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By Colin Freeman
8:58PM GMT 30 Nov 2013
A pregnant woman has had her baby forcibly removed by caesarean section by social workers.
Essex social services obtained a High Court order against the woman that allowed her to be forcibly sedated and her child to be taken from her womb.
The council said it was acting in the best interests of the woman, an Italian who was in Britain on a work trip, because she had suffered a mental breakdown.
The baby girl, now 15 months old, is still in the care of social services, who are refusing to give her back to the mother, even though she claims to have made a full recovery.
The case has developed into an international legal row, with lawyers for the woman describing it as unprecedented.
full: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/10486452/Woman-has-child-taken-from-her-womb-by-social-services.html
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)She had a fucking panic attack. Panic attacks happen. She had neglected to take her medicine,which led to the panic attack. And now that becomes an excuse to refuse to return her baby. what the goddam motherfuck. What if she forgets to take her medicine again. Jeebus fucking Krist on a Kracker.
She's not British; she's Italian. They didn't even bother to contact her family in Italy.
Just fucking drugged her up and stole her baby. Kidnapping, by any other name.
Remind me to NEVER visit the UK, EVER. Fucking insane asylum over there.
And this is JUST the sort of government intrusion and control that the rightwingers and teabaggers fear.
get the red out
(13,467 posts)If she were actually insane, which anxiety is not, speaking as someone who has anxiety disorders; why wasn't her family and Italian social services contacted? Perhaps someone in her family could have promised to care for the baby if that were necessary AFTER birth.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Do you believe everything on Fox News too?
Because the Torygraph isn't much better than Fox, if any. I would take anything written there with a truckload of salt.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)And had no problem naming names, in terms of the judges involved in this kidnapping?
I don't watch or read Fox news, and I rarely stray off the Guardian, but I don't believe the Telegraph would make this up and name names without some kind of evidence backing it up.
Note that this is not the first article about the situation, so there has been time for the accused to come forward with their version of the truth, sue for defamation or whatever, etc.
And I don't consider forcibly sedating, performing a caesarian section without consent, and kidnapping to be healthcare.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)And every society has officials that overstep the bounds of what that society normally allows.
There are plenty of Orwellian outrages that happen right here in the USA, we read of them regularly here on DU.
Bear in mind that medical personnel in the USA oversaw deliberate torture not all that long ago, would foreigners be justified in avoiding the USA thanks to the behavior of those people?
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)I remember when a wingnut said that if Stephen Hawking lived in the UK he would have been dead long ago thanks to socialized medicine there.
Hawking was at pains to point out he is a citizen of the UK and lives there yet.
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)get the red out
(13,467 posts)Poor woman, that is like something you would hear about in some totalitarian regime where human rights are nonexistent.
Th1onein
(8,514 posts)How dare they?
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)WTF is going on?
mynaturalrights
(97 posts)when we give government more power over us.
On one side we want our own government to get involved more in our lives
Yet at the same time we say they should stay out of our lives.
Stuff like this will be the outcome when people give up their natural born rights to a government.
CorrectOfCenter
(101 posts)but it's important in society that we continue to protect those that can't protect themselves and not let horrific events like this derail that mission.
liberalhistorian
(20,818 posts)even thought it had power and jurisdiction over her, considering she was NOT a citizen. Their actions constitute nothing less than international kidnapping, especially since they never even bothered to contact her own family in the country that DID have jurisdiction over her.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)Fla Dem
(23,699 posts)Why wasn't she immediately returned to Italy under medical supervision? Where was her family, husband, parents, siblings. Did they even know? Were they notified. This is so wrong on so many levels. The baby is now an Italian and British citizen.