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[Robb]

1. Ron Paul already has a huge opening.

[tridim]

2. +1

[Enrique]

3. rofl

[DocMac]

4. A DUzy for that post. lol nt

[dionysus]

12. LOL.

[MineralMan]

14. A DUZY if I ever saw one!

And I've seen one. I'm pretty sure Ron Paul's brain fell out of that opening, but I could be wrong...

[grantcart]

22. snort

[WI_DEM]

5. why don't you advocate for Ron Paul elsewhere.

[dionysus]

13. +1

[SidDithers]

16. +1...nt

Sid

[drakonyx]

19. Advocate for Ron Paul?

I'm not advocating for him. This is an analysis piece. I have no intention of supporting him. Please read the entire article.

[musette_sf]

29. OH RLY?

?1229112642

All I see on the NDAA as regards R Paul is that he was ABSENT for the vote.

"Can't prove I voted fer it, can't prove I voted agin it".

[spanone]

6. i don't think so.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

7. This is not (or should not) be a defining issue for Obama/Paul

Yucky as hell, yeah, but Paul would be a horrible POTUS in so many ways. Sometimes you have to look at the big picture when deciding who you want for POTUS and can't focus on a single issue.

[inademv]

8. Didn't Paul not even give a speech about the NDAA?

I know he voted no on it (like he has on every piece of legislation aimed at helping the middle class), but did he even bother giving a speech in the debate time?

[ProSense]

9. What

"Obama has all but abdicated his role as a protector of civil liberties"

...nonsense. Ron Paul is a racist who wants to repeal the Civil Rights Act and people are trying to champion him as a "protector of civil liberties"?

Holder Stands Up for the Right to Vote
http://www.democraticunderground.com/100225948

[ProSense]

10. Ron Paul Outreach Coordinator Once Blamed Gay Marriage For Rain And Crop Failure

Ron Paul Outreach Coordinator Once Blamed Gay Marriage For Rain And Crop Failure | Right Wing Watch reports that the man running GOP presidential candidate Ron Paul’s church outreach in Iowa, Mike Heath, formerly of the Maine Family Policy Council and American Family Association, once suggested that gay marriage was to blame for Maine’s “endless rain and gloom.” “Our leaders allowed a cloud of error to hide the light of reason, and then the rain began,” he wrote. “Our crops are faring like our moods. The potato crop is blighted, and corn and fruit fields wither,” he added. Heath’s embarrassing antics led to his dismissal by the rest of the anti-gay marriage movement, until he cropped up recently in Paul’s campaign. As Chris Moody reports, Paul hired Heath to win over the social conservatives who dominate the Iowa caucus. Though Paul professes to be a libertarian, he seems to have yielded to polling that indicates support for civil unions or gay marriage is a “deal killer” for GOP caucus goers.

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/12/09/386247/ron-paul-outreach-coordinator-once-blamed-gay-marriage-for-rain-and-crop-failure/

Ron Paul Condemns Obama's Decision to Abandon DOMA
http://theiowarepublican.com/2011/ron-paul-condemns-obama%E2%80%99s-decision-to-abandon-doma/

[dionysus]

11. Ron Paul isn't going to gain shit.

[SidDithers]

15. People who have the opinion that Ron Paul would be a good President...

are too stupid to be given the right to vote.

Sid

[MineralMan]

17. Like Ron Paul, do you?

Enamored of his politics, are you?

This is Democratic Underground. We're not big Ron Paul fans here.

[drakonyx]

20. Ummmm, no

This is an analysis. Don't know how you could conclude that I'm a Ron Paul fan considering the piece talks about him eviscerating the social safety net. I'm no Ron Paul fan.

[MineralMan]

23. Yah, well, OK then.

I think I may possibly stand corrected....

Could'a' fooled me...

[phleshdef]

18. Only because of the hysterical idiocy that seeks to lie about what the bill does.

[Luminous Animal]

21. Yes. The ACLU is just chocked full of hysterical idiots.

[phleshdef]

27. No one is always right about everything.

Not me and not the ACLU.

The law doesn't change the status quo of the past decade. That status quo should be changed. But pretending that it creates a problem that existed before this law and would exist, with or without this law, is dishonest. Though I don't think a lot of these critics, like the ACLU are being dishonest on purpose, but I do think they are being hysterically overreactive and that has caused them to come away from the whole thing with a misguided idea of what the bill does in terms of detainees.

[Hutzpa]

24. Why is this post allowed to stand?

Is this what we have become now? openly advocating for a republican candidate?

[MineralMan]

25. I don't know. Was it alerted on?

Seems like DUers are handling this bullshit OK to me.

[drakonyx]

30. Please read CAREFULLY

This article does not ADVOCATE a vote for Ron Paul. It merely comments that he's the one who stands to gain from this. ANALYSIS and ADVOCACY are two vastly different concepts.

[spanone]

26. please let us hide threads again....P L E A S E

[Hutzpa]

32. ditto on that

nt.

[AtomicKitten]

28. Pfft. As if.