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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTexas Police Officer Arrested For Handcuffing And Raping 19 Year Old At Traffic Stop
http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/david/texas-police-officer-arrested-handcuffingand surprisingly the police chief did NOT try to cover it up
At the time of the alleged assault, video cameras mounted in Neal's cruiser were not functioning because a hard drive was missing. However, a GPS tracking system did corroborate that the police cruiser was parked for 18 minutes on Betty Street as the woman had claimed.
At a press conference on Saturday, Police Chief William McManus said that Neal would have known the video recording system was not functioning in his cruiser.
I can't express in words how disappointed and angry I am about this. I am at a loss for words, McManus explained. I am outraged. This is a punch in the eye to the Police Department.
Neal was arrested by SAPD and Special Victims Unit detectives at around 2 a.m. on Saturday. The San Antonio Police Department asked the FBI to investigate possible civil rights violations in the case...
shenmue
(38,506 posts)Put this sonofabitch under the jail.
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)I know it means nothing, but that's my first impression.
Packerowner740
(676 posts)Savannahmann
(3,891 posts)Someone quick post that picture of the cop with the milk at Watertown.
tina tron
(160 posts)gopiscrap
(23,760 posts)because it's past it's pull date?
Riftaxe
(2,693 posts)bad apples too!
Likely to be guarded by bad apples as well, isn't dehumanization such a lovely thing!!! It must save you a hell of a lot of thinking.
gopiscrap
(23,760 posts)Last edited Mon Nov 25, 2013, 02:35 PM - Edit history (1)
cops do this every day and the only reason why it's newsworthy is because the chief, unlike most cops higher up, didn't try to hide it!
Ranchemp.
(1,991 posts)there are appox. 684,000 LEO's in the U.S. and the vast majority of them are honest individuals just trying to do a job and go home at the end of their watch to their families.
There are bad cops out there and dept. do try to cover up their screw ups, but to say that this POS is a typical cop is offensive to me and all the other honest LEO's out there.
fredamae
(4,458 posts)these minority LEO's? We are Afraid of All of them because WE have no way to tell "who's who".
I generally agree with you--but Every community has one or two....and we're on our Own with No defense for these crimes committed By them.
Ranchemp.
(1,991 posts)gopiscrap
(23,760 posts)Ranchemp.
(1,991 posts)gopiscrap
(23,760 posts)and there are getting to be more and more of them. There is a culture now of "us-vs-Them" rather than "we are the servants of the people" it builds a culture in the departments of anti-civilian. To give you an example in Tacoma, Washington the police chief there was promoted through the ranks despite failing a psychological and having numerous red flags on his file. What happened, he went and shot his wife in front of his kids in a crowded supermarket parking lot. Not much was said by the cops about it. Every day there are stories about cops beating up on folks or shooting them and it gets white washed.
ryan_cats
(2,061 posts)I'm tired of hearing, "They just want to go home alive".
Does that mean it's OK to shoot a dog or into a car full of kids? What about the thugs in badges that try to get people to submit to a search for no reason.
The police state is here and we let it happen. This will end badly.
Ranchemp.
(1,991 posts)my statement holds true, the vast majority of cops in this country are not like this POS.
lame54
(35,287 posts)but they won't rat them out
and that's hypocritical and illegal
Ranchemp.
(1,991 posts)but look at what happens when cops rat out other cops, the most famous example being Frank Serpico.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Serpico
lame54
(35,287 posts)why don't the good ones band together and kick them out
after all it is their job to stop crimes
Ranchemp.
(1,991 posts)it's become an us vs. them with cops, it's sad, it's tragic, but there it is.
BTW, that's not my attitude, as with the rest of my colleagues, we rarely come in contact with the general public, our profession is hunting down the most dangerous fugitives and bring them to justice
lame54
(35,287 posts)lame54
(35,287 posts)look around the station. you'll find some criminals
Ranchemp.
(1,991 posts)The federal system is much less forgiving on bad or criminal behavior than the state/local system.
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)Gravitycollapse
(8,155 posts)Ranchemp.
(1,991 posts)Last edited Tue Nov 26, 2013, 03:08 AM - Edit history (2)
My team hunts the baddest of the bad and bring the fugitives to justice.
Very rarely have we had to resort to extreme measures to apprehend our target.
Gravitycollapse
(8,155 posts)Ranchemp.
(1,991 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)they don't police their own ranks, they just circle wagons when one gets in trouble.
ryan_cats
(2,061 posts)Stay classy
I'm tired of hearing about jack booted thugs in uniform. How many innocent dogs have to die? How many cars have to be shot at. If you take this personally, then good! Maybe you can influence your peers but I doubt it since you think all JBT are OK. I hate to break Goddard's law but this sounds just like the 'good nazi' defense.
gopiscrap
(23,760 posts)"The police state is here and we let it happen. This will end badly."
Very well said and true.
Your posts on this are right on. Thank you.
