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I don't understand what the big deal is..... (Original Post) Playinghardball Dec 2013 OP
Exact-o-mundo! mazzarro Dec 2013 #1
Very few logical people are offended by what you say. BlueJazz Dec 2013 #2
71% of Americans agree. Chipper Chat Dec 2013 #3
Well put!! ailsagirl Dec 2013 #4
Not sure I agree. Nine Dec 2013 #5
Kids aren't ever traumatized at much though. Neoma Dec 2013 #6
LOL! Nine Dec 2013 #7
Mine eyes have seen the glory Martin Eden Dec 2013 #8
I agree Sgent Dec 2013 #9
Sometimes it is easier to put on slippers... bvar22 Dec 2013 #10
Happy Birthday! rucky Dec 2013 #11
Felicitous Winter Solstice Fumesucker Dec 2013 #12

Nine

(1,741 posts)
5. Not sure I agree.
Tue Dec 10, 2013, 10:48 PM
Dec 2013

By default I am not offended if someone wishes me "Merry Christmas." But from a clerk in a shop I think "Happy Holidays" is more sensitive. It's the same as singing "Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer" in a public school. I don't think the non-Christians are going to be permanently traumatized by it. It's certainly not in the same ballpark as "Joy to the World" or something like that. But wouldn't it be nicer to sing one of the winter songs that don't allude to Christmas, even to the Santa stuff? Likewise a clerk in a shop saying "Merry Christmas" isn't the end of the world, but if I knew the owners of the store were right-wingers who totally bought into the "War on Christmas" crap and who considered "Happy Holidays" to be a liberal plot, I'd take the "Merry Christmas" from the clerks in a different way. Of course I probably wouldn't be shopping at that store to begin with, but you see my point I hope.

Neoma

(10,039 posts)
6. Kids aren't ever traumatized at much though.
Tue Dec 10, 2013, 10:54 PM
Dec 2013

Here's a nice Christmas song that they sung a lot as I was a child.

Joy to the world, the teachers dead.
We barbecued her head!
What happened to her body?
We flushed it down the potty.
And round and round it goes,
and round and round it goes.
And ROUND it goes.

Martin Eden

(15,628 posts)
8. Mine eyes have seen the glory
Tue Dec 10, 2013, 11:07 PM
Dec 2013

Mine eyes have seen the glory of the burning of the school
We have tortured every teacher and have broken every rule
We have hung up Mrs. Blazek and we hung her by her toes
And cut off her long nose

Glory glory hallelujah, teacher hit me with a ruler
I bopped her on the beanie with a rotten tangerenie
And she'll never teach no more

(Mrs. Blazek was my grade school principle back in the 60's; I didn't write the lyrics, but I still remember them 45 years later)

Sgent

(5,858 posts)
9. I agree
Tue Dec 10, 2013, 11:23 PM
Dec 2013

that a neutral greeting like Happy Holidays is probably best, and its what I used when I was in customer facing positions (except when I know for a fact they celebrate a particular holiday).

As a Jew who grew up in the deep south, I was just happy when I wasn't singing 'Silent Night' or 'Hark the Harold' in a school event.

As late as the mid 80's in a relatively progressive district we we still had teacher led (or student teacher selected) prayer to Jesus every lunch. I still remember getting sent to the principals office when I was asked to say the prayer for the class. Baruch atah A-donay, Elo-heinu Melech Ha’Olam Hamotzi lechem min haaretz was the only food prayer I knew....

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
10. Sometimes it is easier to put on slippers...
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 01:19 AM
Dec 2013

...than to try to carpet the World.
This is one of those times.

It is not the words;
It IS the sentiment,
and I appreciate anyone wishing me kindness and happiness
however they choose to say it.

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