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anyone watch "homeland"? (Original Post) DesertFlower Dec 2013 OP
Yes. SPOILERS AHEAD. Nay Dec 2013 #1
i can't stop crying. DesertFlower Dec 2013 #2
sometimes... madrchsod Dec 2013 #3
my late husband loved the series. DesertFlower Dec 2013 #5
Yes, only way to end the season elfin Dec 2013 #4
i agree. nt DesertFlower Dec 2013 #6
I. Can't. Believe. What. Just. Happened!.... Little Star Dec 2013 #7
Yup. Wow. DebJ Dec 2013 #8
Amazing show. Mojo Electro Dec 2013 #9
Me too! Little Star Dec 2013 #10
same here. i thought it DesertFlower Dec 2013 #26
perhaps, but not I MNBrewer Dec 2013 #11
That could have served as a series finale. tritsofme Dec 2013 #12
i thought it was but it's been renewed. DesertFlower Dec 2013 #13
Subtle spoiler dipsydoodle Dec 2013 #14
Yes. mnhtnbb Dec 2013 #15
I recorded it, will watch tonight. JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2013 #16
I tried, but I can't stand torture porn. Iggo Dec 2013 #17
Unbelievable. Skinner Dec 2013 #18
I don't think he's essential to the story BainsBane Dec 2013 #19
Exactly. Blue_In_AK Dec 2013 #27
I think Quinn is a far better match for her BainsBane Dec 2013 #30
And, yes, he IS dreamy Blue_In_AK Dec 2013 #37
Yes he is and yes he is! Little Star Dec 2013 #39
I'm in love with him in my dreams, for real! He cares more about her... Little Star Dec 2013 #38
I don't like the plot about the baby BainsBane Dec 2013 #20
will she leave the baby with her father DesertFlower Dec 2013 #24
I am not thrilled about having a baby story line either. ugh! Little Star Dec 2013 #40
A good show that turned into among the worst things ever televised cthulu2016 Dec 2013 #21
Damian Lewis Was My Reason otohara Dec 2013 #22
claire danes is a great actress. DesertFlower Dec 2013 #25
Meh otohara Dec 2013 #29
I agree. She's excellent BainsBane Dec 2013 #31
it's a great show. thank goodness DesertFlower Dec 2013 #33
I've watched some of it. BainsBane Dec 2013 #34
like i said i just caught a piece of it last night. DesertFlower Dec 2013 #36
Yes maddezmom Dec 2013 #23
I do enjoy it and am not sure the door is closed for Brody. searchingforlight Dec 2013 #28
Really? I didn't know about the 7 yr contract BainsBane Dec 2013 #32
It would make it pretty far fetched. searchingforlight Dec 2013 #35
Oh please don't tell me we are in for years of Brody flashbacks. Little Star Dec 2013 #41
No--Dana flashbacks. trumad Dec 2013 #42
Dana character=ugh... Little Star Dec 2013 #43
Me, too. I can't stand that whiny little creep. nt Nay Dec 2013 #44

Nay

(12,051 posts)
1. Yes. SPOILERS AHEAD.
Sun Dec 15, 2013, 11:07 PM
Dec 2013

I wondered what was gonna happen to Brodie -- got my suspicions confirmed. A bad way to go.

madrchsod

(58,162 posts)
3. sometimes...
Sun Dec 15, 2013, 11:08 PM
Dec 2013

my wife watches it and when i`m not on the computer i may pay attention. from what i've seen its more fiction than fact

elfin

(6,262 posts)
4. Yes, only way to end the season
Sun Dec 15, 2013, 11:10 PM
Dec 2013

Looks like we may be learning more about Turkey next year.

Amazing how current this series is.

DesertFlower

(11,649 posts)
26. same here. i thought it
Mon Dec 16, 2013, 03:22 PM
Dec 2013

would end after the second season, but was delightfully surprised when it didn't.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,321 posts)
16. I recorded it, will watch tonight.
Mon Dec 16, 2013, 07:33 AM
Dec 2013

It's tempting to open the responses with "spoiler alerts", but I'm resisting.

Iggo

(47,534 posts)
17. I tried, but I can't stand torture porn.
Mon Dec 16, 2013, 09:09 AM
Dec 2013

I stuck around til the end of the first season, then that was it.

Skinner

(63,645 posts)
18. Unbelievable.
Mon Dec 16, 2013, 11:34 AM
Dec 2013

As I was watching it in disbelief I said to my wife, "There is no plausible way that they can get out of this." In the back of my mind I thought that they were going to pull some hollywood plot twist and save Brody, but I did not believe they could possibly do it in a plausible way. Send in the marines and save him at the last moment? I was torn between hoping Brody would get saved, and hoping the series would not let me down with some sort of ridiculous, contrived plot twist.

I am sorry to see Brody go, and I don't know how the show can continue without him. But I respect the fact that they actually went through with it. I'm reminded of that quote from George R. R. Martin:

“I've been killing characters my entire career, maybe I'm just a bloody minded bastard, I don't know, when my characters are in danger, I want you to be afraid to turn the page (and to do that) you need to show right from the beginning that you're playing for keeps.”

