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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWow!! Nicotine Gum is one hell of a nicotine delivery system! What a way to quit!
I chewed and munched the gum for a good half-hour, and now I'm higher than I've been in years! Where have you been all this time, oh absurdly potent gum, and why won't you go away?
No wonder this stuff was currency in colonial times.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)No different than snorting coke or shooting coke.
The only way to quit is to quit completely.
I speak from experience.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)I'm more high from nicotine than I've ever been, and not from smoking, and without all the side-effects of smoking. It's pretty cool, but I am glad it is relaxing now. It was rather intense for a moment. It may have been easier to deal with if I had been in the forest with friends
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)beevul
(12,194 posts)It helped. Do what ever you have to. I thought the patches helped too.
Warpy
(111,305 posts)A lot of people have tapered their dose down without realizing it by using the e-cigs.
pipoman
(16,038 posts)a huge part of the danger of smoking are the carcenegens in the smoke. A huge part of the addiction is the habit of lighting up. Eliminating the carcenegens and the habit will make this person less likely to die from the effects of smoking and make quitting completely more probable.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)pipoman
(16,038 posts)The glass is half empty..can't think positively..have to be dispariging. ..has no hope..can't take steps...my way is the only way..you cocaine in mainliner you..FFS
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Tell me something I don't know
a kennedy
(29,686 posts)Hardest thing I've ever done in my life. Whew. May 2nd 2005 was my quit date. I did use the patch and Wellbutrin but, ya gotta just get nicotine out of your system, period.
cthulu2016
(10,960 posts)Quitting smoking means quitting smoking.
Smoking is deadly. Nicotine use is not.
Your obsession with quitting nicotine is your personal issue and has nothing to do with the OP's desire to quit smoking.
And I have zero tolerance for the "running my mouth about nonsense is more important than whether you live or die" school of internet medicine.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)Sgent
(5,857 posts)it raises blood pressure and has effects on cardiovascular health.
That said, pure nicotine is much better for you than cigarettes, and its easier to quit the nicotine habbit after you quit the physical one (the act of smoking).
hunter
(38,322 posts)Nicotine alone is still bad stuff, but smoking is much, much worse.
Nicotine alone, without the smoke, isn't as likely to kill you, even if you never quit.
My chain-smoking, hard-drinking, dockyard Rosie-the-Riveter-Welder grandma died of esophagus cancer.
Not a nice way to go.
NoOneMan
(4,795 posts)I just had a family member who was a non-smoking nicotine consumer get hit with a heart attack this week. The first thing the doctor told him was to quit the nicotine. The AHA makes a clear stand against it for a reason.
But if its more important than your health or your medical bills (or your risk pool's premium payments), then whatever floats your boat I guess.
hunter
(38,322 posts)I'm speaking as a never-smoker no nicotine ever guy who's been admitted to the hospital twice from the ER for cardiac irregularities.
I can read my own EKG.
Sure, quitting nicotine is best. But quitting smoking is the first priority.
I remember when I was a little kid my dad quitting. It was hard for him.
My grandma smoked. It killed her. Most other people in my family lived well into their 90s and 100s if something entirely random didn't kill them first.
Voice for Peace
(13,141 posts)but I'm no expert. Just knew some nonsmoking heavy
drinkers who died that way.
NoOneMan
(4,795 posts)Many of those people might also smoke too.
Smokeless tobacco increase esophageal cancer risk by about 60%.
Voice for Peace
(13,141 posts)pipoman
(16,038 posts)are without a clue would get so negative about a positive first step for someone with a smoking addiction.
NoOneMan
(4,795 posts)I was responding to someone who suggested that they could very well never quit consuming nicotine without a significant health risk (as it sounded to be worded).
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)is that the case?
NoOneMan
(4,795 posts)cthulu2016
(10,960 posts)Seems straightforward. Isn't as likely to kill you.
Are you suggesting it is as likely to kill you?
