Florida woman mistakes daughter for boyfriend, shoots and kills her

[davidn3600]

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A Winter Haven, Fla., mom is accused of shooting and killing her daughter while the girl held her 4-month-old daughter in her arms.

The Orlando Sentinel reports that Adele Bing, 52, told police she shot her daughter in a case of mistaken identity and that authorities should lock her up "for good" according to an arrest report.

Ruby Bing went to her mom's house on Monday night. Adele Bing told authorities her 26-year-old daughter was banging and kicking her door. Bing thought the person at the door was her boyfriend, whom she had just had a fight with. Bing armed herself with a .22 caliber gun, opened the door and shot her daughter in the chest, authorities said.

The baby was unharmed.

Bing told authorities her boyfriend had threatened to come back to her house and kill her.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/27/adele-bing-killed-daughter_n_4350449.html

[JI7]

1. i think people who own guns see everything as a threat first

they think the worst thing first or maybe they want to because they want to use their guns.

also why don't these people call the police ? this one and the case of the teenager who knocked on that guy's home after getting into an accident are cases where the person was outside of the home and these people just shoot not seeing who/what they are shooting at. and they don't think to even call the cops ?

[tabasco]

9. Yes, they are cowards

Living in fear, they need to tote guns to feel safe.

Sucks to be them and it sucks to live in a society with them.

[mynaturalrights]

14. How so?

If you walk around with a hammer all the time everything is a nail.

[eqfan592]

15. That's the dumbest saying I've ever heard.

If you walk around with money in your pocket, everyone you see is a cash register. If you walk around with food, everybody is a mouth to feed. Huh????

As for how so, sitting here making assumptions about the motivations of millions of millions of people, then from those assumptions making broad generalizations about those millions of people so you can feel superior to them is pretty ignorant in my book.

[mynaturalrights]

19. You may think it's dumb but more often than not it rings true

when it comes to always carrying a firearm in a high stress situation.

[mokawanis]

24. If you walked around with a cash register or some food

you wouldn't use them to kill a loved one. These kind of stories are common and will remain so, because in the US you don't have to have your shit together, or get much training to own a gun. If we had a dependable method of determining whether or not an individual could responsibly own a gun I think quite a few of the gun nuts out there would have to go without.

[mynaturalrights]

31. We have lost more people here in 1 year killed by guns than 12 years in Afghanistan

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/28/gun-deaths-since-newtown_n_4165061.html

[renie408]

27. I think you do not undefstand the saying.

The reason everything is a nail when you have a hammer is because hammers are extremely limited in their use. Hammers are pretty much limited to banging in nails or removing them. Guns are also limited in their use. Pretty much all you can do with a gun is shoot something. Once the gun is out, your options are limited.

[renie408]

25. Given the number incidents like this one

I am not sure your emotional reaction has much merit.

This young woman would be alive if her mother had not owned a gun and lived in an era which has led her to believe that itbis appropriate to lead with it in sketchy circilumstances.

[otohara]

37. 10,987 Dead From Guns Since Newtown

is completely off base!

[mynaturalrights]

12. Even worse

The article says she opened the door and still shot her. We don't have the whole story...

[stevenleser]

57. Yep, part of the reason they have guns is their level of paranoia is higher than most.

So it naturally follows they are going to be more likely to perceive threats and believe those threats to be more serious than they are and needing a higher amount of force in response, specifically, the guns they own.

[Oakenshield]

2. And the tragedy of gun violence continues....

Sadly cases like this one are fairly common. The sensible solution is to increase firearm regulations, and make a number of rigorous training courses mandatory before being allowed to purchase or otherwise transfer a firearm. Personally I'd just ban guns all together. If people still want to hunt they can get into archery.

[Boom Sound 416]

26. This tragedy is not fairly common

Which is why it's a news story. It's an extremely uncommon occurrence.

Their are 360 million guns in a nation of 308 million people.

[renie408]

28. The number of guns is high

The number of gun owners is less so. Most people own more than one gun. Only 34% of households in America have a gun.

[Boom Sound 416]

29. 34 % of households is nearly 40 million households

Which is why this story is anything but common

[mynaturalrights]

32. Most aren't even reported anymore because it has become so common

for people to die or be wounded by a firearm in this country

[Boom Sound 416]

33. Gun data is very well recorded and reported.

Starvation, domestic abuse, drug addiction

I would argue those atrocities are far more under reported

[mynaturalrights]

34. I agree on those points but it rarely makes national head lines

It's more local when you pick up your paper in any large city on shooting deaths.

[Boom Sound 416]

36. I'm sorry, not following you

[mynaturalrights]

38. You wrote

"Which is why this story is anything but common"

The point I was trying to make not very well is we have sometimes 5 to 10 shootings a night
in major cites across the US.
It's a blip on the local paper and that's all it becomes.

Sometimes the MSM will run with a gun death story if they think it will bring ratings
but most times it's gone the next day because shooting deaths have become so common in the U.S

[Boom Sound 416]

39. Thanks. Agreed.

No question gun violence is a daily occurrence in America. And no question that the msm only covers outrageous examples every now and then and in less than a 24 hour cycle.

My point is this (OP) occurrence is what's uncommon relative to gun violence.