BainsBane

(53,012 posts)
19. I don't think he's essential to the story
Mon Dec 16, 2013, 12:04 PM
Dec 2013

There will be new terrorist threats in Istanbul, possibly new moles in the CIA. Carrie can finally have the romance with Quinn everyone has been rooting for. I think Brody had to go actually.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
27. Exactly.
Mon Dec 16, 2013, 03:31 PM
Dec 2013

I love Damien Lewis as an actor, but what more could they do with Brody? He would never be fully assimilated back into the US with his past, and there's only so much he could do abroad. And Quinn obviously is in love with Carrie so that opens up all kinds of little subplots. I'm fine with this shift in direction.

BainsBane

(53,012 posts)
30. I think Quinn is a far better match for her
Mon Dec 16, 2013, 05:44 PM
Dec 2013

In addition to being dreamy, he has never killed a Vice President of the US. That's one I would have a hard time getting past. I'm amazed at how that one never came back to bite Brody or Carrie. Quinn is also more steady emotionally, which Carrie needs.

Little Star

(17,055 posts)
38. I'm in love with him in my dreams, for real! He cares more about her...
Mon Dec 16, 2013, 09:16 PM
Dec 2013

than any other character on the show and that makes him even more appealing.

BainsBane

(53,012 posts)
20. I don't like the plot about the baby
Mon Dec 16, 2013, 12:10 PM
Dec 2013

I suppose it's interesting in that it introduces the sort of dilemmas women in the intelligence field actual face, but now that Brody is gone the baby is a side line. So what are they going to do with the story? The father takes the baby, Carrie goes to Istanbul and then worries about the child? I wish they hadn't made her get pregnant.

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
21. A good show that turned into among the worst things ever televised
Mon Dec 16, 2013, 12:13 PM
Dec 2013

The last season of Homeland is below the intellectual level of a daytime soap.

 

otohara

(24,135 posts)
22. Damian Lewis Was My Reason
Mon Dec 16, 2013, 12:47 PM
Dec 2013

for watching.

No reason to watch this unrealistic show now that the best actors have been banished

DesertFlower

(11,649 posts)
33. it's a great show. thank goodness
Mon Dec 16, 2013, 06:02 PM
Dec 2013

for good shows. there aren't many left. so many great ones were cancelled, i.e., "without a trace", "harry's law", CSI-NY, etc.

tv seems to have been taken over by stupid reality shows. i don't give a damn about the Kardashians, the Bachelor, etc.

i haven't been watcing "Masters of Sex" but i kept SHowtime on last night and it looks like it's good. they were talking about ECT for a woman's husband who liked men. i'll wait for the re-runs and watch from the beginning.

BainsBane

(53,012 posts)
34. I've watched some of it.
Mon Dec 16, 2013, 06:04 PM
Dec 2013

I don't find it nearly as compelling as Homeland, Game of Thrones, or the Borgias, which has been cancelled. It's sort of odd in that Masters appears very uptight and doesn't exactly devote much attention to his sex life with his wife.

DesertFlower

(11,649 posts)
36. like i said i just caught a piece of it last night.
Mon Dec 16, 2013, 06:06 PM
Dec 2013

i'm also looking forward to the return of "the americans" on FX in feburary.

one of the best series i ever saw was HBO's "six feet under".

searchingforlight

(1,401 posts)
28. I do enjoy it and am not sure the door is closed for Brody.
Mon Dec 16, 2013, 04:21 PM
Dec 2013

Lewis signed a 7 year contract this year which doesn't mean he can't be killed of earlier, he will still get paid, but does leave the door open.

His hanging looked a little suspicious and the timing was strange. To schedule it just before the call to prayer that would require everyone to leave left room for doubt. Seems it would usually have been scheduled to allow for maximum crowd frenzy.

I also think Brody could make the transition if he came back and went to work for Saul as black ops. I think that is what they intimated Saul would be doing in NY. He could support Claire and be in the background with little public exposure. They could maintain the lake house as their base.

I think that Claire will take the baby to Istanbul. Plenty of support there with nannies and protection. That kind of stability would definitely allow the writers to grow her character.

Yes, I am a dreamer.

BainsBane

(53,012 posts)
32. Really? I didn't know about the 7 yr contract
Mon Dec 16, 2013, 05:47 PM
Dec 2013

That would be too fake and ultra Hollywood if they brought him back, sort of like the dream that Bobby was dead on Dallas. I hope you're wrong.

Perhaps Showtime will develop another show for him?

searchingforlight

(1,401 posts)
35. It would make it pretty far fetched.
Mon Dec 16, 2013, 06:06 PM
Dec 2013

Lewis did say that the writers were having a hard time with the complexities of his character and that they have wanted to kill him since the first season to make the story sharper.

Kurt Sutter sure has no problem killing people off and the story goes on. One of the posters mentioned George Martin and I know that with each death in his books I was shocked but it didn't keep me from enjoying the story.

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