Elizabeth Warren/Pope Francis 2016

[MannyGoldstein]

After 40 years of unbelievable awfulness and stupidity, we Liberals are ascendent again.

Seems like there's a new bit of goodness every week now - today Pope Francis pointing out that The Predator Class has no clothes. Buck naked. With flamethrowers pointed at us.

Much work to do, much distance to cover, but this feels good to me: I hope it feels good to you, too.

Enjoy the journey! It will be nothing if not interesting!

[madinmaryland]

1. Can the Pope provide a valid Birth Certificate??

[Katashi_itto]

4. BUT, BUT, BUT, THE POPE IS EVIL HE HASN"T MADE CHANGES FAST ENOUGH

TO SUIT ME!!!

[MisterP]

20. and he doesn't wholeheartedly subscribe to Protestantism!

[Chan790]

30. or secular liberal ideals.

I'm amazed how many people don't get that we need to forge common cause on economic issues with liberal Christians and Catholics...rather than beat them over the head and chastise them because they're only on board for liberal and just economies.

[Enthusiast]

25. True.

[Vashta Nerada]

3. No.

Just...no.

[LittleBlue]

5. lol

Funny thing, Francis is probably more liberal economically than our nominee will be. He'd land solidly in Karl Marx territory on the US political spectrum.

[Agnosticsherbet]

8. As VP he could personally dispense the Opiate of the masses to the masses. n/t

[longship]

9. At Sunday Mass, no doubt.

I wonder if he'd entertain a rousing chorus of the Vatican Rag.

Now that would be something. But I'll leave it for a real pro to convince you all.

[pinboy3niner]

12. Or televised from his home at the Naval Popeservatory. nt

[Agnosticsherbet]

6. I think it would violate the separation of Church and State for the Vicar of Christ to run.

Why would the Pope give up his gig as Vicar of Christ to go to state funerals and cast the tie breaking vote in the Senate when such is needed?

[brooklynite]

13. How did you feel about Father Drinan?

[Agnosticsherbet]

19. Father Drinan wasn't the Pope, a head of state, and though clearly a liberal

I wouldn't vote for him at this point in my life. I have come to the conclusion that clergy are not the best fit for elected office.

[SidDithers]

7. Enjoy your theocracy...nt

Sid

[MannyGoldstein]

11. I suspect pope Francis is an atheist

Or even worse... Jewish.

Actually, he does seem more like my Hebrew school teachers than like the priests I've known.

[neverforget]

15. Is Canada in danger of a theocratic takeover?

[Cali_Democrat]

17. No. n/t

[Renew Deal]

24. I think you missed the joke

[MannyGoldstein]

38. Hey Sid; would still appreciate a couple of answers from you

Do you support wealthy people who hoard wealth, instead of giving it to the poor (yes, like the Catholic Church has)?

Did you hate Obama before he "evolved" on gay marriage?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4098890

[pinboy3niner]

10. Sounds like an infallible plan. nt

[brooklynite]

14. I'll credit him with a sense of economic compassion...he's still religiously intolerant

[Phlem]

16. Yes I read that elsewhere,

He's a good Pope but still not w/o flaws (gay marriage, etc..).

But the call out is fucking awesome.

Something needs to replace capitalism, for the sake of humanity.

-p

[Enthusiast]

23. Yeah, something needs to replace capitalism.

How about highly regulated capitalism with Glass-Steagal and other measures that protect us from disaster predatory capitalism.

[RedstDem]

26. that'll due

[Chan790]

31. Doesn't go far enough.

There has to be a component to address the already extant wealth disparity resultant of predatory capital globally.

Reinstating Glass-Steagal and regulating capital isn't going to cut it. Poverty is the great injustice of our time.

[Enthusiast]

34. Of course we must have higher tax rates for the upper

income brackets and reform on deductions.

Capital gains taxes should be taxed at the same rate as ordinary income too. The old argument that if we lower the tax rate on capital gains we would have greater investment has been shown to be untrue.

Inheritance taxes must go up. A Wall Street trading transaction tax would help generate revenue that could be invested in infrastructure projects and education.

[Chan790]

35. ...and an indexed minimum wage in addition to an increase.

I want $15.^xx/hr. but I'd settle for $10.¹⁰/hr. if it were indexed.

That way wages keep pace with productivity gains. Actually, if we tie it to the same index as Social Security, that will invest people into opposing efforts to screw America's retirees. We'd never hear the words "chained-CPI" again...it'd be the death of their electability.

[Enthusiast]

39. Good idea.

[BelgianMadCow]

41. Over here, one of the key economic experts is saying as much

Geert Noels, in his newest book Econoshock 2.0, ends with the tragedy of the commons and questions the system we live under. A moment. Many are waking up.

[Enthusiast]

42. I'm so glad many are waking up.

This is at a crisis point here in the USA. We spend obscene amounts on the military, spending that is entirely unjustified. Our political system is unresponsive to our needs. And our media is completely biased and full of misinformation tailored for maintaining the status quo.

[Cali_Democrat]

18. Miley/Kanye 2016

[Vietnameravet]

21. Pope

I think its extremely important for us to build bridges to this Pope.. yes of course we have differences but we should build on our similarities... His words on economic matters completely undercut the far right and if any Democrat had said them half the jokers on FOX news would be denouncing them as Marxist and Communist..

I just wonder what Bill O and Sean H and Paul Ryan are thinking.. I wonder what kind of coverage FOX news is giving this?

[Laelth]

28. Hear, hear! n/t

-Laelth

[Enthusiast]

22. Kicked and recommended a significant amount.

It feels good to me too, Manny.

[Laelth]

27. k&r for REAL hope.

Against my better judgment, I do have some hope for the future. The emergence of Pope Francis and Elizabeth Warren are a couple of the reasons I have hope now that I did not have a few years ago.



-Laelth

[rhett o rick]

29. k&r thanks for posting.

[hootinholler]

32. Miles to go before we sleep n/t

[Fumesucker]

33. Lieberman/Nader 2016

Joementum at any speed!

[MannyGoldstein]

36. LOL!

A single ticket containing a majority of the whiny excuses for Democratic Party's behavior over the past 15 years.

[TBF]

37. If you can get the Pope to agree to put women in charge

I will vote for him.

[ucrdem]

40. Pope and Change

[ucrdem]

43. Let's keep this one kicked

. . . and see we can help Manny run the table