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After a gay server at a New Jersey restaurant said a customer denied her a tip and wrote her a hateful note on the receipt, a local family contacted NBC 4 New York and said their receipt shows they paid a tip and didn't write any such note.
Dayna Morales, a former Marine and a server at Gallop Asian Bistro in Bridgewater, posted a photo on Facebook earlier this month, showing the bill with a line through the space for a tip. The photo of the receipt showed someone had written, "I'm sorry but I cannot tip because I do not agree with your lifestyle."
Morales indicated in her Facebook post, and in subsequent media interviews -- including with NBC 4 New York -- that the customer wrote that line.
But a family contacted NBC 4 New York claiming their receipt from the restaurant shows they did leave a tip, and provided what they said was a credit card statement as proof.
The husband and wife, who asked to remain anonymous, showed NBC 4 New York a receipt that appeared to be printed at the same minute, on the same date, for the same $93.55 total, except with an $18 tip.
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http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/11/26/21625339-family-disputes-gay-servers-story?lite
cali
(114,904 posts)and these people may well have been falsely accused.
el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)Even if it didn't happen in this case.
Bryant
el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)B2G
(9,766 posts)Hassin Bin Sober
(26,324 posts)B2G
(9,766 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)to see if the amount charged was 93.55 or 111.55. The family could have written in the $18 afterwards to get back at the young woman and try to make people think she's lying. (I do that sometimes when leaving restaurant - I write in the tip on the copy I hand to the restaurant, and then don't on my copy until I get back home...)
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)HappyMe
(20,277 posts)Good grief, as if the lgbt community doesn't have a hard enough time with ..... everything.. as it is.
This is just not cool for her to have done, especially since she had to know that it could be disproved.
Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)All they had to do was save their copy of the receipt (which typically has nothing written on it) and then add a bogus tip and total after-the-fact. People have being doing this to inflate their expense accounts for years.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)Didn't read the story the whole way through.
It really does seem a little peculiar.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)It's really unfortunate. This stuff happens, but now everybody on Fox News will says that it's always a hoax.
snooper2
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Ranchemp.
(1,991 posts)Methinks that this waitress has some splaining to do.
former9thward
(31,974 posts)Almost everyone of them has turned out to be false or photoshopped. I'll bet that is the case here.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)I can't imagine that she got into that kind of detail in conversation her customers. I don't typically have any idea of the sexual orientation of the server when I dine out.
cbdo2007
(9,213 posts)last1standing
(11,709 posts)Leaving aside the comment, which could have been easily written in after the fact, there is no tip listed on the Merchant Copy of the receipt. This is rather problematic as it means one of two things:
1). The customer wrote the tip on only the Customer Copy. While this is the easiest answer, it doesn't account for the billing statement showing an $18.00 tip.
2). The waitress, or someone else in the restaurant, created a new copy of the receipt which was then filled in with homophobic comments to create this stir.
I haven't seen proof that a tip was actually left but if the customer is willing to show the CC statement, which it sounds like they have done, things begin to point to a manipulation of the receipt.
So the final question becomes whether the waitress did it looking for attention or whether a co-worker did it as a way to harass the waitress?
I won't make any guesses as to what happened till the proof comes out but it does appear that someone has manipulated a document or two.
B2G
(9,766 posts)last1standing
(11,709 posts)It certainly wouldn't be the first time someone has pulled this kind of stunt for fame and money (see balloon boy scandal) but I'll wait to see the facts before judging.
seveneyes
(4,631 posts)Assuming she is guilty of faking the note, that would be a reason to doubt her honesty. This whole episode could cause a lot more harm than good.
last1standing
(11,709 posts)If it is found that she, versus a co-worker or the customer, is the guilty party, then I will be willing to assume she did it for the money or attention.
The problem I see is that if it's found that she's an innocent party here, most of those "assuming" her guilt will fade away and never admit they were wrong. They'll merely move on to the next issue and restart the "assuming she's guilty" bit.
Personally, I'd like to wait till all the facts come out.
cali
(114,904 posts)holds true for all those that made assumptions about the guilt of the patrons.
last1standing
(11,709 posts)Also, "reasonable doubt" is best decided after all the fact are presented, not before.
Glassunion
(10,201 posts)"Morales said she plans to send a portion of her new tips to the Wounded Warriors Project."
http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Gay-Restaurant-Server-Stiffed-Tip-Customer-Do-Not-Agree-Lifestyle-231998211.html
blogslut
(37,997 posts)That perhaps the waitress has an enemy coworker. Maybe a cashier?
last1standing
(11,709 posts)I really don't know the facts yet, and neither do those rushing to condemn this woman. She may be guilty but no one here knows that.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)This story prompted me to check some receipts I was just going through for my monthly expense report.