[mynaturalrights]

42. gotcha

agree , Mother , daughter shooting is very uncommon

[Boom Sound 416]

43. That's all I'm sayin'

[mynaturalrights]

48. Sorry , I was speaking in more of a general issue to gun violence in our country

[renie408]

45. There were 851 gun accidental.gun deaths

Last year. You could read 2.3 of these stories a day. That might be rare enough for you, but I think there is room for improvement.

[Boom Sound 416]

47. Always room for improvement.

Isn't that what all this whole human comedy is all about?

Not perfection, but the pursuit of it?

[renie408]

49. Yep

I think that's where both sides of so many issues get hung up. If we would all just strive to do better, we might not always be in some sort of impasse.

[Boom Sound 416]

53. ...

[alarimer]

40. 10,000 + dead by gun violence since Newtown

Which was, what, a year or so ago? That IS far too common.

I hate gun apologists.

[Boom Sound 416]

41. That's not my point

And I'm not a gun apologist. Don't own guns, don't really like guns.

I like freedom and equality and neither are a la carte

[LAGC]

3. Florida.

'Nuff said.

[MoonRiver]

5. yep

[llmart]

7. "Floridiots"

n/t

[etherealtruth]

17. Sadly, this shit happens everywhere

(I know your response was tongue in cheek)

Unfortunately many gun owners feel emboldened by their guns and see threats where none exist.

this is tragic and a symptom (on many levels) of a sick, sick society.

[B Calm]

4. If everybody had a gun, nobody would get shot.

Sarcasm

[ileus]

6. Always ID your target...

No reason not to light up your target before defending yourself.


I put a light on the rail of my latest HD pistol.

[tabasco]

10. What a sad life you must have

Living in fear of all the "targets" in the world.

My sympathy.

[eqfan592]

13. Your sympathy is better saved for yourself.

Living in ignorance of so many people and with that much of a sense of superiority over them has to be exhausting.

[ileus]

50. Sad? Ha....not a chance.

Good job, great family...excellent marriage.

Hell I even own a Jeep. (15 years now)

[Art_from_Ark]

8. So the daughter was banging and kicking the door

but not saying anything?

[99Forever]

16. Mo gunz, mo gunz, mo gunz!

If only that daughter had a big ol' badass gunz to shoot her mother with, this tragedy could have been avoided!

[etherealtruth]

18. "Mo Gunz"

Sure seems to be the answer for many

[99Forever]

21. Funny thing is...

... I've managed to live over 60 years without a mo gunz and have yet to encounter a single incident in all of those years that would have been made better if there were mo gunz present. Not once. Ever.

[etherealtruth]

22. 52 years for me

[lame54]

20. If only the daughter and the baby each had a gun...

everything would have turned out fine

[randr]

23. OOPs, sorry just an accident, move on

[Vattel]

30. Once again, guns prove invaluable as a means of self-defense!

(sarcasm)

[Eleanors38]

35. BIG NEWS! Winter Haven declares war on U.S.S.R.!

[rocktivity]

44. From the local affiliate

Last edited Fri Nov 29, 2013, 01:19 PM - Edit history (8)

WINTER HAVEN (FOX 13) - Adele Bing, 52, faces second-degree murder charges in the death of her daughter Ruby. Investigators say it all started with an argument between Adele and her boyfriend...earlier Monday...(She)...hit (him) over the head...(He) went to a hospital to be treated, but when there was a knock on Bing's door at 8:45 p.m., she thought it was him returning home.

Bing armed herself with a baseball bat and a gun, police say, and as she opened the door, she accidentally fired a shot.

It was not Lane at the door, but Bing's daughter Ruby. The 25-year-old, who was holding her 4-month-old daughter, was hit in the chest and died at the scene...

An "accidental" shot to the chest that completely missed the baby? "Banging" on the door while holding a baby? If the door had a peep hole, why didn't Bing use it? The daughter didn't say anything along the lines of "Mom, it's me?" Was Bing expecting her daughter and grandchild at 8:45 PM? Did Bing ask, "Who is it?"

If Bing didn't want the boyfriend returning home, and he had threatened to kill her, why didn't she file domestic violence charges? And most important of all, if Bing thought there was a killer knocking on her door, WHY DIDN'T SHE KEEP IT CLOSED AND CALL THE POLICE? Ordinarily, I would consider this an open-and-shut case of voluntary manslaughter, but there's reason to suspect intent a conscious intent to kill.


rocktivity

[nyquil_man]

51. It's sounds as though she wanted to go to jail.

But, Christ, you don't have to kill somebody to accomplish that.

[Vashta Nerada]

52. What's with gun nuts shooting first and asking questions later?

[Iggo]

56. Fear.

[Turbineguy]

54. An all around tragedy.

Go out and buy a gun! You too could experience such happiness!

Maybe the boyfriend could have dialed back the rhetoric or would it have damaged his masculinity too much?

[davidn3600]

55. Apparently the dispute had been ongoing for awhile and the police were just getting involved

Earlier the boyfriend was at the hospital getting treatment for a head wound where the girlfriend had hit him in the head with that same gun.

The police were called to the hospital. They began interviewing the boyfriend. While that was going on the woman shot her daughter. Which raises the question if the daughter didnt show up, would she had shot at the police when they knocked at the door?

[uppityperson]

58. Locking, does not meet GD SOP

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