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littlewolf

(3,813 posts)
Thu Nov 28, 2013, 08:36 PM Nov 2013

good news about the pizza hut manager who got fired

http://www.nbcnews.com/business/pizza-hut-manager-fired-after-refusing-open-thanksgiving-2D11665028?gt1=43001

After being fired for refusing to open his restaurant on Thanksgiving, a Pizza Hut manager has his job back.
Tony Rohr, who worked his way up from cook to general manager at the company, was told it was mandatory to keep his Elkhart, Ind., store open on the holiday.
"I just decided I wasn't going to agree to it," Rohr said. "All of these people the whole year had been told they were going to have the day off."
Luckily for him, Pizza Hut stepped in and "strongly recommended" that the local franchise hire him back, saying the company respects "an employee's right to not work on a holiday."

snip

Pizza Hut issued this statement Thursday morning:
As follow up to the situation in Elkhart, IN, we feel strongly that the situation involving our independent franchisee and the local store manager could and should have been avoided. We fully respect an employee's right to not work on a holiday, which is why the vast majority of Pizza Huts in America are closed on Thanksgiving. As a result, we strongly recommended that the local franchisee reinstate the store manager and they have agreed. We look forward to them welcoming Tony back to the team.


Rohr said that in his 10 years with the company, this was the first time any location had asked him to work on Thanksgiving.
Rohr said earlier that he had no regrets about pushing back.
"No, not at all," he said. "I'm glad I did that."

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good news about the pizza hut manager who got fired (Original Post) littlewolf Nov 2013 OP
What are they thinking anyway? Who eats pizza on Thanksgiving? That would have to be brewens Nov 2013 #1
What is wrong with eating pizza on Thanksgiving? Seriously. What? Is there some mandated food uppityperson Nov 2013 #4
Fine. Cook it yourself. Let retail employees spend the day with their families too. Pale Blue Dot Nov 2013 #13
Restaurants are point-of-service business, not retail. uppityperson Nov 2013 #14
So, "point of service" employees don't deserve Thanksgiving off? n/t JBoy Nov 2013 #17
Where did I say or imply that? uppityperson Nov 2013 #42
yeah that changes EVERYTHING demwing Nov 2013 #49
simply pointing out an inaccuracy. sorry you missed the point. uppityperson Nov 2013 #50
I see "the" point demwing Nov 2013 #51
You do not agree with my point? Huh. That is too bad. uppityperson Nov 2013 #52
Anchovies and jalapeno peppers for me! KansDem Nov 2013 #34
Geez calm down obama2terms Nov 2013 #16
I have stayed out of GD mostly this last week due to the arguments about the High Holiday of Thanksg uppityperson Nov 2013 #43
The employees had been told they would have the day off (in the year preceeding the decision) etherealtruth Nov 2013 #21
Oh, I agree that workers are treated like shit and that if you were told you get time off, you shoul uppityperson Nov 2013 #39
Laughing out loud .... etherealtruth Nov 2013 #41
My OP from yesterday. Enjoy your pizza! uppityperson Nov 2013 #44
I recc'd your OP last night or early this morning! etherealtruth Nov 2013 #46
You think the world is supposed to cater to you MattBaggins Nov 2013 #25
wtf does that have to do with my countering "Who eats pizza on Thanksgiving"? uppityperson Nov 2013 #40
My kids and grandkids TexasProgresive Nov 2013 #6
Make pizza yourself or buy a few frozen MattBaggins Nov 2013 #26
Let it rest-that's what we do. TexasProgresive Nov 2013 #38
We did McDonalds for Christmas bluedeathray Nov 2013 #15
One of the best Christmas dinners our extended family ever had Jenoch Nov 2013 #29
money, money, money,money, money! heaven05 Nov 2013 #19
Translation: DonCoquixote Nov 2013 #2
actually I think that the franchisee owner did this. not corperate. littlewolf Nov 2013 #3
Right you are LTR Nov 2013 #8
You're right. Pizza Hut prolly realized that this Franchise Owner's actions TheDebbieDee Nov 2013 #12
I wonder how the franchise owner and his defiant manager Jenoch Nov 2013 #30
It may take a while... awoke_in_2003 Nov 2013 #47
I think Pizza Hut could easily mandate that their franchises be closed on certain holidays. Incitatus Nov 2013 #48
If you contacted the company to gripe, contact them to thank them. eridani Nov 2013 #5
that ! nt littlewolf Nov 2013 #7
Excellent point. I do a lot of email complaints. Dont think to thank those that I appreciate. rhett o rick Nov 2013 #28
This is great DissidentVoice Nov 2013 #9
me too. LittleGirl Nov 2013 #32
I don't know, have we? DissidentVoice Dec 2013 #53
No pizza on Turkey day Politicalboi Nov 2013 #10
I can understand being open on black friday. but on Thanksgiving? please. nt littlewolf Nov 2013 #11
Kicked and recommended a whole bunch.....nt Enthusiast Nov 2013 #18
at least your thread ended up a lot better than mine CatWoman Nov 2013 #20
I am really astounded by the lack of respect and concern for low wage workers etherealtruth Nov 2013 #22
i had to put that asshole on ignore CatWoman Nov 2013 #23
Unfortunate etherealtruth Nov 2013 #24
I just replied to him LittleGirl Nov 2013 #33
The good thing is that people can be embarrassed into doing the right thing. iandhr Nov 2013 #27
Who buys pizza on Thanksgiving? Not worth heating up the ovens. joanbarnes Nov 2013 #31
He rocked the boat.. watch for them to let him go later SoCalDem Nov 2013 #35
this would make a good undercover boss episode. nt littlewolf Nov 2013 #36
These companies are reporting record profits but act like the one day off will break them.... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2013 #37
HA! GOOD for him... maced666 Nov 2013 #45

