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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums10 Ways to Deal With Right-Wing Christian Relatives Over the Holidays
http://www.alternet.org/belief/10-ways-deal-right-wing-christian-relatives-over-holidays1. Remember that you have leverage. Dan Savage is always recommending to newly out gay people to remember that they have leverage when dealing with recalcitrant or even angry parents: Their presence. Liberals and atheists can learn from this. If your family really is overbearing with attempts to convert you or incessant hollering about their right-wing beliefs, simply tell them to cut it out or you will cut out your visits. Try to avoid picking a fight or being dramatic about it. State your expectation that they keep the Christian right nonsense to a minimum around you, and if they cant keep up their end of the bargain, refuse to see them until they realize that the price of having you around is that they learn to talk about something other than religion and politics.
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2. Do not argue over points of fact. Sometimes you will feel the need to push back, if only to establish your boundaries. Theres a good way and a bad way to do this. One thing to avoid is trying to correct them when they say blatantly untrue things. Yes, its maddening to hear your relatives spout lies about science, politics and history that they picked up on AM radio and Fox News, but ask yourself honestly, has correcting them ever resulted in anything but denials and hurt feelings? When a relative asserts that global warming is a myth or that Barack Obama is a secret Muslim, remind yourself that he doesn't believe these things because he's made an honest mistake and is open to correction. He believes these things because he wants to believe these things. Unless you can make him stop wanting to believe itand you canttheres no point in arguing. Even if you can look up the facts online, he can point to some other source telling the lies. This will never get resolved, and you are wasting your breath.
3. When you do push back, make it personal. That doesnt mean you have to just throw your hands up in the air and take it while your relatives spout provocative lies around you, however. The key is to reframe the issue as a matter of personal boundaries. When you say those things about the President, Grandpa, it makes me agitated and angry. Can we talk about other, more pleasant things? Mom, our time together is so brief, and Id hate for it to be used up talking about issues you know we dont agree on. Uncle, your comments about gay people are hitting close to home. Some of my best friends are gay, and I cant, in good conscience, hear people say negative things about them without speaking up. Could you leave it at home?
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4. If they really are unfamiliar with your beliefs, encourage them to ask questions. That said, not every Christian conservative is eager to pick a fight or has predetermined and unshakeable opinions about liberals or atheists. With atheists in particular, they may just not even know. If you sense that a relative means well and really is curiousparticularly if theyre youngerfeel free to let them ask questions that you answer honestly. Sometimes humanizing atheists can help change someones opinion about atheism. Warning: Only do this if they really are curious and are not angling to convert you. If they start to try to convert you, shut it down. That will just get ugly.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)xchrom
(108,903 posts)you were never allowed to utter a word that might, MIGHT make someone uncomfortable.
you were lucky the weather wasn't out of bounds.
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)There is this:
And, I love Kurisumasu keki! I will have to buy my own this year. I am on my own now. Moved out of my parents house and have my own place. My parents will probably do the same thing they do every year. I will probably get gifts from them and give them gifts...but I will be having my friends over (KIMI!!!) and we will try out EGGNOG...and sit around a little aluminum tree (I can not afford a real one, and will not cut down any for sure!) sing Korean and Japanese versions of karaoke XMAS STUFF.
Maybe later I will post an article about what Christmas is like in Japan!
xchrom
(108,903 posts)yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)I am sure you can find those kinds of cakes around... I will visit a near by Asian bakery for my Kurisumasu Keki !!
xchrom
(108,903 posts)happy thanksgiving to you!
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)Pronunciation just ask, or Art_from_Ark or Bonobo will probably help ya!
treestar
(82,383 posts)except the two oldest males. They will pontificate a little, expecting total agreement. The younger generation is liberal and talks about fun things.
charmay
(525 posts)Tea party brother isn't coming. When he comes, he keeps his mouth shut because he knows he'll be "pounced on" by 15 liberals.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)anti gay and anti choice religious figures with such open and insulting abandon. In my family, the Christians are all in favor of equality.
Thirties Child
(543 posts)Mr. Thirties and I, yellow-dog Democrats, 76 and almost 79 respectively, will have dinner with:
Oldest Son, 50s, Libertarian, athiest
Youngest Son, 40s, insurance salesman who thinks ACA is a disaster, thinks he's a Christian, but probably isn't
Youngest Son's Japanese Wife, 40s, Christian right
Youngest Son's Japanese Wife's bi-racial daughter (African American, Japanese) and son-in-law (Italian American), 20s, M.P.s in army, politics and religion unknown
It should be interesting. I have no idea what to expect, except hearing a lot about the evils of ACA.