot of problems (that is probably an understatement). And some Democrats, 39 of them to be exact, couldn't handle the hate, I mean heat, coming from the other side. So, their knees wobbled. Their brows glistened with sweat. Their stomachs growled. Their fear of losing their job over a website took over their every move. And please don't tell me this about people whose healthcare was cancelled... because that healthcare is predatory and it is unconscionable that we would allow anyone in this country to own such policies.

I run websites. I have built websites. I certainly understand the complications of servers and load times and 404 errors. THIS CAN ALL BE FIXED! And it will be fixed. But what cannot be fixed, is the fact that for over 100 years we have tried to reform our healthcare system, and EVERY president before Barack Obama FAILED! Yes, we initially wanted single payer, and we had to compromise back in 2009 for the Affordable Care Act. But, it is a damn good piece of legislation that has already saved hundreds of thousands, if not millions of lives. So, let us not give up now.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/russell-simmons/all-the-fake-democrats-pl_b_4317246.html

[LWolf]

2. I think private, for-profit health insurance period is predatory.

I also think that the deductibles offered to many under the ACA continue to make care NOT affordable, whether one has insurance or not.

If a net increase of people get actual care without going bankrupt, I'm glad. That's good. I'm not going to, though, pretend that the ACA is the answer to affordable care in the U.S., and I'm damned well not going to fucking take a seat because somebody doesn't like the kind of Democrat that I am.

I know that Republican attacks on the ACA have been ridiculous. Republicans are ridiculous; what do you expect? That doesn't mean I'm going to defend a flawed program; my level of support is based on the level that the law earns, not anything that republicans say or do.

[99Forever]

3. ^^This^^

Thank you, I couldn't agree more. This is a step in the right direction, but there is still a very long way to go. Decent health care for every one of us is a basic human right that should not even be argued about. "Insurance" is NOT health care and "private insurers" are bloodsucking parasites that add NOTHING positive to providing or bettering health care.

[JNelson6563]

4. I doubt many here think ACA is the answer

I for one think it is a great first step in the right direction though.

Julie

[bvar22]

5. More Americans will have "insurance".

So the ACA WILL help a lot of people.
It is not bad...for a Republican "Market Based Solution" that subsidizes another useless Indusrty with Billions of taxpayer dollars that do NOT go toward Health Care.
I can understand why moderate Republicans and Reagan Democrats are very happy with this "Uniquely American Solution".


I agree with Bill Moyer's analysis of the ACA.

"Republicans have now lost three successive elections to control the Senate and they’ve lost the last two presidential elections. Nonetheless, they fought tooth and nail to kill President Obama’s health care initiative. They lost that fight, but with the corporate wing of Democrats, they managed to bend it toward private interests.

So we should be clear on this, Obamacare, as it’s known, is deeply flawed. Big subsidies to the health insurance industry. A bonanza for lobbyists. No public option. And as The New York Times reported this week, “Millions of Poor Are Left Uncovered by Health Law.” Largely because states controlled by Republicans refuse to expand Medicaid.

http://billmoyers.com/segment/bill-moyers-essay-shutdown-showdown/

The worst consequence of this "Uniquely American Solution" is that it has postponed the opportunity for REAL reform for another generation.

[JoePhilly]

6. Your last sentence ignores the prior generations, in which

we got nothing.

There had been no progress in DECADES, none, zip, nadda ... and yet here you claim that it is the ACA that will create some new delay.

What exactly was going to happen to suddenly jump us to the Utopia you envision?

[TBF]

7. There's gotta be a reason the pugs hate it so much -

I think it's because they know it's just a jump from everyone covered to single payer. I hope they are correct.

[Egalitarian Thug]

8. Excellent, right up to the last three sentences and you lost all support.

Pretending that we're either idiots or were born last night not only doesn't help, it bleeds support away. No matter how often you repeat this mythology, it will never be the truth.

[bhikkhu]

9. The last three sentences:

"Yes, we initially wanted single payer, and we had to compromise back in 2009 for the Affordable Care Act. But, it is a damn good piece of legislation that has already saved hundreds of thousands, if not millions of lives. So, let us not give up now. "

I don't disagree.

[TheKentuckian]

10. Who is we and who is we compromised with?

[bhikkhu]

11. "We" is democrats in general, who would support single-payer

and the republicans who were compromised with to get the bill through the house.

[TheKentuckian]

12. We got one vote in the House, it was from an outlier who got in because the Democrat was bust with a

freezer full of cash and placed no demands for his vote that wasn't absolutely required anyway. We got zero in the Senate and the Senate Bill is what passed.

We Democrats at no point in this process pushed single payer, it was not compromised with.

I ask again, who is this "we" and who did "we" compromise with? It wasn't TeaPubliKlans, they never bent a millimeter and when did Democrats push single payer to put it in position to be compromised from?