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kpete

(72,902 posts)
Sun Mar 11, 2012, 12:04 PM Mar 2012

Key Republicans beginning to admit they've lost the culture wars

Republicans beginning to admit they've lost the culture wars:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/...

One main concern going forward, key Hill Republicans say, is to avoid falling into more social-issue debates, which have hurt the broader party image and could affect down-ballot races for the House and Senate.

“To the extent that the focus in this cycle is on the economy, it’s better for Republicans. I think that’s probably where the stronger case for Republican change can be made,” said Rep. Patrick Meehan (R-Pa.), who managed presidential hopeful Rick Santorum’s 1994 campaign for the Senate but remains neutral in the presidential race. “I think we’re stronger when we’re talking about economics.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/as-gop-waits-for-dust-to-settle-party-leaders-sharpen-case-for-reelection/2012/03/08/gIQAJ5Cy3R_story.html

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DJ13

(23,671 posts)
1. “I think we’re stronger when we’re talking about economics.”
Sun Mar 11, 2012, 12:43 PM
Mar 2012

Yeah, the Bush years were so wonderful for the average American..........

Major Nikon

(36,925 posts)
9. It's not that they are so strong, it's that the Democrats are so weak
Sun Mar 11, 2012, 02:36 PM
Mar 2012

Democratic economic policies are actually better for everyone, including rich people. The party should be playing this up, but they don't and effectively surrender the field to the GOP.

ThomThom

(1,486 posts)
12. there's you cue Dems go after them on the economy..... the bloom is off the rose
Sun Mar 11, 2012, 05:14 PM
Mar 2012

if you haven't taken too much money from corporations
but the trickle down, lower taxes, off shore jobs economic philosophy is failing and should be easy to prove

bluerum

(6,109 posts)
2. Criminy. If they think the economy is their strong suit
Sun Mar 11, 2012, 12:59 PM
Mar 2012

they are even more delusional than I thought.

I suppose though, that if half your constituents are math challenged that might work in your favor.

Vincardog

(20,234 posts)
3. The only reason they have a ghost of a chance is the the democratic PARTY leaders have refused
Sun Mar 11, 2012, 01:10 PM
Mar 2012

to pound on their failures in the economic social and political realms.

If only we had progressives demanding the GOP take responsibility for the abject failure of their policies.

 

mick063

(2,424 posts)
4. They pound alright.
Sun Mar 11, 2012, 01:15 PM
Mar 2012

They just need access. Folks are addicted to FOX news like crack and they will never see an argument for progressive issues there.

When you are pissed that hotel maids in New York City belong to a union and just negotiated a nice middle class living, there isn't time to talk about Bush tax breaks for the wealthy, two prolonged wars, and a zero oversight economic policy that pushed our nation into such huge debt.
 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
5. I love this ...
Sun Mar 11, 2012, 01:17 PM
Mar 2012

“To the extent that the focus in this cycle is on the economy, it’s better for Republicans. I think that’s probably where the stronger case for Republican change can be made,” ....

Well, just yesterday .... This from Santorum:

"“You hear now the media starting to say, oh well, looks like the economy is getting better,” Santorum told supporters Saturday night in Springfield, Mo., shortly after the Associated Press declared him the winner of the Kansas caucuses. “You know, the economy may be getting better and Republicans may lose their edge on that issue. Well, if that was the only issue in this race, that may or may not be the case, we don’t know.”

So ... Key party members want to talk about the economy .... a key GOP candidate pivots AWAY from economic issues, because it highlights Obama's strong suit ....

HAH ! ..... Their nides are so tightly wound in a bunch, they don't know if they're coming or going ....

Delightful ! ...

wiggs

(8,812 posts)
6. Not just culture wars....their positions on nearly any of the major issues is NOT
Sun Mar 11, 2012, 01:43 PM
Mar 2012

favored by majority of americans. If you ask the public, issue by issue, how they stand you get huge majorities favoring the moderate or progressive position. This is despite round the clock pissing on anything except the Limbaugh/Hannity view of the world.

On the other hand, if you make the survey a question of party favorability then the result are more even. This is because of the last 30 years of polarization and misinformation.

It's been this way for a long time....dems have the issues but not the tactics, messaging, media infrastructure, and willingness to go low.

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
10. Meehan's too much. I quit being a republican BECAUSE of their economic views
Sun Mar 11, 2012, 02:44 PM
Mar 2012

As was said short/sweet in the post above: They got nothin'

backscatter712

(26,357 posts)
11. That means a key strategy for us Democrats is to troll them on social issues.
Sun Mar 11, 2012, 02:58 PM
Mar 2012

The more we bring them up, the more we can push Republicans into going apeshit on the social issues and putting their positions on record, the more we win.

If they flip-flop on the social-issues, we can call them flip-floppers, and their fundie base will rebel. We win!

If they don't, they lose women voters, minority voters, friends of the GLBT community, etc. We win!

niyad

(132,446 posts)
13. hey, you clueless cretins, you did NOT "fall into the social issue debates", YOU STARTED THEM
Sun Mar 11, 2012, 05:31 PM
Mar 2012

One main concern going forward, key Hill Republicans say, is to avoid falling into more social-issue debates,
 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
14. The economy is a total loser issue for GOPers this cycle
Sun Mar 11, 2012, 05:34 PM
Mar 2012

That they're continuing to pretend otherwise only tips their hand, and it's a shockingly weak one.

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