NoOneMan
(4,795 posts)Only in consideration of a false dichotomy of continuous smoking vs smokeless nicotine consumption would that make any sense. When someone changes the administration of this drug with the very intent to quit it entirely, broadcasting a reassurance of reduced harm if they rescind their goals (of absolute harm reduction) seems to be a bit counterproductive to the intent of the OP.
tammywammy
(26,582 posts)I'm currently on Chantix and I'm doing pretty good. I've been smoke-free since Thanksgiving.
a kennedy
(29,686 posts)we're all pulling for ya.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)(Then again, quitting smoking causes homicidal rage in a greater percent, I think...)
tammywammy
(26,582 posts)But I'm a red head so, there's no change in my normal personality.
I tried this medicine once before and I was nauseated really bad. So, this time after talking with my doctor we decided to just do half the normal dose. As long as I take it after eating a full meal I don't have any issues.
He strongly recommended Chantix over the other smoking cessation choices, that it has the best rate of success.
My Pet Goat
(413 posts)The gum helped me first break the "habit" of smoking, which was (for me) incredibly strong. You know, one in the morning, several during breaks at work, one after you eat, etc. I couldn't believe how much I missed stepping outside for a quick five minute smoke at 10:30 in the morning. Fortunately I didn't have to deal with nicotine cravings at the same time and that helped me pull through.
Only when I felt I broke physical habits of smoking did I start reducing the nicotine levels (reducing the gum usage). I don't know what directions they have for the gum today, but back then the directions were too optimistic.
pipoman
(16,038 posts)the dose was too high on them too. I broke them into 1/4s And after a couple months weened off by Substituting with Tic Tacs. Once the habit of smoking is overcome this takes like 6 weeks try subbing regular gum every other time. Good luck... and don't cave to the people who can't grasp the concept that breaking the smoking habit is more important than breaking the nicotine addiction....
bemildred
(90,061 posts)I quit smoking cold-turkey in 1993 or so. Later I missed the nicotine for certain purposes (it's a stimulant) and took up the gum because I don't want to muck up my lungs again. You can work up a heck of a habit if you don't pay attention, but it's much easier to break than smoking, because you don't get the rush like through the lungs. It's potent, pure, cheap, and OTC.
And definitely not a good idea if you have heart problems, like cocaine and other stimulants.
actslikeacarrot
(464 posts)...for a half hour? When I used the gum, the directions said to chew it a few times then lodge it between my gums and cheek.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)I've been using it properly for about 5 days. So far so good!
broiles
(1,369 posts)Use the 2 mg gum and chew slowly so you won't get high.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)It's even harder to break...
watch out for the hiccups, though; it's a sign of overdose.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)And I got got LIT UP!!
I've definitely toned it down though, I go through two pieces a day, as compared to 1.25 packs a day.
lillypaddle
(9,581 posts)I'm surprised you don't have hiccups and heartburn. You realize that the nicotine is absorbed through the soft tissues of your mouth, don't you? Chew a few times and then "park" it in your cheek for a bit before you start up again. Good luck! (I'm using it right now, too)
arcane1
(38,613 posts)I just had a momentary lapse and forgot that it wasn't regular gum
lillypaddle
(9,581 posts)Good for you! And best of luck. I quit with the gum for about 4 years, and like a fool, started up again.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)It's time! Besides, all my friends have quit by now, so when I'm out I feel like a leper with b.o.
TeamPooka
(24,237 posts)mstinamotorcity2
(1,451 posts)I have an E-cig for rough times. It helps keep the edge off. Its a 1.8 nicotine filter. The first thing I noticed was that I saved about $40.00 a week by quitting. That was a great incentive. For those who have never smoked, quitting can be a challenge for some. It has been for me. I don't know if I will last but I plan on to keep giving it the best that I got. Until I need nothing. Maybe a shot of Crown Royal Black. So far I have not bought any Tabaco products or have not asked other smokers for a cigarette. Asking other smokers for a cigarette is something I would find hard to do. When I started smoking my mom found out and told me that if I wanted to smoke I had to fund my own habit. She did not buy cigarettes. And if she caught me bumming she would put it on me. My mom is true panillow under the pillow. I haven't told her yet that I quit smoking. But can't wait until everyone notices that I don't smoke anymore.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)held the cigarettes rather than sucked on them?
Just wondering about the dose-response relationship.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)by the rate of chewing.
EnviroBat
(5,290 posts)I've been chewing these patches for weeks, and they tase awful! They make a gum...?