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kpete

(72,902 posts)
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 10:56 AM Dec 2011

COVER OF TIME Magazine's "Person of the Year" vs. Original Photograph. Note the Glaring Difference?



The image on TIME's cover – in which the 99% is unmistakably absent – is based on a photo of Sarah Mason, a 25-year-old Occupy L.A. activist (and art gallery worker) who was photographed by LA Weekly's Ted Soqui as she stood in a line, arms linked, during a November 17 protest at Bank of America Plaza.

The original image, with a vinegar-soaked 99% bandana masking Mason's face, her eyes focused and determined as she protests corporate greed, has unmistakable intensity and meaning. However, on TIME's cover, she is reduced to a generic, hybrid graphic that fails to invoke passions precisely because it lacks the specificity of place, the specificity of time, the specificity of motivation, of a cause.

In short, it lacks the 99 percent.

the rest:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/12/18/1046730/-Cover-for-TIME-Magazines-Person-of-the-Year-vs-Original-Photograph-Note-the-Glaring-Difference?via=siderec
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COVER OF TIME Magazine's "Person of the Year" vs. Original Photograph. Note the Glaring Difference? (Original Post) kpete Dec 2011 OP
They also darkened the eyes and the area around the eyes to make her look different LiberalEsto Dec 2011 #1
Who is "They"?...nt SidDithers Dec 2011 #18
The editors at Time. Zoeisright Dec 2011 #24
They darkened all the shadows and folds, like under her chin area where the bandana is... snooper2 Dec 2011 #65
We are lied to every day in every possible way. Our impressions are shaped ThomWV Dec 2011 #2
Well stated. Octafish Dec 2011 #62
If you look at the cover, you'll note that they're talking about MineralMan Dec 2011 #3
My thoughts exactly Amaril Dec 2011 #5
Of course you wouldn't. GeorgeGist Dec 2011 #6
Some would call it art ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2011 #16
I'm not sure what you are trying to say. MineralMan Dec 2011 #19
Depends on if you own rights to the photo hootinholler Dec 2011 #48
I love the cover. I think it's beautiful. CrispyQ Dec 2011 #10
The internationalized the image treestar Dec 2011 #11
By using only one person and changing that person from American to Muslim (illustion) they are peacetalksforall Dec 2011 #20
I didn't see the image as representing a Muslim MineralMan Dec 2011 #21
They took a photo of an American girl and made her look Arabic, peacetalksforall Dec 2011 #63
No. They posterized a photo of a woman. MineralMan Dec 2011 #64
No. They changed her outfit -hiding her exposed skin, darkened her coloring, made her look angrier bettyellen Dec 2011 #66
"From American to Muslim"? aquart Dec 2011 #37
to be honest, I noticed they covered up her skin and felt it was for just that reason bettyellen Dec 2011 #57
This message was self-deleted by its author Obamanaut Dec 2011 #43
The original mask looks like muslin to me hootinholler Dec 2011 #49
:) pinboy3niner Dec 2011 #51
Label me a purist hootinholler Dec 2011 #55
So wearing a beanie makes me a Muslim? cherokeeprogressive Dec 2011 #50
they kept the beanie, but covered up her skin. and made her darker and angrier looking bettyellen Dec 2011 #61
I'm afraid I don't see what you're talking about in reference to her brow. cherokeeprogressive Dec 2011 #67
you don't see- the angle and length of the brows are more extreme. which gives a more sinister look bettyellen Dec 2011 #71
I agree on all counts and I would wager that for every person reading the article, a hundred or Uncle Joe Dec 2011 #73
and editors are very aware of this, yep. and most of us here wouldn't be swayed but conservative bettyellen Dec 2011 #77
