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Something does not add up.... (Original Post) Playinghardball Nov 2013 OP
Yes, more people need to see this...k and r..nt Stuart G Nov 2013 #1
k&r pscot Nov 2013 #2
This needs to be talked about when folks LuckyLib Nov 2013 #3
$38,000? progressoid Nov 2013 #4
Funny how the Cons don't want to apply WowSeriously Nov 2013 #5
certainly pisses me off hfojvt Nov 2013 #13
I read it's per household. OnionPatch Nov 2013 #14
Not only does it not add up! madashelltoo Nov 2013 #6
K&R! JNelson6563 Nov 2013 #7
K&R ReRe Nov 2013 #8
Let's look at some numbers passiveporcupine Nov 2013 #9
I especially wanted to point to this from the second link. passiveporcupine Nov 2013 #10
Wow! Just wow! Kicked and recommended, baby! Enthusiast Nov 2013 #11
That's not really a fair picture. rhett o rick Nov 2013 #12
Savvy! blkmusclmachine Nov 2013 #15

LuckyLib

(6,817 posts)
3. This needs to be talked about when folks
Mon Nov 25, 2013, 10:58 PM
Nov 2013

claim immigrants are a tax burden. Clean up corporate and religious welfare and we'll talk about it.

progressoid

(49,951 posts)
4. $38,000?
Mon Nov 25, 2013, 11:13 PM
Nov 2013

That number would actually piss off a lot of Americans.

Overall, "…average earnings ranged from $18,900 for high school dropouts to $25,900 for high school graduates, $45,400 for college graduates and $99,300 for workers with professional degrees...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_income_in_the_United_States


While I agree with the sentiment, I think teabaggers would use the 38K number as an argument to keep them out ("they're taking our jobs!!1&quot .

 

WowSeriously

(343 posts)
5. Funny how the Cons don't want to apply
Mon Nov 25, 2013, 11:40 PM
Nov 2013

Supply and demand, you know, MARKET FORCES, to the "immigration problem". Eliminate the demand (corporate citizen criminals) and the supply will will dry up.

OnionPatch

(6,169 posts)
14. I read it's per household.
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 07:04 PM
Nov 2013

And typically their households contain more than one worker. (Found this at pewhispanics.org).

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
9. Let's look at some numbers
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 12:19 AM
Nov 2013
the $11.2 billion in taxes paid by illegal immigrants in 2010 included $8.4 billion in sales taxes, $1.6 billion in property taxes and $1.2 billion in state personal income taxes.


While California may have realized $2.7 billion from taxes paid by illegal immigrants in 2010, a 2004 report by the Federation for American Immigration Reform showed that California spends over $10.5 billion annually on the education, health care and incarceration of its illegal immigrant population.


I am for immigration reform, because it will cost us less to have them here as legal citizens making at least minimum wage. 1.4 Billion of Cali's money goes toward health care and the same amount toward incarceration of illegals. And 30K is very low income for a family in Cali. Wouldn't it make more sense to make them legal and let them buy Obamacare and participate in the economy fully?

This info came from:
http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/incometaxandtheirs/a/Illegal-Immigrants-Pay-Taxes-Too.htm

which linked to this article:
http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/immigrationnaturalizatio/a/caillegals.htm

Both extremely informative articles.

Oh, and BTW, that is median household income (36K), not individual income.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
10. I especially wanted to point to this from the second link.
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 12:26 AM
Nov 2013
"Nothing could more starkly illustrate the very high costs of ‘cheap labor' than California's current situation," continued Stein. "A small number of powerful interests in the state reap the benefits, while the average native-born family in California gets handed a nearly $1,200 a year bill."
 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
12. That's not really a fair picture.
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 05:31 PM
Nov 2013

They left out GE's political expenses to buy Congress-critters. I bet the undocumented immigrants dont have to pay that.

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