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MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 09:17 PM Dec 2013

Poor Hillary!

The Ready for Hillary! crowd seems to have become the Duck and Cover! crowd over the past few weeks. They must be flabbergasted by the groundswell of coherent thought that's been sweeping our Party of late.

"What to do!"

I can't wait to see very-Liberal-but-steely-realist Hillary get trotted out as soon as things quiet down a bit.

But, no matter. The Third Way can keep their ill-gotten cash, but they'll be getting less of it in the future; I suspect that they're well on their way to a permanent exile from the White House and Congress.

Change!

Thank you, Occupy, for getting the ball rolling. We're accreting good people and good will, and will soon be crushing all in our path. I hope...

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Poor Hillary! (Original Post) MannyGoldstein Dec 2013 OP
Poor + Hillary = Oxymoron Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2013 #1
Well... MannyGoldstein Dec 2013 #3
Good bye third way ... don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. Scuba Dec 2013 #2
The Duck and Cover Crowd... blue14u Dec 2013 #4
Just beware the supposedly more liberal alternative to Hillary who is anything but. Maven Dec 2013 #5
Hopefully we'll be able to really vet someone this time MannyGoldstein Dec 2013 #6
You're more of an optimist than I am... joeybee12 Dec 2013 #22
Couldn't Bernie simply run as a Dem to avoid history from repeating? WhaTHellsgoingonhere Dec 2013 #21
No more blank slates without track records promising Hope & Change. bvar22 Dec 2013 #34
Poor Manny~ sheshe2 Dec 2013 #7
I feel the same way davidpdx Dec 2013 #9
There are 300 million people in this country. NO ONE is appointed to lead this country, ALL have the sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #10
No one with no corporate funding (in very large piles) will ever be allowed on the ticket. Egalitarian Thug Dec 2013 #15
The Transparency President said that he wouldn't run in 2008 MannyGoldstein Dec 2013 #11
I ask one question, Manny. sheshe2 Dec 2013 #14
You contend that a Senator has more power than a President? MannyGoldstein Dec 2013 #16
No. I contend that she can do more damage to the banksters as a Senator. sheshe2 Dec 2013 #17
What can she do as Senator that she can't do as President? MannyGoldstein Dec 2013 #18
As a Senator, Warren can make this her main Focus. sheshe2 Dec 2013 #19
Which when used, is called nothign more than "Pretty Speech". JoePhilly Dec 2013 #26
but..but..but davidpdx Dec 2013 #8
The issues are solidly lined up Iwillnevergiveup Dec 2013 #12
2016 Obama - Biden Reformed Bully Dec 2013 #13
They're ready Capt. Obvious Dec 2013 #20
I mremember these folks DonCoquixote Dec 2013 #33
I've noticed! WhaTHellsgoingonhere Dec 2013 #23
Is getting her in trouble? Beacool Dec 2013 #24
pot says to kettle WhaTHellsgoingonhere Dec 2013 #29
No, it just means that it doesn't matter what people say in a blog. Beacool Dec 2013 #32
Her platform is apparently built on air miles. Whisp Dec 2013 #31
Looks like another slow day at the manufactured outrage factory. JoePhilly Dec 2013 #25
No news, Manny? MineralMan Dec 2013 #27
You'll be voting for her when the time comes BeyondGeography Dec 2013 #28
I love reading prophecies... LanternWaste Dec 2013 #30

blue14u

(575 posts)
4. The Duck and Cover Crowd...
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 09:44 PM
Dec 2013

Oh, but the few that come out are still fighting to the death!

Ha. Ignore and Block have become my friend as of yesterday..

is the sinking ship they are on!!!


is my name from now on. We won't take it anymore!

Maven

(10,533 posts)
5. Just beware the supposedly more liberal alternative to Hillary who is anything but.
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 10:13 PM
Dec 2013

In other words, don't repeat history.

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
6. Hopefully we'll be able to really vet someone this time
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 10:21 PM
Dec 2013

Last time we had a pack of three in front pretty early - two of them were clearly not helpful for the 99%, one was an unknown quantity who preached a good game.

And here we are.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
22. You're more of an optimist than I am...
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 02:12 PM
Dec 2013

I'm sure whoever the powers that be decide we must support will be a liberal in word, but not deed.

 

WhaTHellsgoingonhere

(5,252 posts)
21. Couldn't Bernie simply run as a Dem to avoid history from repeating?
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 02:09 PM
Dec 2013

That is, of course, if Elizabeth doesn't run.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
34. No more blank slates without track records promising Hope & Change.
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 07:46 PM
Dec 2013

That shit is DONE!

sheshe2

(96,794 posts)
7. Poor Manny~
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 10:57 PM
Dec 2013

Beautiful Dreamer,

Warren is not running for President. She is going to blast the hell out of Wall Street. That is why we sent her to the Senate. She will do amazing things there. I for one have not been a Hillary supporter. I backed this President from day one. Still do Manny and will continue to do so.

When 2016 comes around, I will make my decisions. However, I will indeed vote for the Democrat of choice.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
9. I feel the same way
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 11:15 PM
Dec 2013

I began supporting Obama in April of 2007 which was quite early. This time I am ready to sit out longer before deciding on a candidate if I don't see what I like. I hope we have some good choices in the primary.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
10. There are 300 million people in this country. NO ONE is appointed to lead this country, ALL have the
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 11:22 PM
Dec 2013

right to run for the office of POTUS.