brewens

(13,542 posts)
1. What are they thinking anyway? Who eats pizza on Thanksgiving? That would have to be
Thu Nov 28, 2013, 08:45 PM
Nov 2013

the stupidest day to be open anyway. At least in my town where Pizza Hut is like number 8 or something like that. I can't imagine our guys not losing money being open.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
4. What is wrong with eating pizza on Thanksgiving? Seriously. What? Is there some mandated food
Thu Nov 28, 2013, 08:56 PM
Nov 2013

for the day? I've had pizza before when visiting a family member who had no desire to cook and due to a recent death in the family was not feeling thankful.

Getting tired of this "must do this" "must eat that" on this day.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
42. Where did I say or imply that?
Fri Nov 29, 2013, 04:33 PM
Nov 2013

"Who eats pizza on Thanksgiving?"

Many people do.

I was then correcting the false impression that restaurants are retail, as they are not.



uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
52. You do not agree with my point? Huh. That is too bad.
Fri Nov 29, 2013, 08:40 PM
Nov 2013
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4109602
Oh, I agree that workers are treated like shit and that if you were told you get time off, you should.

You also do not agree with recognizing that restaurants are not retail? Oh.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
34. Anchovies and jalapeno peppers for me!
Fri Nov 29, 2013, 01:39 PM
Nov 2013

That's what I want for Thanksgiving dinner and I'd cook it myself!

But my family thinks otherwise...

But really, so many families watch "The Big Game" you'd think it would be more fun to do so over a pizza than a spread of food.

obama2terms

(563 posts)
16. Geez calm down
Fri Nov 29, 2013, 11:04 AM
Nov 2013

The guy didn't say it was a bad thing he just said it was a bad day to be open for business, which it is! Because most people don't eat pizza on Thanksgiving, it's not meant to be mean, it's just a fact!

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
43. I have stayed out of GD mostly this last week due to the arguments about the High Holiday of Thanksg
Fri Nov 29, 2013, 04:33 PM
Nov 2013

but this one finally got me. "Who eats pizza on Thanksgiving?" Well, I do and lots of people do. There are many things people eat.

Of course workers get shit, paid crap, etc, and that is wrong. Simply reacting to "Who eats pizza on Thanksgiving".

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
21. The employees had been told they would have the day off (in the year preceeding the decision)
Fri Nov 29, 2013, 11:25 AM
Nov 2013

Nobody is "dissing" the consumer ... low paid workers were told they would have a holiday off, the franchisee changed their mind.