Trying to keep OWS out of it and really making the person more "Terrorist-like". Thank you for Justice wanted Dec 2011 #4
Whatever the intention was, the result is as you stated - to make the LibDemAlways Dec 2011 #8
+1 Adsos Letter Dec 2011 #28
it mentions OWS right on the cover.... spanone Dec 2011 #9
yes in very small letters where as the picture of the girl the drawing came from had 99% on her Justice wanted Dec 2011 #25
+1 Adsos Letter Dec 2011 #29
I agree. Major Hogwash Dec 2011 #45
Why don't you ask Shepard Fairey about the cover?... SidDithers Dec 2011 #7
Warhol is exactly who I thought of ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2011 #17
I wonder if Fairey really meant LiberalEsto Dec 2011 #26
"...who would come across as serious, but not scary." Adsos Letter Dec 2011 #30
I agree it's scarier than the original and all highlighted on a blood red background. Uncle Joe Dec 2011 #32
It's art... SidDithers Dec 2011 #40
The demeanor comes across as more sinister and threatening. Adsos Letter Dec 2011 #42
no, it's graphic art done to spec. the editors would decide if the 99% remains bettyellen Dec 2011 #58
Prove it... SidDithers Dec 2011 #59
In publishing the artists do not ever get the last say. Not my fault if you assumed otherwise bettyellen Dec 2011 #60
Fer chrissakes, it's TIME! May as well criticize Juggs for showing naked breasts. saras Dec 2011 #12
.... DeSwiss Dec 2011 #13
Seriously. Not a good mag by a moonshot. NuttyFluffers Dec 2011 #56
Seriously? This is bullshit criticism. Schema Thing Dec 2011 #14
They are playing on the fear of terrorism. Corporate media, especially Lint Head Dec 2011 #15
Kind of takes most of the meat out of the stew. Zorra Dec 2011 #22
They darkened her eyes to make her look like one of them kestrel91316 Dec 2011 #23
Yet another reason I Carolina Dec 2011 #27
Kick for the exposure of photographic manipulation by a major news corporation &R (nt) T S Justly Dec 2011 #31
Shepard Fairey hates OWS!!!... SidDithers Dec 2011 #33
Oh ... T S Justly Dec 2011 #34
No, he doesn't. You don't remember the redo of his famous Obama HOPE poster? SidDithers Dec 2011 #39
No, Time Magazine hates the OWS movement, Shepard Fairey was just hired by them to do the cover. Uncle Joe Dec 2011 #35
it mentions OWS right on the cover of the mag. spanone Dec 2011 #36
On a scarier depiction than the original pic as Adsos Letter observed Uncle Joe Dec 2011 #38
Shepard Fairey, the artist, is a huge supporter of OWS... SidDithers Dec 2011 #41
I'm not disputing that, it's not a question of the artist's support, it's a question of Uncle Joe Dec 2011 #47
Probably because they want to signify global protesters AtomicKitten Dec 2011 #44
Good god. Much ado about nothing. progressoid Dec 2011 #46
Time = We alter the news to fit our narrative slay Dec 2011 #52
Yes I do.... I prefer the original to the modified striped away 99%... midnight Dec 2011 #53
What I take away from this post is someone's angry because they don't think OWS big enough "props". cherokeeprogressive Dec 2011 #54
um no... it was deliberately left out not to give the attention to OWS fascisthunter Dec 2011 #69
Of course it was left out. Time and Newsweek Rex Dec 2011 #76
That was No Accident fascisthunter Dec 2011 #68
I posterized a pic of my (86yo) Mom. blaze Dec 2011 #70
Nice drawing. Very appropriate. Could be American, Greek, Spanish, Egyptian, Tunisian, Libyan, etc. Prometheus Bound Dec 2011 #72
Well OF COURSE they had to take the 99% off! Rex Dec 2011 #74
Not to mention the exposed skin around the neck as was observed upthread. n/t Uncle Joe Dec 2011 #75
It is not about OWS specifically and there is anger Spike89 Dec 2011 #78
They took an image specifically from OWS and manipulated it with an obvious sinister bent from the Uncle Joe Dec 2011 #79
 