Cops will attempt to cover up bad behavior 100 per cent of the time.
Ranchemp.
(1,991 posts)but my statement stands, the vast majority of cops in this country are honest cops.
tina tron
(160 posts)They are all corrupt crooks.
Ranchemp.
(1,991 posts)tina tron
(160 posts)gopiscrap
(23,760 posts)Ranchemp.
(1,991 posts)They are all corrupt crooks.
And, once again, the vast majority of cops are honest and just trying to do a difficult job.
kristopher
(29,798 posts)Makes them crooks too.
Laffy Kat
(16,377 posts)My son is an aspiring cop. He is a feminist and deplores racism and cruelty. We need more like him, AND YOU.
Ranchemp.
(1,991 posts)Tell your son good luck and god speed.
Laffy Kat
(16,377 posts)Ranchemp.
(1,991 posts)he might consider a career in the U.S. Marshals Service, I've got 40+ years is this hallowed organization, all of it memorable, most of it rewarding.
Float the idea by him and I can give some pointers on what's expected and required of him.
DiverDave
(4,886 posts)that nobody 'snitches' or the next time you call for back-up you get none.
EVERY god damned cop covers up shit.
But of course there are those that could give a shit if they just look the other way.
A COP told me that and I believe him.
Ranchemp.
(1,991 posts)EOTE
(13,409 posts)doesn't it? For every one Serpico you find, you'll find a good several hundred incidences where cops do some truly egregious and illegal shit and their PD covers for them.
DiverDave
(4,886 posts)not their bosses, altho I would bet it is just as high a %.
Wanna go home tonite?, then dont tell about the 14yr old getting his ass beat.
It happens every day in every PD
gopiscrap
(23,760 posts)EOTE
(13,409 posts)would be in jail. That's simply not the case and not even close to it. Bad cops rarely ever go to jail and that's because all those other "good" cops let them get away with their crimes. So there are far less "good" cops out there than many claim. The good cops are the ones that send the bad cops to jail, those good cops barely exist.
Ranchemp.
(1,991 posts)Have a good day.
EOTE
(13,409 posts)I'm supposed to take your completely unsourced jibberish as "facts"? Good luck there, champ.
Ranchemp.
(1,991 posts)meanwhile, I live in the real world.
Go ahead and have the last word because I'll no longer respond to you.
EOTE
(13,409 posts)Again, you ARE aware that when you babble on about some nonsense, that does not equate to facts, right? Issues which are not part of consensus reality need to be backed up with at least a modicum of evidence to back them up, and once again, some internet rando spouting off nonsense does not equate to either "evidence" or "facts". In fact, it's about as far from possible from either.
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)Ranchemp.
(1,991 posts)but my statement stands.
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)gopiscrap
(23,760 posts)gopiscrap
(23,760 posts)tina tron
(160 posts)avebury
(10,952 posts)bad apple (or bad bunch) in a city/town PD and the good guys fail to take a stand against the bad guys then they are not in fact good guys.
Ranchemp.
(1,991 posts)and I use the example of NYPD detective Frank Serpico, there is enormous pressure from line officers and upper management to cover up a bad cops actions, and if you don't go along, bad things can and do happen, it isn't right, but that's the fact of life.
FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)Ranchemp.
(1,991 posts)Tigress DEM
(7,887 posts)I want EVERY bad cop out of there. But I know there are good cops too.
Problem is getting the bad ones out.
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)Or "accidents" in which the LEO was obviously at fault. Or drinking and going to strip clubs while on duty ( like it happened recently in Tampa, and the cop got reinstated)
You know, you can't have a cake and eat it too.
delete_bush
(1,712 posts)molests a child, the same poster will be on here calling him a "typical fucking teacher".
After all, we should teach our children to be AFRAID of ALL teachers.
Ranchemp.
(1,991 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)I would bet good money that is not the first time he raped someone.
Gravitycollapse
(8,155 posts)The role of the police officer is to naturally assert his or her authority upon innocent individuals. That is not a position very many good people look forward to.
Ranchemp.
(1,991 posts)but I can pretty well guarantee that the police union will get involved and try to get the charges dropped and the cop re-instated.
madrchsod
(58,162 posts)this is a criminal matter and they have absolutely no standing after this cop was formally charged with the crime.
but thanks for dragging up the old union hating talking point.
Ranchemp.
(1,991 posts)but too many times in the past, the police union has gotten a bad cop re-instated.
BTW, this cop hasn't been formally charged yet, he's still being paid.
madrchsod
(58,162 posts)i guess i`d better pay attention. the guy paid his dues and is entitled for help from the union.
my wife is a sec-treasure of her public/private sector union. there`s been times they did`t want to help someone they
knew was guilty but that`s their job.
RKP5637
(67,108 posts)going to handcuff them and rape them and there was nothing they could do about it ... nothing came of it, but it was crap the two cops were spewing as they gave them a traffic ticket. I guess they just assumed they were gay.
