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MichaelMcGuire

(1,684 posts)
Tue Mar 13, 2012, 09:07 AM Mar 2012

English 'would bomb our airports'

GLASGOW and Edinburgh airports, in an independent Scotland, could be bombed by an English government if it was threatened by an unfriendly country, a former deputy leader of the UK Conservative Party has warned.

Lord Fraser of Carmyllie also warned that SNP policies removing nuclear forces from Scottish bases and reducing Scotland's navy "essentially" to fishery protection vessels could make Scotland a war zone. He said a country with a few fishery protection vessels was "asking to be invaded".

The former Lord Advocate and Solicitor General said he did not see who might have "evil intentions" against England but he had missed "the import of the Balkan crisis and the ramifications of 9/11" and would hesitate "to predict the crises even in the rest of the century".

He foresaw the possibility of an enemy commander ordering the runways at Scottish airports to be cleared because his planes would be landing and "if that were to happen what alternative would England have but to come and bomb the hell out of Glasgow airport and Edinburgh airport".

continue: http://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/political-news/english-would-bomb-our-airports.17005697

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English 'would bomb our airports' (Original Post) MichaelMcGuire Mar 2012 OP
Why are you surprised? malaise Mar 2012 #1
Not surprised, just one of the more unusual scare stories printed. MichaelMcGuire Mar 2012 #3
I wonder what would be said IF a MSP in the Scottish Parliament MichaelMcGuire Mar 2012 #7
And their recent and relevant history of bombing Scottish airfields... LanternWaste Mar 2012 #14
Not for me to put words into anyone's mouth but MichaelMcGuire Mar 2012 #16
You are correct malaise Mar 2012 #20
What, ho, malaise? lapislzi Mar 2012 #18
LOL malaise Mar 2012 #21
Sorry, you'd have to hang on to nutters like Lord Fraser muriel_volestrangler Mar 2012 #2
He's more of the type to exile himself south of the border. MichaelMcGuire Mar 2012 #4
So who's going to "Invade" Scotland... The Norwegians? MrScorpio Mar 2012 #5
I think its meant to be satire normally printed in Scotland as unionist facts. MichaelMcGuire Mar 2012 #6
That is the weirdest piece I've ever read. Sounds like Cold War talk. freshwest Mar 2012 #8
I need to start listing them really. MichaelMcGuire Mar 2012 #11
Does this clown actually have any power over the military? I'd be worried if he does. freshwest Mar 2012 #12
No, thank god. MichaelMcGuire Mar 2012 #15
Where the heck did Lord Fraser get that idea from? mwooldri Mar 2012 #9
Hello Mark, I wouldn't give Lord Fraser's silliness much thought MichaelMcGuire Mar 2012 #10
He Is A Member of "The Ruling Class" Dirty Socialist Mar 2012 #13
Nope, but this is the pre-quel, probably: freshwest Mar 2012 #17
LOL MichaelMcGuire Mar 2012 #19
Wolverines!!!1!1!! chrisa Mar 2012 #22
 

MichaelMcGuire

(1,684 posts)
3. Not surprised, just one of the more unusual scare stories printed.
Tue Mar 13, 2012, 09:20 AM
Mar 2012

By no means the most ridiculous.

 

MichaelMcGuire

(1,684 posts)
7. I wonder what would be said IF a MSP in the Scottish Parliament
Tue Mar 13, 2012, 09:47 AM
Mar 2012

Where to make up a similar scenario? Where it was Gatwick and Heathrow would get bombed the hell out just in case, a enemy would use it to you know land their planes on. I mean what choice would Scotland have?

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
14. And their recent and relevant history of bombing Scottish airfields...
Tue Mar 13, 2012, 01:05 PM
Mar 2012

"only about the English...."

And their recent and relevant history of bombing Scottish airfields...?

 

MichaelMcGuire

(1,684 posts)
16. Not for me to put words into anyone's mouth but
Tue Mar 13, 2012, 01:46 PM
Mar 2012

I take malaise meaning as: Belief that England is always the centre of attention.

Any discussion in the media to do with Scottish statehood weirdly needs to involve and include England. In reality its not about England why should it be. England is not nor should be the centre of the Scottish universe then it comes to discussing Scotland's future.


lapislzi

(5,762 posts)
18. What, ho, malaise?
Tue Mar 13, 2012, 01:51 PM
Mar 2012

I'll hear no more of this poppycock. Those wretched Scots would still be shagging sheep if we English hadn't civilized them, what hey?



Disclaimer: this Irish child was diapered with IRA leaflets.

muriel_volestrangler

(106,226 posts)
2. Sorry, you'd have to hang on to nutters like Lord Fraser
Tue Mar 13, 2012, 09:16 AM
Mar 2012

He is definitely Scottish, and you will have to keep such 'enemies' in your country if you get independence.

 

MichaelMcGuire

(1,684 posts)
4. He's more of the type to exile himself south of the border.
Tue Mar 13, 2012, 09:23 AM
Mar 2012

Last edited Tue Mar 13, 2012, 09:53 AM - Edit history (1)

He's one of the type that sees himself as definitely British he has the right attitude for it.

MrScorpio

(73,772 posts)
5. So who's going to "Invade" Scotland... The Norwegians?
Tue Mar 13, 2012, 09:29 AM
Mar 2012

Well the Vikings invaded 1,200 years ago, so I guess no one is safe.

mwooldri

(10,818 posts)
9. Where the heck did Lord Fraser get that idea from?
Tue Mar 13, 2012, 11:24 AM
Mar 2012

If England were threatened by another country, it would depend on what Scotland decided - to throw its lot behind England, the invader, or remain neutral - just as in any other war that involves multiple countries.

What next, re-build Hadrians' Wall?

If England were at war with another country and Scotland declared to be neutral, I would presume that England would not be bombing anything in Scotland, and Scotland would be impounding any weapon of war entering its territory - including English stuff. At least, that's the normal rules of war - your planes and ships get impounded but you may be able to get back to your country of origin.


 

MichaelMcGuire

(1,684 posts)
10. Hello Mark, I wouldn't give Lord Fraser's silliness much thought
Tue Mar 13, 2012, 12:49 PM
Mar 2012

To Scots its going to be one in a long line of silly scare stories straight from Westminster's own House of the undead.


On your note thou, I doubt it would make any sense to allow, any force that would also be hostile to Scotland a foot hold in England due to our inaction. I don't foresee inaction when it comes to the common defence of the British isles only declining in the misguided adventurism of invading other sovereign states.

Dirty Socialist

(3,252 posts)
13. He Is A Member of "The Ruling Class"
Tue Mar 13, 2012, 01:03 PM
Mar 2012

"When I'm talking to Jesus I feel that I'm talking to myself."

Anyone see that movie? What a kook.

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