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Simple Question: Do YOU Believe We Currrently Have A "Representative" Government ??? (Original Post) WillyT Dec 2013 OP
Of course we do... dchill Dec 2013 #1
So... When 60 To 70 Percent Of Americans Support A Gun Background Check... WillyT Dec 2013 #3
Did you miss my point? dchill Dec 2013 #7
Got It...Thanks... WillyT Dec 2013 #10
I call that a failure to organize struggle4progress Dec 2013 #28
Here! My wife realized it before I did but we have been thinking that for a while. diabeticman Dec 2013 #2
It depends on Heather MC Dec 2013 #4
No Nite Owl Dec 2013 #5
I might amend that "hell no." villager Dec 2013 #6
Yes, we have a representative government, BUT, that government does not RKP5637 Dec 2013 #8
Representative of the 1%, absolutely. NuclearDem Dec 2013 #9
We have enough of an illusion of a representative government ... 1000words Dec 2013 #11
Nope. We have a plutonomy. It's form of government is a plutocracy. Warren Stupidity Dec 2013 #12
No. liberal_at_heart Dec 2013 #13
Bought and paid for by Big Business. Rex Dec 2013 #14
uhhh... 2naSalit Dec 2013 #15
I gotta blame the voters NobodyHere Dec 2013 #16
+1 lunasun Dec 2013 #25
Voting is important. So is useful support of candidates. But the rubber really hits the road struggle4progress Dec 2013 #32
I hate polls. countryjake Dec 2013 #17
I know I don't right now, as far as the state of North Carolina. Jamastiene Dec 2013 #18
The bastids have always preached "you can't win" -- but we simply must try to win anyway, cuz struggle4progress Dec 2013 #34
Amen to that. Jamastiene Dec 2013 #37
Yes. They are representing those with loudest voice$$$. Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #19
It seems to me that it represents the 1% pretty effectively most of the time. nt Zorra Dec 2013 #20
No. Blue_In_AK Dec 2013 #21
Sure we do . . . Le Taz Hot Dec 2013 #22
Not even a little bit. Egalitarian Thug Dec 2013 #23
In terms of political opinions roughly yes, in terms of demographics not even close. Donald Ian Rankin Dec 2013 #24
No. President and on down through Congress (with a very few exceptions). No no no. n/t djean111 Dec 2013 #26
I don't think we have "a" government: I vote for city council members, county commissioners, struggle4progress Dec 2013 #27
hahahahaha... oh, you were serious? ProdigalJunkMail Dec 2013 #29
Gerrymandering is a big issue Gothmog Dec 2013 #30
It represents the corporations quite well. hobbit709 Dec 2013 #31
and ditto to HELL NO!! a kennedy Dec 2013 #33
Representation you ask ? SamKnause Dec 2013 #35
Poor=No Rich=Yes BlueJazz Dec 2013 #36
What do the people want? Because a hell of a lot o them vote for Republicans el_bryanto Dec 2013 #38
No (nt) bigwillq Dec 2013 #39
To a way too large extent, no .. ananda Dec 2013 #40
No we don't. Not even close. 99Forever Dec 2013 #41
Well.. I guess that depends on how you look at it. 1awake Dec 2013 #42
Answer. OLDMDDEM Dec 2013 #43
No. Autumn Dec 2013 #44
We have a representative government Shankapotomus Dec 2013 #45

dchill

(42,660 posts)
1. Of course we do...
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 10:56 PM
Dec 2013

It is just a question of who the representatives represent. OK, there's not really a question, is there...

 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
3. So... When 60 To 70 Percent Of Americans Support A Gun Background Check...
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 11:01 PM
Dec 2013

And yet the Congress cannot approve what they want...

What do YOU call it?


 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
4. It depends on
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 11:01 PM
Dec 2013

Who you think should be represented, v/s who is getting represented.

I think if your want to be heard you need minimum $1 million ea for at least 5 legislators. If you want action you need to triple the money with same five, or spread millions around to more legislators.

But if you think you can get on the docket and be heard, seen, hell even mentioned without gobs of $$$$$$$$
Well i hate to say it, but you will not be represented in this Government.

I recommend Switzerland. Maybe

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
8. Yes, we have a representative government, BUT, that government does not
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 11:05 PM
Dec 2013

represent "we the people," but rather $$$$$ donations allowing one to join the group, and really, bribery. ... and that connotes power, the rest of us just talk. ... basically, "we the people," today, have no representation in government.

