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Leonardo Da Vinci's wacky piano is heard for the first time, after 500 years (Original Post) graywarrior Nov 2013 OP
Wow, JimboBillyBubbaBob Nov 2013 #1
Very cool. NaturalHigh Nov 2013 #2
Interesting sound, sort of piano + harpsichord + organ sound ... n/t RKP5637 Nov 2013 #3
Wow, it sounds like a super-fast cello! mainer Nov 2013 #4
You nailed it! nt valerief Nov 2013 #11
beautiful instrument ... interesting sound ... I like it. Thanks, gw !! K&R Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2013 #5
The first synthesizer! Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #6
Cool! Doesn't sound like a piano but more like an entire orchestra emsimon33 Nov 2013 #7
Ok, this is really cool. JNelson6563 Nov 2013 #8
Amazing you can hear what sounds like many instruments playing together.. Historic NY Nov 2013 #9
K&R. Quite fascinating! Overseas Nov 2013 #10
Sounds like a string quartet treestar Nov 2013 #12
That's what I thought. secondvariety Nov 2013 #18
Thanks so much for sharing this! SleeplessinSoCal Nov 2013 #13
So Leonardo invented a sort of renaissance 'mellotron'! Ferretherder Nov 2013 #14
Shoot! FredStembottom Nov 2013 #29
Ya' got me, Fred... Ferretherder Nov 2013 #36
The Optigan was more a toy than a true instrument. FredStembottom Nov 2013 #41
Wow! How come I never heard of this? Ferretherder Nov 2013 #44
A 1970's item. FredStembottom Nov 2013 #48
Wow, again! This is fascinating stuff! Ferretherder Nov 2013 #52
Sorry to reply so late. FredStembottom Nov 2013 #54
You're good, Fred! Ferretherder Nov 2013 #58
Thanks! FredStembottom Nov 2013 #59
I have to admit that I don't know if Moraz was a devotee, or not. Ferretherder Dec 2013 #60
or a pre-computer MIDI. Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #42
Better adagio than allegro Warpy Nov 2013 #15
It probably can't sustain a note, so adagio would be hard mainer Nov 2013 #17
not like a harpsichord -- more like a bowed keyboard instrument 0rganism Nov 2013 #26
Very likely the opposite. FredStembottom Nov 2013 #31
Thanks for pointing that out 2naSalit Nov 2013 #38
This is a more controlled version... FredStembottom Nov 2013 #47
It sure is. 2naSalit Nov 2013 #53
As Mineral Man points out down thread... FredStembottom Nov 2013 #55
Me too 2naSalit Nov 2013 #57
Think... Ferretherder Nov 2013 #37
I thoroughly enjoyed the concert. Thanks so much for posting! QuestForSense Nov 2013 #16
Do classical gas!!! Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2013 #19
Oh! Mason Williams would love that, dontcha know! loudsue Nov 2013 #25
Probably would sound like it was written for this instument. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2013 #28
Wow. I think Class Gas FredStembottom Nov 2013 #32
Loved hearing it! stage left Nov 2013 #20
Excellent Tab Nov 2013 #21
Hard to see from this picture, but google it and see Leo's drawings and how it works. Hamlette Nov 2013 #22
K&R. JFA: trof Nov 2013 #23
JFA ! graywarrior Nov 2013 #24
Awesome! Totally Awesome! Hestia Nov 2013 #27
Indeed so. Most indeededly progressoid Nov 2013 #30
I'm speechless. What an amazing experience that was! loudsue Nov 2013 #33
Cool. beac Nov 2013 #34
Harpsichord meets hurdy-gurdy. Igel Nov 2013 #35
Totally awesome! 2naSalit Nov 2013 #39
I don't see what's so wacky about it. It's quite beautiful. nt nyquil_man Nov 2013 #40
Sure- Setting the standard until Einstein rewrote the rules of music with his Electric Violin. Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #43
Interesting. It's really just four hurdy-gurdy type instruments MineralMan Nov 2013 #45
The Winner! FredStembottom Nov 2013 #49
Incredible! Octafish Nov 2013 #46
Coolness! nt Tigress DEM Nov 2013 #50
One could while away a lot of time on that instrument. Beautiful. Hoyt Nov 2013 #51
K&R! Fun. KoKo Nov 2013 #56
The beatles could have used this Tabasco_Dave Dec 2013 #61

JNelson6563

(28,151 posts)
8. Ok, this is really cool.
Sun Nov 24, 2013, 05:47 PM
Nov 2013

Wow! I am amazed this gentleman, Mr. Zubrzycki, was able to build it! And it works! It's beautiful to see & listen to. What a great story.

