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arcane1

(38,613 posts)
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 12:07 AM Dec 2013

Wow!! Nicotine Gum is one hell of a nicotine delivery system! What a way to quit!

I chewed and munched the gum for a good half-hour, and now I'm higher than I've been in years! Where have you been all this time, oh absurdly potent gum, and why won't you go away?

No wonder this stuff was currency in colonial times.

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Wow!! Nicotine Gum is one hell of a nicotine delivery system! What a way to quit! (Original Post) arcane1 Dec 2013 OP
You're not quitting you're just changing method of consumption. hobbit709 Dec 2013 #1
Oh I'm changing the method alright. arcane1 Dec 2013 #2
Keep in mind that nicotine is also used as a commercial bug killer. hobbit709 Dec 2013 #3
Yes, it is...just like salt is corrosive. N/T beevul Dec 2013 #9
I used it libodem Dec 2013 #5
Any way you can manage to quit is the right way Warpy Dec 2013 #11
Complete nonsense pipoman Dec 2013 #14
And you are still addicted to nicotene. hobbit709 Dec 2013 #16
No I'm not.. pipoman Dec 2013 #19
Thank you, Doctor Science. arcane1 Dec 2013 #22
Got that right hobbit709.....ya quit and it in the end it was cold turkey. a kennedy Dec 2013 #17
That is stupid to the point of malice cthulu2016 Dec 2013 #31
did someone pull your string? hobbit709 Dec 2013 #32
Nicotine is deadly Sgent Dec 2013 #39
My brother quit smoking with that, and later he quit the gum. hunter Dec 2013 #4
"Nicotine alone, without the smoke, isn't as likely to kill you, even if you never quit." NoOneMan Dec 2013 #8
Could just have well been the coffee. hunter Dec 2013 #10
I think alcohol is more often implicated in esophageal cancer than tobacco Voice for Peace Dec 2013 #27
I think about 3/4 cases are chronic drinking related NoOneMan Dec 2013 #44
that makes sense, because the poisons are going down there instead of into lungs. Voice for Peace Dec 2013 #45
Only people who pipoman Dec 2013 #13
I wasn't responding to the OP NoOneMan Dec 2013 #25
Your wording makes me think he was a tobacco chewer.... Bluenorthwest Dec 2013 #21
Yes. NoOneMan Dec 2013 #24
Is there something challenging about the phrase, "isn't as likely to kill you"? cthulu2016 Dec 2013 #34
Yes, very challenging when followed with "even if you never quit." NoOneMan Dec 2013 #43
Good luck. tammywammy Dec 2013 #6
Hey, good luck to you tammywammy.... a kennedy Dec 2013 #18
Isn't that the one that causes homicidal rage in 0.1% of users? Recursion Dec 2013 #29
Possibly tammywammy Dec 2013 #33
I used nicotine gum to quit about 15 years ago.... My Pet Goat Dec 2013 #7
I used the tablets pipoman Dec 2013 #12
Yes. You can learn to manage it over time. bemildred Dec 2013 #15
Did you actually chew it like regular gum... actslikeacarrot Dec 2013 #20
Yeah, but I got side-tracked for a little while, and the next thing I knew I was floating around... arcane1 Dec 2013 #23
I've been chewing it for 20 years. broiles Dec 2013 #26
Bingo. I've traded up my addiction... Recursion Dec 2013 #28
Thanks for the advice. I was a little over-zealous with my chewing last night. arcane1 Dec 2013 #30
Well, chewing & munching may not be the best method lillypaddle Dec 2013 #35
I do. I had been using it properly for a week before last night. arcane1 Dec 2013 #36
Well again lillypaddle Dec 2013 #41
I quit for 5 years, and then started again 10 years ago. arcane1 Dec 2013 #46
Good luck. TeamPooka Dec 2013 #37
I quit regular cigarettes a month ago. mstinamotorcity2 Dec 2013 #38
I've never smoked--does your response to the gum suggest that you mostly HereSince1628 Dec 2013 #40
I think the response was because I was chewing the gum a little too vigorously. arcane1 Dec 2013 #47
Interesting...I hadn't considered how the rate of release might be affected HereSince1628 Dec 2013 #48
What the hell? EnviroBat Dec 2013 #42

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
1. You're not quitting you're just changing method of consumption.
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 12:12 AM
Dec 2013

No different than snorting coke or shooting coke.

The only way to quit is to quit completely.