 

1000words

(7,051 posts)
11. We have enough of an illusion of a representative government ...
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 11:15 PM
Dec 2013

to allow those under it's spell to scoff and dismiss your opinion as "fringe."

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
12. Nope. We have a plutonomy. It's form of government is a plutocracy.
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 11:20 PM
Dec 2013

It retains the facade of a representative government.

 

NobodyHere

(2,810 posts)
16. I gotta blame the voters
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 01:38 AM
Dec 2013

Last time I checked we still cast votes every other year.

How many people on this board can honestly say that they will NEVER vote for a candidate who accepts corporate money?
I know I can't.

So now we have politicians who have our implicit approval to take corporate cash.

Let's face it, who will turn down money when in return there is so little cost to themselves, and much to gain?

struggle4progress

(125,752 posts)
32. Voting is important. So is useful support of candidates. But the rubber really hits the road
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 08:25 AM
Dec 2013

between elections: paying attention to what our friends and enemies do, educating the public, and organizing pressure for the outcomes we want

Jamastiene

(38,206 posts)
18. I know I don't right now, as far as the state of North Carolina.
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 01:56 AM
Dec 2013

None of these jackass Teabaggers that currently run this state represent how I think things should be handled. Their gerrymandering has insured it will be almost impossible for my district to be able to elect a Democratic Representative for ages to come. So, no, I don't really think so at this point, sadly.

struggle4progress

(125,752 posts)
34. The bastids have always preached "you can't win" -- but we simply must try to win anyway, cuz
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 08:28 AM
Dec 2013

we certainly won't win if we swallow the line "you can't win"

 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
19. Yes. They are representing those with loudest voice$$$.
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 02:04 AM
Dec 2013

When the body politic rises up in resounding majority for a particular direction...the loud voices of voters sending them to early retirement almost always trumps what the lobbyists pay. It's just in our comfortable American leisure we don't rise up enough.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
23. Not even a little bit.
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 03:00 AM
Dec 2013

As time rolls on I find it more and more frightening/fascinating/surreal to see both political parties flatly walking away from their nominal constituents, and those same constituents just burning up their brains out trying to invent some rationalization for it.

Does anyone really believe that the President, their Congressperson, their Senator, their governor, or even their city councilperson, gives half a shit about their little personal problems?

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
24. In terms of political opinions roughly yes, in terms of demographics not even close.
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 03:05 AM
Dec 2013

As far as I can tell, on most issues the distribution of opinions in the American government is not far from the American electorate.

But in terms of demographics, the government is obviously much older, richer, more educated and maler, and I think a bit whiter, a bit straighter and a bit more religious than the electorate.

struggle4progress

(125,752 posts)
27. I don't think we have "a" government: I vote for city council members, county commissioners,
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 08:15 AM
Dec 2013

state senators and representatives, and federal senators and representatives on the legislative side; I vote for a city mayor, a council of state, a state governor and a federal president on the executive side; and on the judicial side, I vote for state judges. Beyond that, there are a variety of city, state, and federal employees who have various regulatory powers and who jobs are protected by various civil service laws; and there are appointed federal judges

It's not "a" government -- it's a patchwork of authorities: they're not all the same

SamKnause

(14,832 posts)
35. Representation you ask ?
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 08:29 AM
Dec 2013

The answer is a resounding NO !!!

The corporations have representation.

The lobbyists have representation.

The global CEO's have representation.

The Christian religion has representation.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
38. What do the people want? Because a hell of a lot o them vote for Republicans
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 08:31 AM
Dec 2013

Don't they?

Are our representatives supposed to represent their voters interests or their wishes?

Bryant

ananda

(34,619 posts)
40. To a way too large extent, no ..
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 08:38 AM
Dec 2013

.. we do not have a representative government.

Well, they do represent certain interests, just not those
of the lower percenters.

1awake

(1,494 posts)
42. Well.. I guess that depends on how you look at it.
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 08:52 AM
Dec 2013

The only people ANY of our politicians represent are the lobbyists. I can think of maybe... a handful who this might not cover, but I'd still have some free fingers.

Shankapotomus

(4,840 posts)
45. We have a representative government
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 09:48 AM
Dec 2013

but an obstructionist one. And I blame that squarely on the Republican and Right Wing political machine.

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