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Marissa Alexander bonds out of jail
JACKSONVILLE, Fla -- The Jacksonville mother convicted of shooting at her estranged husband has bonded out of jail.
Marissa Alexander was released just before midnight Wednesday. She is now under house arrest.
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A judge ruled in September that Alexander would receive a new trial due to bad jury instructions given in her first trial.
Alexander and her attorneys say she fired the gun as a "warning shot."
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/actionbreaking/story/Marissa-Alexander-bonds-out-of-jail/PQj28nZmIkSPEqltjw4WCQ.cspx
Control-Z
(15,682 posts)I hope her new trial keeps her out.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)JimboBillyBubbaBob
(1,389 posts)Peace..................
Cha
(297,935 posts)are interested in Justice!
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Her jury took 12 minutes. For a reason.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)JitterbugPerfume
(18,183 posts)that she was arrested in the first place!
hack89
(39,171 posts)Last edited Thu Nov 28, 2013, 10:40 PM - Edit history (1)
There is a reason why warning shots are a felony in most states.
Moses2SandyKoufax
(1,290 posts)Can't believe it took 3 hours for a member of the International Brotherhood of Zimmerman Defenders Local 18 to remind us that THIS case is sooo much different from all the other SYG cases involving white shooters.
hack89
(39,171 posts)Which you then use to endanger your own kids instead of simply leaving the house. Telling your ex-husband "I have something for your ass" before getting your gun is also not SYG.
You are aware, aren't you, that black shooters have the same conviction rate in Florida for SYG cases than white shooters? SYG favors the shooter regardless of race. But facts like that don't fit into your world view, do they?
And BTW, go check my posts on Zimmerman - you will find that I consistently said he was guilty. I just knew it was a hard case to try because there were no eye witnesses, giving Z a huge advantage.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)The bullet went through that wall and into the ceiling of the room behind. IT WAS NOT A WARNING SHOT.
TBF
(32,121 posts)but shooting down unarmed teenagers is fair game?
We live in bizarro-world.
hack89
(39,171 posts)don't you think that should be a serious crime? How about shooting blindly not know where the bullet will land - should that be a crime.
TBF
(32,121 posts)Color me surprised.
Kaleva
(36,384 posts)and of the woman who mistook her daughter for her boyfriend and shot her.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172134032
TBF
(32,121 posts)I understand the concern about Marissa fighting warning shots over the kids.
hack89
(39,171 posts)I just knew it would be a very hard case to try because there were no eyewitnesses.
Neither case was SYG in my opinion - Z because he followed TM and Alexander because she was in a safe place and left it to get a gun and confront her ex. Her problem was there was no shortage of eye witnesses.
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)You always defend shooters like Zimmerman, but now suddenly you don't defend this person?
Gee....I wonder why.
hack89
(39,171 posts)Last edited Fri Nov 29, 2013, 02:18 PM - Edit history (1)
Go check.
I just knew it would be a hard case to try because there were no eye witnesses. I was right and it pissed you off - I understand your frustration but that's the way life goes sometimes.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)I'm just laughing at your obvious hypocrisy when defending the shooter with the lighter skin who actually killed an unarmed kid.
Thankfully other DUers are also seeing your hypocrisy.
hack89
(39,171 posts)friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)It's ridiculous that she was convicted for discharging a firearm in the general vicinity of someone that has a history of violence against her...
When are we going to stand up to the companies that make weapons and say "enough"?
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)She was convicted of shooting near her estranged husband. I have no clue how you could misconstrue that with her children...
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)same general direction of the gunfire.
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)Do you have an agenda or are you just being deliberately obtuse?
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)The woman left the house, retrieved her gun, went back into the house, and shot in the direction of an adiult male and some children. Those are the facts. The round went into a wall, not a ceiling. I would think a warning shot would be aimed upwards.
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)I stand corrected, I thought he had been outside. Apparently the judge didn't think about if she may have been trying to protect both herself AND the children from another beating.
The warning shot went through the wall and into ceiling, so unless one is spatially challenged, that would be upwards.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)They waited outside for the cops to come arrest her. They later testified at her trial. (but only after she went to his house to beat him up while out on bail)
The bullet travelled from the handgun which she was holding, missed Grays head "by inches" angled up through the wall and into the ceiling of the next room.
How did the 12 year old describe the incident to the jury? "I thought I was fixin' to die"
Local community standards have some seriously fucked up standards of heroism. Everyone should read the link posted above before commenting further.
It is unambiguous. The charge should be attempted murder.
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)missed him by inches and yet went into the ceiling. Is he like nine feet tall? The case is about her firing the weapon, which she had a permit for, was trained in its use and managed not to kill anyone with it. Maybe she should have just shot and killed him such that he couldn't bring up irrelevant, extraneous info (kind of like someone else). Maybe then the gun nuts would be backing her...
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)Once you have, let's continue this conversation.
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)The trial was about discharging a firearm. If you want to talk about that, please proceed. If you just want to bring up extraneous crap (google extraneous if you don't know what it means) then I guess we we are done.
X_Digger
(18,585 posts)Notice the slight upward trajectory as it exited by the refrigerator.
Demo_Chris
(6,234 posts)I am not sure why.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)Demo_Chris
(6,234 posts)It seems many simply do not care about the facts of the case.
My hope is that they do not offer her any plea deals and go straight to trial. She belongs in prison and that's where she will be.
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)Besides that, warning shots are illegal. If she felt her life was in danger, then she legally could have shot the person who was threatening to end her life or to cause great bodily harm. In most jurisdicitons, if that was not the case, it is illegal to discharge a firearm. She seems to have broken the law, and Florida law has a great penalty, albeit an unintended consequence, for doing such a thing.