I speak from experience.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
2. Oh I'm changing the method alright.
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 12:19 AM
Dec 2013

I'm more high from nicotine than I've ever been, and not from smoking, and without all the side-effects of smoking. It's pretty cool, but I am glad it is relaxing now. It was rather intense for a moment. It may have been easier to deal with if I had been in the forest with friends

Warpy

(111,305 posts)
11. Any way you can manage to quit is the right way
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 02:16 AM
Dec 2013

A lot of people have tapered their dose down without realizing it by using the e-cigs.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
14. Complete nonsense
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 09:12 AM
Dec 2013

a huge part of the danger of smoking are the carcenegens in the smoke. A huge part of the addiction is the habit of lighting up. Eliminating the carcenegens and the habit will make this person less likely to die from the effects of smoking and make quitting completely more probable.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
19. No I'm not..
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 09:29 AM
Dec 2013

The glass is half empty..can't think positively..have to be dispariging. ..has no hope..can't take steps...my way is the only way..you cocaine in mainliner you..FFS

a kennedy

(29,686 posts)
17. Got that right hobbit709.....ya quit and it in the end it was cold turkey.
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 09:14 AM
Dec 2013

Hardest thing I've ever done in my life. Whew. May 2nd 2005 was my quit date. I did use the patch and Wellbutrin but, ya gotta just get nicotine out of your system, period.

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
31. That is stupid to the point of malice
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 01:07 PM
Dec 2013

Quitting smoking means quitting smoking.

Smoking is deadly. Nicotine use is not.

Your obsession with quitting nicotine is your personal issue and has nothing to do with the OP's desire to quit smoking.

And I have zero tolerance for the "running my mouth about nonsense is more important than whether you live or die" school of internet medicine.

Sgent

(5,857 posts)
39. Nicotine is deadly
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 03:52 PM
Dec 2013

it raises blood pressure and has effects on cardiovascular health.

That said, pure nicotine is much better for you than cigarettes, and its easier to quit the nicotine habbit after you quit the physical one (the act of smoking).

hunter

(38,322 posts)
4. My brother quit smoking with that, and later he quit the gum.
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 12:31 AM
Dec 2013

Nicotine alone is still bad stuff, but smoking is much, much worse.

Nicotine alone, without the smoke, isn't as likely to kill you, even if you never quit.

My chain-smoking, hard-drinking, dockyard Rosie-the-Riveter-Welder grandma died of esophagus cancer.

Not a nice way to go.

 

NoOneMan

(4,795 posts)
8. "Nicotine alone, without the smoke, isn't as likely to kill you, even if you never quit."
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 01:32 AM
Dec 2013

I just had a family member who was a non-smoking nicotine consumer get hit with a heart attack this week. The first thing the doctor told him was to quit the nicotine. The AHA makes a clear stand against it for a reason.

But if its more important than your health or your medical bills (or your risk pool's premium payments), then whatever floats your boat I guess.

hunter

(38,322 posts)
10. Could just have well been the coffee.
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 01:56 AM
Dec 2013

I'm speaking as a never-smoker no nicotine ever guy who's been admitted to the hospital twice from the ER for cardiac irregularities.

I can read my own EKG.

Sure, quitting nicotine is best. But quitting smoking is the first priority.

I remember when I was a little kid my dad quitting. It was hard for him.

My grandma smoked. It killed her. Most other people in my family lived well into their 90s and 100s if something entirely random didn't kill them first.




 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
27. I think alcohol is more often implicated in esophageal cancer than tobacco
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 12:23 PM
Dec 2013

but I'm no expert. Just knew some nonsmoking heavy
drinkers who died that way.

 

NoOneMan

(4,795 posts)
44. I think about 3/4 cases are chronic drinking related
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 05:30 PM
Dec 2013

Many of those people might also smoke too.


Smokeless tobacco increase esophageal cancer risk by about 60%.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
13. Only people who
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 09:02 AM
Dec 2013

are without a clue would get so negative about a positive first step for someone with a smoking addiction.

 

NoOneMan

(4,795 posts)
25. I wasn't responding to the OP
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 11:40 AM
Dec 2013

I was responding to someone who suggested that they could very well never quit consuming nicotine without a significant health risk (as it sounded to be worded).

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
34. Is there something challenging about the phrase, "isn't as likely to kill you"?
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 03:15 PM
Dec 2013

Seems straightforward. Isn't as likely to kill you.

Are you suggesting it is as likely to kill you?

 

NoOneMan

(4,795 posts)
43. Yes, very challenging when followed with "even if you never quit."
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 05:25 PM
Dec 2013

Only in consideration of a false dichotomy of continuous smoking vs smokeless nicotine consumption would that make any sense. When someone changes the administration of this drug with the very intent to quit it entirely, broadcasting a reassurance of reduced harm if they rescind their goals (of absolute harm reduction) seems to be a bit counterproductive to the intent of the OP.

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
6. Good luck.
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 12:42 AM
Dec 2013

I'm currently on Chantix and I'm doing pretty good. I've been smoke-free since Thanksgiving.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
29. Isn't that the one that causes homicidal rage in 0.1% of users?
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 12:25 PM
Dec 2013

(Then again, quitting smoking causes homicidal rage in a greater percent, I think...)

