Did Lawrence Just Lose It ???

[WillyT]

I mean... I understand his use of Madison's history of what he would, or would not be aghast of...

But invoking 9-11 at the end, made me want to retch.

[SharonAnn]

1. I think you wanted to "retch". That's a verb. "Wretch" is a noun.

[WillyT]

3. Noted... And Changed... Thank You.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

2. What did he say?

[WillyT]

10. Not Posted Yet...

[pkdu]

4. You need to rewatch it. It was a brilliant takedown of Leon , Scalia et al. Nt

[WillyT]

5. And Washington, Jefferson, Madison, et. al...

[pkdu]

6. Rather...USING Washington , Jefferson , Madison et al....as seriously flawed WHITE MEN who

Created a system of government that was imperfect...and still is.

Hence the take down of Scalia et al , who invoke the founders at every turn.

[WillyT]

8. Around 99% Of White Men Were/Are Flawed By The Generation They Grew Up In...

As were they...

But... few of those 99% would set up a system that could change that fact.

[pkdu]

11. Exactly, hence the desire to form a more perfect union...

...and continue to do so

[WillyT]

12. That Is What Edward Snowden Is Trying To Do, Yet Lawrence Seemed To Be Uncomfortable With That...

Or... the Judge... or James Madison... or something or other...

Which would have been forgivable... up until the 9/11 mention.

[pkdu]

13. I disagree . All LOD was saying was that the old WHITE MEN would have no comprehension of this

Modern world and it's challenges , inc NSA , Al Qaida etc.

But that's just my opinion.

[WillyT]

15. Ok... Fair Enough... And What Would Today's Recent Generations Come Up With As A Founding...

Document trying to flee the grip of tyranny, and to evolve into a more perfect world.

Say you had to start off in a world filled with slavery, monarchy, despotism and corruption, et. al...

And after you answer that... could you tell us how to do it again... like NOW?

I'm fucking tired of this shit.

[Blue_In_AK]

17. Me, too, Willy.

I've just been tuning it all out now and thinking about making Christmas cookies. I can control what I can control.

[liberal from boston]

18. Founding Fathers

Totally agree pkdu!!! I saw it last night--it was brilliant. Lawrence acknowledged that Judge Leon wrote a well versed & reasoned opinion & that the Supreme Court should hear it.

[politichew]

7. I liked his point about growing up in the mafia days.

Gives you an idea of his perspective on the issue.

[jaysunb]

9. +1 n/t

[X_Digger]

14. It's Tuesday.. I thought that happened on Thursdays.

I got tired of the 'gravitas' voice / losing his shit a while back.

[think4yourself]

16. Seriously

I can relate. Really turned me off.