This isn't about how people choose to spend their holiday ... this is about workers (esp low paid workers0 ... that don't appear to be respected enough to have an opportunity to celebrate holidays ... even when told they would be able to.

I am not so fond of Pizza Hut pizza, but as far as I am concerned pizza is the perfect food for any occasion.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
39. Oh, I agree that workers are treated like shit and that if you were told you get time off, you shoul
Fri Nov 29, 2013, 04:28 PM
Nov 2013

should.

MY point which you seem to be the only reply to understand, was to "Who eats pizza on Thanksgiving?"

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
40. wtf does that have to do with my countering "Who eats pizza on Thanksgiving"?
Fri Nov 29, 2013, 04:29 PM
Nov 2013

Try reading what I wrote again.

What is wrong with eating pizza on Thanksgiving? Seriously. What? Is there some mandated food for the day?

TexasProgresive

(12,156 posts)
6. My kids and grandkids
Thu Nov 28, 2013, 09:15 PM
Nov 2013

They don't want to eat a traditional turkey dinner with all the fixin's. But pizza-can't keep it in the house.

MattBaggins

(7,897 posts)
26. Make pizza yourself or buy a few frozen
Fri Nov 29, 2013, 11:41 AM
Nov 2013

Should pizza hut employees not get the day off because your kids and grandkids were never taught to eat and enjoy what was put in front of them?

TexasProgresive

(12,156 posts)
38. Let it rest-that's what we do.
Fri Nov 29, 2013, 02:38 PM
Nov 2013

We don't care for Pizza Hut pizza anyway. It's too bad we got exposed to real pizza in the North East.

bluedeathray

(511 posts)
15. We did McDonalds for Christmas
Fri Nov 29, 2013, 09:28 AM
Nov 2013

In Germany, in 1987. We were involved with games and didn't notice the day passing. It was a blast and we have the greatest memories of that one weird Christmas.

Don't get me wrong. I'm glad this story ended well. And I'm definitely in favor of employees calling some shots. Especially 10 year management veterans.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
29. One of the best Christmas dinners our extended family ever had
Fri Nov 29, 2013, 12:32 PM
Nov 2013

was at a McDonald's at the airport. This was long before TSA, etc. We were putting my 12 year old orphaned nephew on a plane to fly to California to spend time with his big sister. Our entire family went to the gate to see him off and that's where we all ate at McDonald's. Talk about stress free...

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
2. Translation:
Thu Nov 28, 2013, 08:48 PM
Nov 2013

"Pizza Hut issued this statement Thursday morning:
As follow up to the situation in Elkhart, IN, we feel strongly that the situation involving our independent franchisee and the local store manager could and should have been avoided. We fully respect an employee's right to not work on a holiday, which is why the vast majority of Pizza Huts in America are closed on Thanksgiving. As a result, we strongly recommended that the local franchisee reinstate the store manager and they have agreed. We look forward to them welcoming Tony back to the team. "

In other words, we are used to people being stupid sheep, and were unware that when we did this, the internet would show that we had done the pr equivalent to walking around with an unzipped fly. We are not used to people not cowering in fear whenever we threaten to destory their job, and we shall soon find some excuse to fire this guy anyway.

littlewolf

(3,813 posts)
3. actually I think that the franchisee owner did this. not corperate.
Thu Nov 28, 2013, 08:51 PM
Nov 2013

and corp applied pressure to the franchisee owner to undo this.
the owner is in hot water with pizza hut.

LTR

(13,227 posts)
8. Right you are
Thu Nov 28, 2013, 10:27 PM
Nov 2013

Many chain restaurants are owned by individual franchisees rather than the corporate office. The only thing they can do is apply pressure on the store owner. I'm sure Pizza Hut found out about this at the same time everyone else did, so they really can't be blamed.

 

TheDebbieDee

(11,119 posts)
12. You're right. Pizza Hut prolly realized that this Franchise Owner's actions
Thu Nov 28, 2013, 11:08 PM
Nov 2013

were going to make ALL Pizza Huts look bad. So they pressured the owner to hire this manager back. Smart move!