JimboBillyBubbaBob
(1,389 posts)off with his nads!
MissMillie
(38,556 posts)that's unconscionable
Ranchemp.
(1,991 posts)then he loses his salary.
jsr
(7,712 posts)sakabatou
(42,152 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)If COPS want respect, then they have to self police. Otherwise why the fuck would any of us trust them to be police?
"Neal was suspended for three days in September for dating an 18-year-old member of the San Antonio Police Explorers, a program for young people interested in a career in law enforcement, the Express-News reported"
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/san-antonio-cuffed-raped-19-year-old-traffic-stop-police-article-1.1527459#ixzz2lgobKjeV
UM>>>HELLO!!!! 11 year veteran of the force dates 18 year old girl. RED FLAGS? No guess not. Unfuckingbelievable!
YAY COPS!
FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)He asked her out and when she refused he arrested her
sakabatou
(42,152 posts)jsr
(7,712 posts)Ranchemp.
(1,991 posts)ryan_cats
(2,061 posts)That video has to be fake. All the jack booted thugs are choirboys.
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)He couldn't have pulled that shit in bars I go to and walked out on his own power.
Logical
(22,457 posts)What the hell, how can COPS not notice there is a monster in their own den? I bet good money that is not his first rape as a cop.
Avalux
(35,015 posts)but at that time his victim refused to cooperate with police. They finally got the asshole. I live in SA and this story has been all over the news.
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)A hospital after her assault for a rape kit?
Avalux
(35,015 posts)but I do know she isn't backing down, and the police chief's words are very damning against Neal, so they probably have evidence. He is asking that the woman who accused Neal before to come forward now and help. Oh - and Neal, a former marine, had also been previously suspended for 'dating' an 18 year old police recruit. Scum.
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)Self police? I guess not. SAPD has a lot of x'splaining to do.
tblue
(16,350 posts)Lock this mofo up!
Dash87
(3,220 posts)"make the charges go away." There won't be justice until this piece of shit is in jail.
rdking647
(5,113 posts)before tossing him into prison in the general population. im sure they wouldlove an ex cop
Madmiddle
(459 posts)Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)He ended up getting a nice long prison sentence, 87 years. I feel really bad for his wife who is also an officer.
http://www.adn.com/2012/04/13/2422003/rollins-sentenced-to-87-years.html
tblue
(16,350 posts)My gosh that is so gross! Please let him be found guilty.
Skittles
(153,160 posts)the police department has put out the word seeking other possible victims
Conium
(119 posts)Timothy Young had just turned into a gas station in Lordsburg, N.M., at 10 p.m. and was about to fill up his pickup truck when several police cars pulled up behind him. The officers from the Hidalgo County Sheriffs Office accused him of failing to use his turn signal, and asked him whether he was using or carrying drugs.
According to a complaint filed Friday in a federal court in New Mexico, what happened next in the October 2012 incident was nothing short of a six-hour nightmare. Young, 31, was forced to strip from the waist down in a public parking lot and then submit his body to an X-ray and anal penetration at a nearby hospital, all under the supervision of peace officers searching for contraband.
http://news.yahoo.com/police-turn-routine-traffic-stops-into-cavity-searches-201433510.html
Texas state troopers caught on camera probing women's privates aren't isolated incidents: lawyers
Multiple highway patrol officers in Texas have been captured by dash cams doing 'unconstitutional' cavity searches on women's genitals during traffic stops. Lawyers and civil rights advocates say the 'mind-boggling' searches are all too common.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/troopers-texas-probe-genitals-women-traffic-stops-article-1.1414668
Threedifferentones
(1,070 posts)hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)SAFFE stands for "San Antonians for a Fear Free Environment". (Ironic, isn't it???!!) These officers are assigned to specific neighborhoods and are supposed to be available for residents to call should there by problems in the neighborhood. The program is designed to prevent problems between neighbors, etc.
I know this because I live in one of the neighborhoods where he was assigned. As far as I know, he did a very good job as SAFFE officer, but hearing this about him made me sick to my stomach. He could very well have been using his authority to intimidate young women in the neighborhood.
According to another news report that I've seen, another woman reported Neal back in September for the same thing, but then failed to cooperate with the investigation.
Chief McManus has his detractors, but I (as a resident of San Antonio) am a big fan. He doesn't put up with much bull shit.
damnedifIknow
(3,183 posts)"Police Chief William McManus said a different woman made a similar complaint against Neal a few years ago. The date of that incident was not immediately available. McManus said that woman later refused to cooperate in a police investigation, so it wasnt pursued. There were no consequences for Neal at the time.
McManus said he has asked officers to go back to that woman to see if she would be willing to help in the new investigation.
Neal was suspended in September for three days for dating an 18-year-old member of the Police Explorer program about two years ago.
The program is meant to encourage young people to consider a career in law enforcement. Officers are forbidden from fraternizing with members of the program for people 14 to 21 years old. "