LiberalEsto

(22,845 posts)
1. They also darkened the eyes and the area around the eyes to make her look different
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 10:59 AM
Dec 2011

perhaps Middle Eastern?

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
65. They darkened all the shadows and folds, like under her chin area where the bandana is...
Tue Dec 20, 2011, 12:38 PM
Dec 2011

not everything is a "conspiracy" FYI

 

ThomWV

(19,841 posts)
2. We are lied to every day in every possible way. Our impressions are shaped
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 11:03 AM
Dec 2011

and at all times our activities are monitored.

MineralMan

(151,269 posts)
3. If you look at the cover, you'll note that they're talking about
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 11:05 AM
Dec 2011

all protesters, starting with the Arab Spring protesters. So, they photoshopped the image to remove specifics from it. They also posterized the image, which altered the colors and dramatized the photo.

They weren't just focusing on the OWS protests, but presenting an image of protesters everywhere.

I don't think they were trying to minimize anything. Instead, they were broadening an image of a specific protester in a specific place to include all protests, worldwide. I don't see anything nefarious here.

Amaril

(1,267 posts)
5. My thoughts exactly
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 11:13 AM
Dec 2011

The image represents "The Protestor" -- a figure that is devoid of race, national origin and even gender. It is meant to represent all who have the courage to stand up for what they believe in.

I think Time's choice to erase the 99% was a good one. OWS is avitally important movement, but there are multiple movements in multiple countries around the world that are just as important and deserve equal recognition.

CrispyQ

(40,970 posts)
10. I love the cover. I think it's beautiful.
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 11:31 AM
Dec 2011

Last edited Mon Dec 19, 2011, 03:06 PM - Edit history (1)

I love the street scenes depicted in the red background. I love the anonymous feel of the protestor. Male? Female? Nationality? It signifies a global movement to me - which is what's needed.

on edit: I love the words:

From the Arab Spring to Athens
From Occupy Wall Street to Moscow

treestar

(82,383 posts)
11. The internationalized the image
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 11:32 AM
Dec 2011

That's what I thought - seeing only the cover at first, it seemed to focus on the Arab protests - which did have the effect of bringing down a government in Egypt, so that protestor deserves the focus.

 

peacetalksforall

(20,291 posts)
20. By using only one person and changing that person from American to Muslim (illustion) they are
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 12:03 PM
Dec 2011

perpetuating right wing discomfort for left wing protesters.

They could have done something that protesters could be proud of.

It is not a genuine act. It disgusted me when I found out.

Time could have used 99 small photos on the cover from all the places where there are protests which
could have also been art photography layout.

My low opinion of them plunged.

MineralMan

(151,269 posts)
21. I didn't see the image as representing a Muslim
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 12:17 PM
Dec 2011

at all. In fact, I don't see any particular religious or racial characteristics in it. I'm not sure where you're finding them.

 

peacetalksforall

(20,291 posts)
63. They took a photo of an American girl and made her look Arabic,
Tue Dec 20, 2011, 12:21 PM
Dec 2011

terrorist, non-terrorist, or representative of a Muslim girl who is required to wear face and hair covering.

Time is part of The New World Order group. They are part of the corporate media facilitators of the New World Order. They are not about honoring protesters, imo..

The photo shop artist said that he wanted a propaganda look.

They couldn't be plain American for an American magazine. They couldn't be straight. The couldn't just show the girl as is because they would have to pay her, name/provide cover credit to her? I am very negative about the role they play today.

My disrespect is for the magazine and all that it has come to stand for in spreading the corporate military complex culture. I have nothing against Muslims, Arabs, Persians, Turks, Malaysian, Moroccan or any other kind of Muslim people.

Why not try to get into the spread of choice when someone protests a magazine and a shill photo artist who sought a propaganda look?

The photo shop artist could split his income from Time with the American girl and some Muslim Tunisian, Egyptian, Syrian, Yemen, Libyan, Bahreini girl to appease the duplicity an misrepresentation of both. Or Time could do it.

I'll remember the photo shop artist named Farley and avoid him.

MineralMan

(151,269 posts)
64. No. They posterized a photo of a woman.
Tue Dec 20, 2011, 12:35 PM
Dec 2011

But, you're welcome to believe whatever you're able to believe.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
66. No. They changed her outfit -hiding her exposed skin, darkened her coloring, made her look angrier
Tue Dec 20, 2011, 03:25 PM
Dec 2011

by increasing the furrow in her brow. Posterization has nothing to do with any of that.
Those were editorial choices, and no accident.

aquart

(69,014 posts)
37. "From American to Muslim"?
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 03:39 PM
Dec 2011

Are you fucking kidding me with that disgusting piece of bigotry?

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
57. to be honest, I noticed they covered up her skin and felt it was for just that reason
Tue Dec 20, 2011, 10:46 AM
Dec 2011

that they'd like her to look like she could just as easily be in Eqypt as she could in NYC. I don't think there's anything racist about picking up the subtle differences that skew the image to be more international, more angry (the increase in brow furrow) and therefore less "friendly" to main stream america.

Response to peacetalksforall (Reply #20)

hootinholler

(26,451 posts)
55. Label me a purist
Tue Dec 20, 2011, 02:04 AM
Dec 2011

Those blends are just too hot in the summer and get them wet in the winter they won't keep you warm.



