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GOP And Religious Rights Goal - Make Family Planning/Contraception A Criminal Act. (Original Post) TheMastersNemesis Nov 2013 OP
I think the goal is to get back to the "good old days" gollygee Nov 2013 #1
+1 Dawson Leery Nov 2013 #2
What had high tax RATES, not high taxes joeglow3 Nov 2013 #8
I doubt they've thought this through jmowreader Nov 2013 #3
so what? there are real things to worry about- like the more prosaic cali Nov 2013 #4
I've recommended this book before HeiressofBickworth Nov 2013 #5
Now That I Am Near 70 A Review Of The Past Has Revealed To Me That It Was Never That Good. TheMastersNemesis Nov 2013 #6
I bet the Francis fans will poo poo this OP even as they promote their anti contraception Bluenorthwest Nov 2013 #7

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
1. I think the goal is to get back to the "good old days"
Fri Nov 29, 2013, 12:03 PM
Nov 2013

Which were not really good.

But there is a myth about them. Things that are not the same: women now have control over their reproductive lives, and therefore their lives as a whole. But of course that means women have the ability to make choices they couldn't make before, and indeed are making a variety of choices that make the world look different.

It also accounts for the racism and homophobia. Those groups were heavily controlled and/or invisible once upon a time, and the right would like them to be in those situations again.

Now, we had high taxes and a very big government in those days, and the right forgets that. I've read a theory that they didn't mind the idea of big government until the government was set up so people of color could also access government programs. When white people were almost exclusively the benefits of big government, it was not a problem for the right.

 

joeglow3

(6,228 posts)
8. What had high tax RATES, not high taxes
Sat Nov 30, 2013, 10:00 AM
Nov 2013

Taxes are a function if TWO numbers - taxable income and tax rates. Rates were high, but damn near everything was deductible, resulting in insanely taxable income numbers. It was not uncommon for people to have a taxable income of zero. You can have a rate of 100%, but if you multiply it by zero, you collect zero in taxes.

This is why we saw the creation if the alternative minimum tax.

jmowreader

(50,553 posts)
3. I doubt they've thought this through
Sat Nov 30, 2013, 05:55 AM
Nov 2013

Enforcing the Romanian abortion ban took half the country's finances and doubled the size of the government. Which makes you wonder: if they don't want the military to shrink and they want to create a new agency that's bigger than the defense department, how are they going to accomplish this smaller-government thing?

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
4. so what? there are real things to worry about- like the more prosaic
Sat Nov 30, 2013, 06:05 AM
Nov 2013

TRAP laws that have destroyed abortion rights in state after state. No offense, but you go after the glittery object with your op and easy outrage.

Logically, this isn't a big concern. The whole personhood push has been a huge bust. Pharma isn't about to line up with these nuts- no other corporations are either.

HeiressofBickworth

(2,682 posts)
5. I've recommended this book before
Sat Nov 30, 2013, 06:06 AM
Nov 2013

The Way We Never Were by Stephanie Koontz. I recommend it every time the subject turns to how wonderful things were in the past.

So far, no one has reported back that they have actually read it.

 

TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
6. Now That I Am Near 70 A Review Of The Past Has Revealed To Me That It Was Never That Good.
Sat Nov 30, 2013, 09:08 AM
Nov 2013

After I got my BFA degree in Drama and Art I never imagined how it would shape my perspective and view of my country and my world. The country really changed for the worse after Kennedy was assassinated. And now when I looked at that event recently I could see how naive I was at 19. I did not know then the bitter hatred of Kennedy and his family in the US. The hatred of him an the division of the country was every bit as bad as i is now with Obama.

The Colorado recalls revealed to me that white supremacists were key in all these recalls. At our press conference after the resignation the haters, bigots, racists and Aryan nation types came out to take over. Our senator was Jewish and the whisper campaign was right out of Nazi German in the 1930's. And it made me sick and sad.

We have a growing cancer in this country with the white supremacist movement. These people are the offspring of individuals who supposedly inhabited our glorious past that never was. I will write down the title of the book to see if I can find it. You are correct though if the subject of that book is what I believe it is, I am sure I will find it to be right on to what I am realizing now.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
7. I bet the Francis fans will poo poo this OP even as they promote their anti contraception
Sat Nov 30, 2013, 09:33 AM
Nov 2013

hero. 'It's ok that he is anti choice and hates gay people, he drives an old car!'

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