To Mr. Zubrzycki!

Julie

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
9. Amazing you can hear what sounds like many instruments playing together..
Sun Nov 24, 2013, 06:02 PM
Nov 2013

that clever Leonardro, but even more the craftsman that made it.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,110 posts)
13. Thanks so much for sharing this!
Sun Nov 24, 2013, 06:20 PM
Nov 2013

Play a game with friends and play the sound and ask if they can identify the instrument. It sounds like several at once.

Ferretherder

(1,446 posts)
14. So Leonardo invented a sort of renaissance 'mellotron'!
Sun Nov 24, 2013, 06:29 PM
Nov 2013

That old dude was WAY ahead of his time! (ya' think...duh!)

Way cool that someone had the ingenuity and skill to build it, too! Sounds wonderful.

FredStembottom

(2,928 posts)
29. Shoot!
Sun Nov 24, 2013, 08:00 PM
Nov 2013
I was gonna compare it to a mellotron!

Ok... So I will call it the World's First Optigan, instead.

Take that, ferretherder!

FredStembottom

(2,928 posts)
41. The Optigan was more a toy than a true instrument.
Mon Nov 25, 2013, 02:42 AM
Nov 2013

It played samples of real instruments like the mellotron but these samples were on optical sound discs. A brilliant idea that should have been developed more, I think.

Ferretherder

(1,446 posts)
44. Wow! How come I never heard of this?
Mon Nov 25, 2013, 09:25 AM
Nov 2013

Cool demo. About what time period is this - I'm assuming its use of optical discs puts it in the 1990's/early 2000's, huh?

Anyway, thanks for the info!

FredStembottom

(2,928 posts)
48. A 1970's item.
Mon Nov 25, 2013, 12:15 PM
Nov 2013

Not that kind of optical. Not digital optical like came along in the 90's but old analog film optical sound from the 1930's.
It was too lo-fi for professional use and too expensive for a toy so they were only made a few years.
BTW they were actually made by Mattel toys.

Ferretherder

(1,446 posts)
52. Wow, again! This is fascinating stuff!
Mon Nov 25, 2013, 08:30 PM
Nov 2013

Still can't believe I never heard of it. Thanks much for the description.

By the way, I got a trivia question for you, Fred ole' boy...what is a 'Chamberlin'?

FredStembottom

(2,928 posts)
54. Sorry to reply so late.
Fri Nov 29, 2013, 01:02 PM
Nov 2013

Got caught up in holiday stuff.

A Chamberlain is a Mellotron competitor that was supposed to work quite a bit better. More reliable. Better sound, too.

Ferretherder

(1,446 posts)
58. You're good, Fred!
Sat Nov 30, 2013, 12:40 PM
Nov 2013

Actually, the Chamberlin (this is the correct spelling - looked it up!) was invented way back in the early 1950's! One of the 'salesmen' for the early tape-drive keyboards ran off to England with one of the instruments and shopped it around to the highest bidder as his OWN creation, that just needed a little better mechanics to be a really marketable keyboard instrument. A company took over the 'project' and the result was the Mellotron 400.

FredStembottom

(2,928 posts)
59. Thanks!
Sat Nov 30, 2013, 01:40 PM
Nov 2013

Didn't know the details you supplied.
At some point Chamberlins were available as their own product competing with the Mellotron. One of the prog rock keyboardists swore by them. Patrick Moraz, maybe?

Ferretherder

(1,446 posts)
60. I have to admit that I don't know if Moraz was a devotee, or not.
Sun Dec 1, 2013, 09:19 AM
Dec 2013

I do know that some prog-rock albums would list Chamberlins in the instrument credits, though.

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
15. Better adagio than allegro
Sun Nov 24, 2013, 06:31 PM
Nov 2013

and I can think of a lot of things I'd like to hear on it.

Then somebody brought a hammered dulcimer from China into the mix and the piano was born. Well, the harpsichord.