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
33. Possibly
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 01:42 PM
Dec 2013

But I'm a red head so, there's no change in my normal personality.

I tried this medicine once before and I was nauseated really bad. So, this time after talking with my doctor we decided to just do half the normal dose. As long as I take it after eating a full meal I don't have any issues.

He strongly recommended Chantix over the other smoking cessation choices, that it has the best rate of success.

My Pet Goat

(413 posts)
7. I used nicotine gum to quit about 15 years ago....
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 01:02 AM
Dec 2013

The gum helped me first break the "habit" of smoking, which was (for me) incredibly strong. You know, one in the morning, several during breaks at work, one after you eat, etc. I couldn't believe how much I missed stepping outside for a quick five minute smoke at 10:30 in the morning. Fortunately I didn't have to deal with nicotine cravings at the same time and that helped me pull through.

Only when I felt I broke physical habits of smoking did I start reducing the nicotine levels (reducing the gum usage). I don't know what directions they have for the gum today, but back then the directions were too optimistic.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
12. I used the tablets
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 08:58 AM
Dec 2013

the dose was too high on them too. I broke them into 1/4s And after a couple months weened off by Substituting with Tic Tacs. Once the habit of smoking is overcome this takes like 6 weeks try subbing regular gum every other time. Good luck... and don't cave to the people who can't grasp the concept that breaking the smoking habit is more important than breaking the nicotine addiction....

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
15. Yes. You can learn to manage it over time.
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 09:12 AM
Dec 2013

I quit smoking cold-turkey in 1993 or so. Later I missed the nicotine for certain purposes (it's a stimulant) and took up the gum because I don't want to muck up my lungs again. You can work up a heck of a habit if you don't pay attention, but it's much easier to break than smoking, because you don't get the rush like through the lungs. It's potent, pure, cheap, and OTC.

And definitely not a good idea if you have heart problems, like cocaine and other stimulants.

actslikeacarrot

(464 posts)
20. Did you actually chew it like regular gum...
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 09:43 AM
Dec 2013

...for a half hour? When I used the gum, the directions said to chew it a few times then lodge it between my gums and cheek.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
23. Yeah, but I got side-tracked for a little while, and the next thing I knew I was floating around...
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 10:44 AM
Dec 2013

I've been using it properly for about 5 days. So far so good!

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
28. Bingo. I've traded up my addiction...
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 12:24 PM
Dec 2013

It's even harder to break...

watch out for the hiccups, though; it's a sign of overdose.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
30. Thanks for the advice. I was a little over-zealous with my chewing last night.
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 12:29 PM
Dec 2013

And I got got LIT UP!!

I've definitely toned it down though, I go through two pieces a day, as compared to 1.25 packs a day.

lillypaddle

(9,581 posts)
35. Well, chewing & munching may not be the best method
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 03:18 PM
Dec 2013

I'm surprised you don't have hiccups and heartburn. You realize that the nicotine is absorbed through the soft tissues of your mouth, don't you? Chew a few times and then "park" it in your cheek for a bit before you start up again. Good luck! (I'm using it right now, too)

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
36. I do. I had been using it properly for a week before last night.
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 03:21 PM
Dec 2013

I just had a momentary lapse and forgot that it wasn't regular gum

lillypaddle

(9,581 posts)
41. Well again
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 04:18 PM
Dec 2013

Good for you! And best of luck. I quit with the gum for about 4 years, and like a fool, started up again.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
46. I quit for 5 years, and then started again 10 years ago.
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 06:32 PM
Dec 2013

It's time! Besides, all my friends have quit by now, so when I'm out I feel like a leper with b.o.

mstinamotorcity2

(1,451 posts)
38. I quit regular cigarettes a month ago.
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 03:37 PM
Dec 2013

I have an E-cig for rough times. It helps keep the edge off. Its a 1.8 nicotine filter. The first thing I noticed was that I saved about $40.00 a week by quitting. That was a great incentive. For those who have never smoked, quitting can be a challenge for some. It has been for me. I don't know if I will last but I plan on to keep giving it the best that I got. Until I need nothing. Maybe a shot of Crown Royal Black. So far I have not bought any Tabaco products or have not asked other smokers for a cigarette. Asking other smokers for a cigarette is something I would find hard to do. When I started smoking my mom found out and told me that if I wanted to smoke I had to fund my own habit. She did not buy cigarettes. And if she caught me bumming she would put it on me. My mom is true panillow under the pillow. I haven't told her yet that I quit smoking. But can't wait until everyone notices that I don't smoke anymore.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
40. I've never smoked--does your response to the gum suggest that you mostly
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 03:56 PM
Dec 2013

held the cigarettes rather than sucked on them?

Just wondering about the dose-response relationship.

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