The slips they bring you back to sign and insert a tip come to you AFTER they've run your card. So, the approval for the base amount is on there as is an approval code.
BUT NOT THE TIP.
In the end, the customer billing statement is good evidence, but the vendor also has access to evidence in their transaction records.
Also, I've often been given three slips, not sure why, but I suspect SOMEONE doctored one of the merchant slips or printed a second one.
last1standing
(11,709 posts)As I suggested above, this may end up being another balloon boy scandal. Personally, I don't know whether I hope someone forged the receipt or whether I hope the family stiffed the waitress. Both possibilities are rather sad.
Trekologer
(997 posts)The reason being you don't want to have the pre-tip amount approved but with tip declined. Similarly, gas stations will pre-approve around $50 and hotels will pre-approve the room rate plus an additional amount for incidental expenses, which is why most post a warning about using a debit card.
Many credit card online account portals will list these pending transactions. However, the image of the account statement appears to be a finalized one.
tammywammy
(26,582 posts)I don't know what the server's motivation would be, since the family could just show the credit card statement and disprove the accusation. But then again, the clarification and truth won't get nearly as much media attention as the original false accusation.
Also, I've noticed with a lot of these restaurant receipt stories, people send in donations, I wonder if the server wanted to just cash in.
JVS
(61,935 posts)I think a possible motivation for this would be that similar instances have resulted in the story going viral and small donations from the internet adding up into thousands of dollars.
BlueCheese
(2,522 posts)... my guess would be the server assumed that with the receipt blurred out, the actual customers wouldn't ever figure out it was their receipt.
Dash87
(3,220 posts)I'm not saying this isn't real, but it's not unthinkable that someone would take advantage of others' kindness. It's well known that stories like this cause a lot of donations from around the world.
Skip Intro
(19,768 posts)Accusations do not equal proof.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)on her receipt by a customer.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/red-lobster-waitress-10-000-donation-racist-fiasco-article-1.1482113
But subsequent handwriting analysis suggested that the racial slur was not in the handwriting of either the customer or his wife.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/red-lobster-customer-claims-racist-bad-tipper-article-1.1490962
I'm not accusing anyone of anything but in these days of sympathetic folks donating thousands of dollars to apparent victims of prejudice there is certainly an incentive for shenanigans.
cali
(114,904 posts)I don't see that one is any morally superior than the other.
The evidence leads me to believe the patrons did not write the note and did leave a tip. Also, in this day and age of instant backlash, who the hell leaves a bigoted note with their personal information and a signature? Why not just post a bulls eye on your back?
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)Marr
(20,317 posts)Ranchemp.
(1,991 posts)"Good evening, I'll be your gay waitress, may I take your order?"
Somehow, I just don't see this happening.
Chan790
(20,176 posts)I've had customers assume, to the extent that they felt comfortable commenting on it...on account of my speech impediment (I'm hard-of-hearing and slightly stutter and trip/lisp over words.) and the fact that I'm effete in mannerisms. I've been called f*gg*t before by customers too. I've also been called a {black person, except they used a word beginning with n and ending with r.}...which is strange because I'm Scottish, Native American and Syrian: I don't even look black...possibly Hispanic, but not black. I'm categorically beige...most often people think I'm Mediterranean of some sort: Spanish, Italian, Greek, Moroccan, etc.
You have clearly never worked in a public-facing position if you think clients and customers never make assumptions on your sexuality or other personal traits based on observation and intuition, faulty or otherwise. They don't have to know you're gay...to "know" you're gay. You don't have to be *anything* to draw the attentions, ire and invective of morons for that matter.
Skip Intro
(19,768 posts)Glassunion
(10,201 posts)I'm leaning towards the feeling that the waitress hoaxed this.
That said, if the couple did say and write that on the receipt, it is absolutely horrible of them. If they did no such thing and the receipt was faked, that is absolutely horrible of the waitress.
Why I feel that the waitress faked it.
1. The handwriting on the receipts is different. In fact the merchant copy with the offensive message on it was written by a right handed person. The customer copy was written by a left handed person. You can tell by the slash where the tip should be, and the tops of the 5's on the merchant copy. They go left to right, however the tops of the 5's on the customer copy head in the other direction.
2. They did supply their credit card receipt, and their card was charged an additional 19.24% or an even $18.00.
I hope the truth comes out either way, as whoever was falsely accused should be vindicated.
BlueCheese
(2,522 posts)... where the customer stuck a severed finger into the chili at a restaurant and looked to cash in.
If so, I guess I'll be relieved that there wasn't really a hateful customer out there who wrote the note. On the other hand, if it turns out to be a bid for sympathy and money, well, it's not good to play with serious issues of prejudice and give the genuinely bigoted any ammunition.