 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
61. they kept the beanie, but covered up her skin. and made her darker and angrier looking
Tue Dec 20, 2011, 11:56 AM
Dec 2011

by extending and highlighting the furrowed brow. those were all concious choices that skewed the image so it could be anywhere.
the first image, even without the 99%, you would guess the USA or Europe, and would never place her in Eqypt.
I don't think there's anything wrong with pointing that out.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
67. I'm afraid I don't see what you're talking about in reference to her brow.
Tue Dec 20, 2011, 09:10 PM
Dec 2011

As the poster said upthread, the biggest change is the covering of the skin on the shoulder on one side and covering her chest on the other.

I honestly see nothing more than a photograph, stylized, posterized, and made a little more generic for display on a magazine cover.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
71. you don't see- the angle and length of the brows are more extreme. which gives a more sinister look
Tue Dec 20, 2011, 09:29 PM
Dec 2011

I think it's funny that few noticed her skin was gone, because more than anything, that transforms the image from a california co ed to someone who could be an Eqyptian, or a terrorist or even a ninja. I certainly do think it's subtle, but that they decided to push it to be a more severe, and away from what many americans can relate to. I can't say I'm surprised at Time though.

Uncle Joe

(65,140 posts)
73. I agree on all counts and I would wager that for every person reading the article, a hundred or
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 01:14 PM
Dec 2011

more will only see the cover on the newstand, just more subliminal manipulation from the corporate media.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
77. and editors are very aware of this, yep. and most of us here wouldn't be swayed but conservative
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 05:20 PM
Dec 2011

people, would have their predjudices confirmed. the protester is "other" than the average american girl she appeared to be in the original photo.
it would be much more honest to use the original in an american magazine, which should be examining why the protest movement has finallly hit home in a huge way.

Justice wanted

(2,657 posts)
4. Trying to keep OWS out of it and really making the person more "Terrorist-like". Thank you for
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 11:11 AM
Dec 2011

showing me this picture.


I have to wonder what the article inside the magazine says and how they paint Time's person of the year. I should have known they would somehow SCREW the average jane/joe with this honor.

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
8. Whatever the intention was, the result is as you stated - to make the
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 11:29 AM
Dec 2011

protestor look like a terrorist - menacing eyes behind a hidden face - the kind of person looking to create havoc - hardly the "person next door" the artist says he was trying to represent.

Justice wanted

(2,657 posts)
25. yes in very small letters where as the picture of the girl the drawing came from had 99% on her
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 01:06 PM
Dec 2011

scarf. You immedately understood what the picture was. HOWEVER look at the Time drawing. It just makes this person look dangerous and scary. To me looking at the time picture it just looks bad. Sorry.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
45. I agree.
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 04:37 PM
Dec 2011

And considering that Time magazine leans politically way to the right, I think they did it intentionally.
To scare the rightwingnuts into being afraid of the OWS protestors.

SidDithers

(44,333 posts)
7. Why don't you ask Shepard Fairey about the cover?...
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 11:22 AM
Dec 2011

He created the artwork after picking that picture out of a group of 25 photos.

He removed the 99% because, obviously, Shepard Fairey is a tool of the corporate elite, who hates OWS and the 99%.

ETA: Here's an interview with Fairey about his cover. Pardon the HuffPo link:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/14/shepard-fairey-designs-ti_n_1149680.html

"Time provided me with reference images to sift through and I illustrated from a photograph that I thought would be a good reference for an iconic and compelling protester who would come across as serious, but not scary. Most of the protesters are normal, idealistic, young adults, so I thought the "person next door" feel was important. I'm influenced by propaganda poster art and I try to emphasize the most powerful essence of an image and eliminate anything superfluous. My color palette has a propaganda influence as well. I like Warhol as well."

Edit 2: Fairey's interview with Time http://timemagazine.tumblr.com/post/14214199000/shepard-fairey-talks-about-creating-times-person-of

Sid

Adsos Letter

(19,459 posts)
30. "...who would come across as serious, but not scary."
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 02:51 PM
Dec 2011

It's scarier than the original.

The subtle shading around the eyes and eyebrows changes the subjects demeanor considerably.

SidDithers

(44,333 posts)
40. It's art...
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 04:28 PM
Dec 2011

Do you really think Shepard Fairey intends to make protesters look bad with this piece?

You guys are reading far, far too much into this cover.