Still, it's interesting to think about what might have been written for this instrument had the idea not been replaced so quickly.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
17. It probably can't sustain a note, so adagio would be hard
Sun Nov 24, 2013, 06:48 PM
Nov 2013

if it's built like a harpsichord, it may be impossible to do more than pluck or hit a string for a short-term burst.

0rganism

(23,944 posts)
26. not like a harpsichord -- more like a bowed keyboard instrument
Sun Nov 24, 2013, 07:53 PM
Nov 2013

read the article, it's a very unique beast

FredStembottom

(2,928 posts)
31. Very likely the opposite.
Sun Nov 24, 2013, 08:02 PM
Nov 2013

The strings are bowed by spinning wheels so most likely can sustain indefinately.

Just sayin'

2naSalit

(86,536 posts)
38. Thanks for pointing that out
Sun Nov 24, 2013, 11:05 PM
Nov 2013

I wasn't sure about that. Instantly brought to mind the stringed instruments that are featured at the House on the Rock in Spring Green, WI that has several "rooms" of instruments that play themselves. The whirling bow technique is used on the stringed instruments.

This is an entirely different critter, but I love the sound.

2naSalit

(86,536 posts)
53. It sure is.
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 12:47 AM
Nov 2013

It's so amazing to think that this idea came to fore, so to speak, that long ago. I wonder what mechanism actually drives the whirling part of those rotating (I guess) bows. I think it's an instrument that deserves some publicity and future inclusion in orchestral, chamber and solo works. It's a marvelous sound, full and clean yet velvety. I certainly couldn't play one, not an instrumentalist but a musician all the same... I would love to see and hear much more of this instrument. I hope it catches on.

FredStembottom

(2,928 posts)
55. As Mineral Man points out down thread...
Fri Nov 29, 2013, 01:04 PM
Nov 2013

It's really 4 hurdy gurdys clamped together, basically.
Now I need to know if the hurdy gurdy was contemporary to DaVinci's time.

2naSalit

(86,536 posts)
57. Me too
Fri Nov 29, 2013, 11:27 PM
Nov 2013

but I also have to review the workings of hurdy gurdies! That has to wait for next week, I'm volunteering at a huge ski event this week, tomorrow's the last day and I'll be resting my sunburned face and eyes for a day or two before I spend too much time reading.

Ta ta for now,

2na.

QuestForSense

(653 posts)
16. I thoroughly enjoyed the concert. Thanks so much for posting!
Sun Nov 24, 2013, 06:42 PM
Nov 2013

The sound is exquisite. The instrument is capable of producing a wide variety of colors from tonal palette, and the inscription by St. Hildegard inside the lid is poetry of the highest order.

Igel

(35,300 posts)
35. Harpsichord meets hurdy-gurdy.
Sun Nov 24, 2013, 10:43 PM
Nov 2013

Or perhaps a clavichord meets hurdy-gurdy.

Sort of sounds like a bunch of viols. Hence "viola."

Sounds fairly equally tempered to my tin ear. Pity.

2naSalit

(86,536 posts)
39. Totally awesome!
Sun Nov 24, 2013, 11:07 PM
Nov 2013

Thanks for sharing that! It is truly a delight to hear... and to know that it was Da Vinci's design. Amazing.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
43. Sure- Setting the standard until Einstein rewrote the rules of music with his Electric Violin.
Mon Nov 25, 2013, 02:49 AM
Nov 2013

That, of course, was before he destroyed his brain sniffing drainpipes.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
45. Interesting. It's really just four hurdy-gurdy type instruments
Mon Nov 25, 2013, 10:29 AM
Nov 2013

played with a keyboard. The hurdy-gurdy existed in many forms. This one's very cool, and much more elaborate than smaller hurdy-gurdies.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurdy_gurdy

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
46. Incredible!
Mon Nov 25, 2013, 10:32 AM
Nov 2013

Thank you graywarrior. The sound it makes is like being with Da Vinci and hearing him speak again.

Tabasco_Dave

(1,259 posts)
61. The beatles could have used this
Sun Dec 1, 2013, 11:10 AM
Dec 2013

one of the reasons they stopped touring was because they needed a string section for songs like Eleanor Rigby.

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