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
30. I wonder how the franchise owner and his defiant manager
Fri Nov 29, 2013, 12:35 PM
Nov 2013

will be getting along in the future?

I agree with the manager by the way. It would be bad for morale at that Pizza Hut store to make them work on Thanksgiving at the last minute.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
47. It may take a while...
Fri Nov 29, 2013, 05:36 PM
Nov 2013

but the owner will eventually get rid of him for some stupid reason. If I were the manager, I would start looking around for options.

Incitatus

(5,317 posts)
48. I think Pizza Hut could easily mandate that their franchises be closed on certain holidays.
Fri Nov 29, 2013, 08:00 PM
Nov 2013

They did a decent job handling this situation from a PR point. But they allow independent owners to operate under the rules they make, and apparently being open on Thanksgiving isn't prohibited.

eridani

(51,907 posts)
5. If you contacted the company to gripe, contact them to thank them.
Thu Nov 28, 2013, 08:59 PM
Nov 2013

Followups are always a good idea--reminds companies that lots of people are paying attention.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
28. Excellent point. I do a lot of email complaints. Dont think to thank those that I appreciate.
Fri Nov 29, 2013, 12:27 PM
Nov 2013

Thanks for the reminder.

Here is a contact form. It very easy to submit tho. http://www.pizzahut.com/contactus.html

DissidentVoice

(813 posts)
9. This is great
Thu Nov 28, 2013, 10:55 PM
Nov 2013

I originally come from the Elkhart/Goshen/Mishawaka/South Bend area so of course I took note of this.

Unfortunately, the problem is that Indiana is one of the most hardcore, rock-ribbed "employment-at-will" states in the country.

It was a blessing that Pizza Hut bigwigs stepped in on this one...otherwise Tony Rohr would have been SOL.

LittleGirl

(8,280 posts)
32. me too.
Fri Nov 29, 2013, 01:03 PM
Nov 2013

have we 'met'? Grew up in SB and now live in the Tucson area.
And you are correct, IN and AZ are both 'at will' states. Glad Tony got his job back.

DissidentVoice

(813 posts)
53. I don't know, have we?
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 01:48 AM
Dec 2013

I was born in Goshen, lived both there and in Elkhart, worked mostly in South Bend, served in the Air National Guard at Fort Wayne, met my wife, moved to her hometown of Brazil, Indiana (a shitehole of the worst order) and then we moved here to Michigan in '07.

I haven't been back to Indiana since '07 and have no reason to go.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
10. No pizza on Turkey day
Thu Nov 28, 2013, 10:55 PM
Nov 2013

Then make something else. Pretend we're back in the 70's and EVERYTHING is closed except 7/11.

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
22. I am really astounded by the lack of respect and concern for low wage workers
Fri Nov 29, 2013, 11:28 AM
Nov 2013

Jeeze, your thread did take a really bad turn

CatWoman

(79,293 posts)
23. i had to put that asshole on ignore
Fri Nov 29, 2013, 11:35 AM
Nov 2013

it appears that all he wanted to do was argue and pick a fight just for the hell of it.

LittleGirl

(8,280 posts)
33. I just replied to him
Fri Nov 29, 2013, 01:23 PM
Nov 2013

I hope he reads those words I wrote and has some understanding...naw, he'll never get it.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
35. He rocked the boat.. watch for them to let him go later
Fri Nov 29, 2013, 01:43 PM
Nov 2013

when the scrutiny has waned. He publicly embarrassed the franchisee & got the "store" a lot of negative attention.

He may get hired back, but one way or another, he will be gone before long.

My hope is that someone else offers him a great opportunity and he jumps ship

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
37. These companies are reporting record profits but act like the one day off will break them....
Fri Nov 29, 2013, 02:25 PM
Nov 2013

When I was in Michigan the local Dairy Queen closed for the entire winter season.

 

maced666

(771 posts)
45. HA! GOOD for him...
Fri Nov 29, 2013, 04:37 PM
Nov 2013

Partial enslavement gets a punch back right in the nose.
nice uppercut!
Feels good to get a hit back every once in awhile.

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