Sid

Adsos Letter

(19,459 posts)
42. The demeanor comes across as more sinister and threatening.
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 04:33 PM
Dec 2011

Whether he intended it or not, the result is the same.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
58. no, it's graphic art done to spec. the editors would decide if the 99% remains
Tue Dec 20, 2011, 10:49 AM
Dec 2011

in the pic or not. They give a lot of input, and if the artist doesn't go along, they find another one who will.

SidDithers

(44,333 posts)
59. Prove it...
Tue Dec 20, 2011, 10:55 AM
Dec 2011

I bet you're wrong. I think that if you want Shepard Fairey to do your cover art, you don't make demands on what you want from him.

So, prove it.

Sid

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
60. In publishing the artists do not ever get the last say. Not my fault if you assumed otherwise
Tue Dec 20, 2011, 11:14 AM
Dec 2011

It's how publishing works. Aritsts provide roughs, get feedback from the editor hiring who knows exactly what is acceptable to the top brass. What design "elements" are included or excluded are specifically called out before the artwork is produced. Editors have specific ideas of what is okay to convey, and what is not- they make sure the artist follows through. Most times they provide a few test images and editors edit them. Every magazine out there works that way. If they choose a ready made image (not the case here, but I'll play- because it can happen) it is because the image already does completely convey the publicications intent. The artist themselves is never ever allowed to make that call, that is the editors job- to edit content.
You thought they'd let old Shep do whatever he want? Bless your heart, I guess you don't know anyone who have worked for magazines. Sorry, I have been around this stuff my whole life, I thought everyone knew how it works.

Schema Thing

(10,283 posts)
14. Seriously? This is bullshit criticism.
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 11:43 AM
Dec 2011


Dumb criticism to gin up dumb people.

This is the sort of criticism I hate seeing from the right.


It's even more loathsome from the left.


Go away.

Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
15. They are playing on the fear of terrorism. Corporate media, especially
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 11:49 AM
Dec 2011

the ones that receive advertising from the likes of BP and Halliburton, need to perpetuate the 'terrorist around every corner' myth.
It makes money for them while keeping the pablum flowing to the people.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
22. Kind of takes most of the meat out of the stew.
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 12:19 PM
Dec 2011

Would have been more powerful if they had used the original photo for the US edition, instead of making it look sort of like it happened "over there, and not here".

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
23. They darkened her eyes to make her look like one of them
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 12:58 PM
Dec 2011

Middle Eastern terraists. And of course removed the critical "99%".

Carolina

(6,960 posts)
27. Yet another reason I
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 01:36 PM
Dec 2011

dropped my subscription to TIME years ago.

You say: "... on TIME's cover, she is reduced to a generic, hybrid graphic that fails to invoke passions precisely because it lacks the specificity of place, the specificity of time, the specificity of motivation, of a cause."

Even worse, and likely intended, the cover graphic also makes the protestor appear sinister, potentially fueling more antipathy by SHEEPLE toward protest in general.

 

T S Justly

(884 posts)
34. Oh ...
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 03:19 PM
Dec 2011

Okay. Perhaps, he does. Had'nt thought about Fairey's role in this hit job. Good catch!

SidDithers

(44,333 posts)
39. No, he doesn't. You don't remember the redo of his famous Obama HOPE poster?
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 04:23 PM
Dec 2011
http://obeygiant.com/headlines/occupy-hope




So Shepard Fairey took a picture of an OWS protestor, and generalized it. Big fucking deal.

Sid

Uncle Joe

(65,140 posts)
35. No, Time Magazine hates the OWS movement, Shepard Fairey was just hired by them to do the cover.
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 03:22 PM
Dec 2011
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shepard_Fairey

"Fairey was questioned about criticism surrounding his use of images from social movements, specifically images created by artists of color, in an interview with Liam O'Donoghue for Mother Jones. O'Donoghue later posted an article, titled "Shepard Fairey’s Image Problem", on several independent media sites.[55] The article explored Fairey's use of copyright protected images while at the same time defending his copyright protected works from being used by other artists and corporations. Fairey cited his collaboration with Public Enemy, his funding of the Zapatista Army of National Liberation, and his six-figure charitable contributions for Darfur assistance as counterpoints to the charges of exploitation. "I challenge anybody to fuck with that, know what I mean," Fairey stated. "It's not like I'm just jumping on some cool rebel cause for the sake of exploiting it for profit. People like to talk shit, but it's usually to justify their own apathy. I don't want to demean anyone's struggles through casual appropriation of something powerful; that's not my intention."[56]

That may not be his "intention" but Time paid him for his work and I believe contrary to his objection, that was the result at least on this cover.