And the idea that only a couple of US Citizens have the RIGHT to that position, is being strongly rejected, finally, and thankfully.

We the people have not been allowed to choose who we want in that position for a long time now. We the people have finally decided that we will no longer have any one person foisted on us without our consent.

I am hoping for a complete unknown person who has NO CORPORATE FUNDING, because we all know by now what that means, will emerge and we will finally have a CHOICE, rather than being pushed into just one or two 'choices' chosen by Corporate America.

They've finally come to the point where their corporate funding has become poison for any candidate.

I eg, will looking at who is fuding the candidates and will cross off the list, ANY CANDIDATE who has amassed a huge 'war chest' mostly funded by Corporations.

Thank YOU Occupy Wall St. for awakening the voting public to just what we should be looking out for.

Run Bernie! Run!

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
15. No one with no corporate funding (in very large piles) will ever be allowed on the ticket.
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 05:29 AM
Dec 2013

We've already been down that road many times before.

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
11. The Transparency President said that he wouldn't run in 2008
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 11:23 PM
Dec 2013

That was different, I suppose.

sheshe2

(96,794 posts)
14. I ask one question, Manny.
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 12:19 AM
Dec 2013

Why the rush to get her out of one of the most influential positions available? She can do more as a in her position as Senator. You believe that she can move the world as a sitting President???? Really.

As I have said she can do a hell of a lot more damage to big business and Wall Street in her position as Senator. You seemvto disagree with that point. Why is that?

Romper Room: Bend And Stretch, Reach For The Sky. Stand on tippy toe my oh my~

sheshe2

(96,794 posts)
17. No. I contend that she can do more damage to the banksters as a Senator.
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 10:25 AM
Dec 2013

That is why they are so afraid of her.

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
18. What can she do as Senator that she can't do as President?
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 10:33 AM
Dec 2013

The President is the Party Leader, and has the world's bulliest pulpit.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
8. but..but..but
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 11:10 PM
Dec 2013

There is no one else to run. We have to get behind Hillary or we are not good Democrats.

Iwillnevergiveup

(9,298 posts)
12. The issues are solidly lined up
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 12:09 AM
Dec 2013

Bankster crooks (still at it), Citizens United, wealth inequality, bought politicians, lazy (often lying) media, union busting, manufactured crises (S.S. going broke) charter schools, foreclosures, unemployment (un)fair wages... it should be a shoo-in for the Democrats in 2016.

We desperately need a champion - I've said this before. I am not enthusiastic about Hillary and was hoping Elizabeth Warren might be that champion of the middle class. But if it's not to be her, we must retain the Senate and flush the House of as many Teahadists as possible next year. That would certainly pave the way for a Democratic victory in 2016.

DonCoquixote

(13,950 posts)
33. I mremember these folks
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 07:04 PM
Dec 2013

Back when they were Hillary is 44. They are the fine folks that kept calling Michelle a cocktail watiress, and kept calling Obama a "boy."

 

WhaTHellsgoingonhere

(5,252 posts)
23. I've noticed!
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 02:22 PM
Dec 2013

That talking thing is getting her in trouble. Before, I was only wondering what she was going to build her platform on.

Beacool

(30,511 posts)
24. Is getting her in trouble?
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 02:30 PM
Dec 2013

Please, as if any of you bloviating three years before there's anyone running for anything would vote for her anyway.

 

WhaTHellsgoingonhere

(5,252 posts)
29. pot says to kettle
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 04:49 PM
Dec 2013

lol

That left a mark!

Hey, some of us don't think a third Clinton administration is in the best interest of the country.

Beacool

(30,511 posts)
32. No, it just means that it doesn't matter what people say in a blog.
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 05:12 PM
Dec 2013

As long as the vast majority of Democrats support her.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
31. Her platform is apparently built on air miles.
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 05:01 PM
Dec 2013

and those funny cartoony text message thing someone else did.

other than that, I still have no answers from people that say Hillitary is the greatest SoS ever.
nothing.
other than she logged in the most miles and she was tired all the time for that 3am phone call.

can you believe it?

I can.

MineralMan

(150,945 posts)
27. No news, Manny?
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 02:47 PM
Dec 2013

Most folks are not really that into the 2016 election yet. A lot of us aren't really worried about that. We're looking at 2014. Hillary's a likely candidate for 2016, but there's ample time to let that election develop. In the meantime, 2014 is really just around the corner, and potential candidates are getting vetted like crazy for that one. Who has time to think about 2016 right now?

Will Hillary run? I don't know. She hasn't said. I don't pay a lot of attention to the Presidential race in the first place, since I really won't play any role in choosing the candidate who is on the ballot. I'll let you worry about that race, but I suspect that you don't have much to do with who will be on the ballot in 2016, either.

Good luck to you in your quest. Whoever it is that you'll support will be interesting, I'm sure. In 2015, I'll start paying attention to that a little, but mostly I'll be working on legislative politics, as always. There, I can actually be of influence.

Have fun! I'll be voting for whomever emerges from the Democratic Convention in 2016.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
30. I love reading prophecies...
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 04:55 PM
Dec 2013

I love reading prophecies...

Granted, they're usually much more satisfying to reading while sitting on the toilet-- more balanced that way-- but still, a nicely satisfying and provocatively prophetic tarot-reading all the way around!!!!

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