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applegrove

(118,609 posts)
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 07:35 PM Dec 2013

Why so much hate for Mandela on the part of the GOP base?

Last edited Fri Dec 6, 2013, 09:36 PM - Edit history (1)

The whole GOP political strategy is based on the base hating african americans. What would happen if the base heard stories of one of the greatest leaders in the world who 1) chose love over hate 2) is black? It might grow the hearts of the base. Thus the stirring of the terrorist and communist memes in places where base voters of the GOP congregate. This is about the cornerstone memories the base has. And how the right wants to control what becomes the pinnacle in their bases' minds. The base might be moved by Mandela's humanity. Mandela's death is one of those events that make it into people's episodic memories (where were you when Mandela died?), which then become part of a person's personal narrative. This is about controlling the minds/hearts/narrative of the base. Teaching hate of Mandela is about politics in the USA and the 2014 elections. The base is a cult. They must 1)hate 2) hate African Americans. The GOP will fight to the death to keep it so.

My point is the GOP is very aware of tending the episodic memories/cornerstones of their base. That's how cults work. The GOP always goes all out when great Liberal leaders die or have anniversaries: Paul Wellstone, JFK, Mandela - the GOP was all over these events so no new liberals would be created.

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Why so much hate for Mandela on the part of the GOP base? (Original Post) applegrove Dec 2013 OP
gee I can't possibly imagine arely staircase Dec 2013 #1
Winner winner chicken dinner. NightWatcher Dec 2013 #2
in a country where 92% of the population is African malaise Dec 2013 #4
+1 uponit7771 Dec 2013 #10
The face of the base.. phasma ex machina Dec 2013 #27
Remember Falwell telling people in the early 80s to buy Krugerrands? hatrack Dec 2013 #3
underpants posted a timeline of Mandela haters in Good Reads. Here's the link: Electric Monk Dec 2013 #5
He's black. (n/t) Iggo Dec 2013 #6
It's not just the base of GOP voters who hate Mandela, despite the "nice" speeches by their AlinPA Dec 2013 #7
Because. all minorities are scary but the ones that giftedgirl77 Dec 2013 #8
Being black is not being a minority in South Africa MiniMe Dec 2013 #9
The question was pertaining to the GOP.... giftedgirl77 Dec 2013 #13
Typifies what the GOP is. The party base was invested in keeping a racists South Africa bluestate10 Dec 2013 #11
Republicans let go of the past very slowly. Skidmore Dec 2013 #12
You got it. Steeped in St. Ronnie, his gospel is all there to it. Dead and still rotting America. freshwest Dec 2013 #20
he is not an american caucasian. spanone Dec 2013 #14
Is this a trick question. grantcart Dec 2013 #15
The same reason they hate MLK. n/t duffyduff Dec 2013 #16
Because of the way SA Chuuku Davis Dec 2013 #17
The hell are you talking about? XemaSab Dec 2013 #18
Uh Chuuku Davis Dec 2013 #19
What are you talking about. For once the needs of 85% of the country are actually on the agenda applegrove Dec 2013 #21
Respectfully disagree Chuuku Davis Dec 2013 #23
You attribute all that to Mandela winning the presidency? mynaturalrights Dec 2013 #24
So the Southern US today is not as great a place as the Southern US during slavery. Because there applegrove Dec 2013 #25
Oh sure. Because these ignorant assholes just care so much about a place they can't Guy Whitey Corngood Dec 2013 #22
He's black. And mzteris Dec 2013 #26
He wrecked their ideal of the perfect country Warpy Dec 2013 #28
That's it, applegrove.. by Jove you've got it! Cha Dec 2013 #29

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
1. gee I can't possibly imagine
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 07:36 PM
Dec 2013

why a man who toppled white supremacy in his country isn't popular with the GOP base.

malaise

(268,913 posts)
4. in a country where 92% of the population is African
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 07:38 PM
Dec 2013

Meanwhile they hate the 12% of Afro-Americans who were brought to America in chains.
Fuck every one of them.

phasma ex machina

(2,328 posts)
27. The face of the base..
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 02:05 AM
Dec 2013


Looks like the old Faux (on the right, natch) put its best face on.

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hatrack

(59,583 posts)
3. Remember Falwell telling people in the early 80s to buy Krugerrands?
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 07:38 PM
Dec 2013

The idea was to help support the "freedom fighters" in Mozambique (Renamo) so they could protect us from the commies, whose number included Mandela.

Same shit, different page - hence the hate.

AlinPA

(15,071 posts)
7. It's not just the base of GOP voters who hate Mandela, despite the "nice" speeches by their
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 07:43 PM
Dec 2013

politicians, the hate runs deep throughout the elected GOP.

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
8. Because. all minorities are scary but the ones that
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 07:50 PM
Dec 2013

stand up to the shitty situations they are placed in & fight back scare the living daylights out of them. The party of white men don't like being told that their party is over. They have shown that time & time again & they never play nice about it.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
11. Typifies what the GOP is. The party base was invested in keeping a racists South Africa
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 09:15 PM
Dec 2013

whole. They lost. The lost sticks in the claw of those that are still alive. They are a dying breed, literally and figuratively.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
12. Republicans let go of the past very slowly.
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 09:20 PM
Dec 2013

As recently as the 1980s, this nation had labeled Nelson Mandela and the ANC as a terrorists. Reagan and Thatcher denounced Mandela and the ANC as terrorists . Israel was among the nations who joined in support of the apartheid government of South Africa. Because the Soviet Union supported the movement to end apartheid, the conservatives of this nation viewed the movement as a Communist threat. It took worldwide protests, including ones in this nation, to force the end of apartheid and to get the man released from prison. Many lost their lives in this endeavor. It does not surprise me that this attitude is so fiercely engrained in the right wing psyche, given that the extremists on the right tend to be racist in their outlook. It is such a righteous anger because those godless Commies are rolled up in their fear of other as well.

applegrove

(118,609 posts)
21. What are you talking about. For once the needs of 85% of the country are actually on the agenda
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 11:46 PM
Dec 2013

of the government. Their issues are not actually fixed...but at least their needs are being considered. Socially a million miles for where they were. A million miles better.

Chuuku Davis

(565 posts)
23. Respectfully disagree
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 12:31 AM
Dec 2013

But what do I know?
Left there because of the worsening crime,economy and food problems

 

mynaturalrights

(97 posts)
24. You attribute all that to Mandela winning the presidency?
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 12:34 AM
Dec 2013

Or is there more to it?

I would like to hear from someone that lived through this.

applegrove

(118,609 posts)
25. So the Southern US today is not as great a place as the Southern US during slavery. Because there
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 01:04 AM
Dec 2013

were pretty white houses dotting the countryside. Plantations they were called. And mansions. Same difference.

mzteris

(16,232 posts)
26. He's black. And
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 01:22 AM
Dec 2013

He represents the success of equality. Peace. Justice. Individualism within the workings of the state.

And he's black.


Warpy

(111,242 posts)
28. He wrecked their ideal of the perfect country
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 02:26 AM
Dec 2013

where white people lived in an upper middle class bubble and the only people of color they ever saw were the servants and laborers who were whisked out of town by sunset.

Cha

(297,133 posts)
29. That's it, applegrove.. by Jove you've got it!
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 02:48 AM
Dec 2013

Can't let any respect or love seep into their little consciousness for a Beloved World Icon of the Ages!

Whoa it must suck to be them.

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