Uncle Joe

(65,140 posts)
38. On a scarier depiction than the original pic as Adsos Letter observed
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 04:10 PM
Dec 2011

on post #30 and I concurred with on post#32.

Uncle Joe

(65,140 posts)
47. I'm not disputing that, it's not a question of the artist's support, it's a question of
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 04:59 PM
Dec 2011

marketing and psychology.

Time Magazine is a loyal member of the corporate media, they didn't a choose to do a "Norman Rockwell" type depiction of the OWS movement for a powerful reason, they don't want the American People to associate the OWS movement as mom, apple pie and baseball, even though democracy and the First Amendment are every bit composed of that essence.

Time preferred a darker and visually more sinister image, and they got it.

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
44. Probably because they want to signify global protesters
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 04:36 PM
Dec 2011

and the "99%" is connected with OWS specifically.

progressoid

(53,179 posts)
46. Good god. Much ado about nothing.
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 04:56 PM
Dec 2011

The Person of the year is the protester. All of them. That's why it is a "a generic, hybrid graphic".

Jeez.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
54. What I take away from this post is someone's angry because they don't think OWS big enough "props".
Tue Dec 20, 2011, 01:33 AM
Dec 2011

I think this is evidenced by the argument "it lacks the specificity of place, the specificity of time, the specificity of motivation, of a cause."

 

fascisthunter

(29,381 posts)
69. um no... it was deliberately left out not to give the attention to OWS
Tue Dec 20, 2011, 09:14 PM
Dec 2011

In the design field we know what we are doing and that edit was on purpose...

blaze

(8,381 posts)
70. I posterized a pic of my (86yo) Mom.
Tue Dec 20, 2011, 09:22 PM
Dec 2011

She looks sinister in the posterized version.

meh

much ado about nuttin'

Prometheus Bound

(3,489 posts)
72. Nice drawing. Very appropriate. Could be American, Greek, Spanish, Egyptian, Tunisian, Libyan, etc.
Tue Dec 20, 2011, 09:31 PM
Dec 2011

Leaving the 99% on would focus too much on the US movement.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
74. Well OF COURSE they had to take the 99% off!
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 01:19 PM
Dec 2011

They love and worship the U.S. plutocracy! Time is nothing more than another POS propaganda rag that works for the PTB and would watch us all die if their paymastes ordered it! They would put away their cameras and mics and say, "YES MASTER, WHATEVER THE CORPORATION WANTS!"

Fucking sick, but expected by American corporations playing CYA for their fellow corporations. I hope they keep it up! It is backfiring everytime a corporate robot tries to hide the problems with this country.

Spike89

(1,569 posts)
78. It is not about OWS specifically and there is anger
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 06:23 PM
Dec 2011

This is an absurd thing for us to get worked up about. This is supposed to represent the protesters and yes, revolutionaries all over the globe who made protesting the story of the year. Time is supposed to be at least nominally an International news source and I'm glad they choose to recognize that the entire friggen world seems fed up with the staus quo rather than putting Bieber or some other pop star on the cover.
Seriously, what are people complaining about? OWS is a big deal, but so was the toppling of governments in the middle east where real people were killed in their protests.
Oh, and as someone with more than a couple decades in magazine publishing as an editor, the cover is pure editorial. This cover does seem to match and illustrate the point of the feature--the big news of last year were uprisings and protesters all over the world.

Uncle Joe

(65,140 posts)
79. They took an image specifically from OWS and manipulated it with an obvious sinister bent from the
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 06:50 PM
Dec 2011

original pic.

I would venture to say the vast majority of protesters worldwide don't even wear masks, no doubt many of them do whether it be for nefarious reasons or just to protect themselves against poltical and or economic reprisals for expressing their freedom of speech power.

I have no problem with generic "protesters" being the "Person of the Year" but at the very least if Time can't find it in themselves to project the protesters' image in a positive light, it could've done so in a neutral one.

I agree with you as for the cover being an editorial and so is this thread in response, if you read the entire thread, it's pretty self-explanatory as to why some people are worked up.

To may way of thinking if more people had been worked up or become aware of corporate media propaganda, whether blatant or subliminal, we as a nation would be much better off than we are today.

P.S. As for Time being International, it would be nice if they were consistent to that claim.



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