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)Jesus, discharging a firearm does not carry a 20 year sentence. She was in HER OWN HOUSE. She felt threatened by a person she had a protective order against for previous domestic violence. He was refusing to leave HER HOUSE.
Now if she had just chased him down the street and shot him dead (and not been black and a woman) she would be having gun nuts donate thousand of dollars on websites for her defense and gotten away with it.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)She left her baby at the hospital to go where HE was living, thus violating the protective order, and then stayed the night waiting for him to arrive the following morning.
You clearly haven't read anything at all about this case.
She has an entirely different cadre of nuts donating thousands of dollars on websites so she can get away with domestic abuse.
Fools and their money.
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)"Marissa Alexander of Jacksonville had said the state's "Stand Your Ground" law should apply to her because she was defending herself against her allegedly abusive husband when she fired warning shots inside her home in August 2010. She told police it was to escape a brutal beating by her husband, against whom she had already taken out a protective order."
So what exactly is your problem with her? I would hate to think that she is a woman, or black, or a victim of domestic violence.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)Also, she was convicted of beating Mr Gray while she was last out on bail, apparently in an attempt to influence his testimony.
Most of what you think you know about this case, including "shooting a warning shot into the ceiling" is from the coordinated lie campaign from her lawyers, family and ex-husband.
As she was going to the garage to get her gun out of her car (that she'd parked in his garage the previous night) she said "wait here, I got something for your ass." She came back in and shot it at him.
a) you're not standing your ground when you leave to go get a weapon, come back and shoot it at your intended victim.
b) it's not self-defense when you instigate it and avoid every opportunity to walk away.
She wasn't afraid. She was mad.
"I thought I was fixin to die" That was the testimony of Gray's son at whom she shot.
I have a question for you. You said that she should have shot him. Okay, what should she have done about the two witnesses who testified against her? Should she have shot them in the house or in the yard?
This time, she's going to take any offered plea deal, because she's guilty of (at a minimum) what she was convicted last time.
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)Jenoch
(7,720 posts)I read somewhere that a Florida legislator admitted the 10-20-life law as related to guns was not intended for situations such the one this woman created. He said it was about people robbing liquor stores, etc. and using firearms to do so.
I'm not suggesting this woman should do 20 years. I am suggesting she created the situation by leaving the verbal altercation, retrieving her gun, and firing it even though she was not in fear for her life. I don't think "warning shots" are a legal use of a firearm.
MoreGOPoop
(417 posts)Happy Thanksgiving, Marissa!
onestepforward
(3,691 posts)WillyT
(72,631 posts)LoisB
(7,249 posts)lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)tammywammy
(26,582 posts)Hopefully that'll prevent her from going to his house like last time.
Decaffeinated
(556 posts)She might try to "warn" you again!
niyad
(113,778 posts)dembotoz
(16,864 posts)florida for ever and ever and ever
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)She used a gun in a domestic violence incident and should not possess firearms.
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)Jenoch
(7,720 posts)saying she should suffer from domestic violence.
indepat
(20,899 posts)black woman fearing for her life, can't fire a warning shot without being convicted of a crime carrying a 20-year sentence. The entire governance in FL is just as fuc*ed up as the above imo.
X_Digger
(18,585 posts)Fire a "warning shot" and you've just shown that you think there is time and a possibility for the potential attacker to back off, negating the 'imminence' of your self-defense claim.
"Warning shots" are a dangerous hollywood myth that will get you put in jail.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)She left his house, retrieved her gun from her car, returned to the house and shot it at Gray and his kids.
Pick better causes celebres.
indepat
(20,899 posts)is fuc*ed up.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)DLevine
(1,788 posts)In Rico Gray's original deposition dated 11/22/2010, he corroborated much of Marissa's testimony.
He admitted he had threatened to beat her (as he had numerous times before, which is why she had a restraining order against him). He also admitted to having beaten 4 of the 5 mothers of his children.
After he threatened to beat her, Marissa retreated to the attached garage. Rico said he knew she couldn't escape from the garage because it was locked. When she came back with the gun and tried to leave the house, he told her he wouldn't let her leave until she talked to him. She fired a shot in the air, not directed at him or his kids, and he left the house.
He later recanted all this, saying he made it up to protect Marissa. He totally changed his story.
Both kids have changed their stories at times. At one time one of the boys said Marissa shot in the air because his dad was beating her. Another time one of the boys said he heard the gunshot, but didn't see the gun. We only have Rico's word for it that the shots were fired anywhere near him or his sons. And again, he and his sons gave completely different accounts at different times.
As to why she was there that day? She had moved from their marital home, but returned to get some clothes. She did not expect him to be there at the time.
So, why did she later violate her parole by confronting him (the incident where he claims she gave him a black eye)? She went there to get his signature on medical insurance paperwork for their premature baby. After that incident, she went to the hospital for injuries sustained in an altercation with Rico. Evidently he did not require medical attention.
Believe who you will, but I believe Marissa.
Kaleva
(36,384 posts)"Marissa Alexander's attorneys argued in a Jacksonville, Fla., court Wednesday that she should be granted bond pending trail because there is no longer animosity between her and her ex-husband."
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/11/13/21441885-florida-woman-sentenced-to-20-years-for-firing-into-wall-to-stay-in-jail-for-now
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)The whole point of the damn protective order is that you stay away. If the genders were reversed, would you support a man showing up to get some clothes?