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What if a US politician showed the same kind of reform as Pope Francis? (Original Post) tina tron Dec 2013 OP
What exactly has he reformed? Egalitarian Thug Dec 2013 #1
im not sure MFM008 Dec 2013 #2
There'd out him before he could do any good Awknid Dec 2013 #3
Really? Spider Jerusalem Dec 2013 #7
He would have the name Elizabeth DJ13 Dec 2013 #4
He wouldn't win a single red state including the Bible Belt. JaneyVee Dec 2013 #5
Like...say a lot of really appealing things, but not actually change anything? LadyHawkAZ Dec 2013 #6
Perhaps you have not heard of this guy called Obama? Coyotl Dec 2013 #8
The pope can order up any reform he wants frazzled Dec 2013 #9
 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
1. What exactly has he reformed?
Thu Dec 19, 2013, 11:34 PM
Dec 2013

I like much of what he's said, but I didn't know he'd changed anything yet.

MFM008

(19,805 posts)
2. im not sure
Thu Dec 19, 2013, 11:34 PM
Dec 2013

if he could overcome the tea party. Look at John Huntsman, some of his positions involved a degree of sanity.... I think he was out first......

Awknid

(381 posts)
3. There'd out him before he could do any good
Thu Dec 19, 2013, 11:34 PM
Dec 2013

Look at what they did to JFK and Bobby. And they were not radical at all!

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
7. Really?
Fri Dec 20, 2013, 12:08 AM
Dec 2013

The day JFK was assassinated every bill of his legislative program was hopelessly stalled in Congress. Within less than two years? LBJ got the Civil Rights Act, Voting Rights Act, Medicare, Medicaid, and Head Start passed and enacted into law.

LadyHawkAZ

(6,199 posts)
6. Like...say a lot of really appealing things, but not actually change anything?
Fri Dec 20, 2013, 12:07 AM
Dec 2013

Talk about how awful capitalism is while raking in millions?

Not fix some fundamental problem in the system (especially for women, children and gays) because The Bible Says?

Almost every politician in America has already BEEN Francis.

Wake me when the actions are equal to the words.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
8. Perhaps you have not heard of this guy called Obama?
Fri Dec 20, 2013, 12:08 AM
Dec 2013

His reform record is far greater than the Pope's.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
9. The pope can order up any reform he wants
Fri Dec 20, 2013, 01:37 AM
Dec 2013

A president can't: there's a little thing called Congress, not to mention the Supreme Court. Our Constitution metes out certain jobs to each of these powers, and one may block the actions of another.

In other words, the president is not the pope.

Papal supremacy refers to the doctrine of the Roman Catholic Church that the pope, by reason of his office as Vicar of Christ and as pastor of the entire Christian Church, has full, supreme, and universal power over the whole Church, a power which he can always exercise unhindered: that, in brief, "the Pope enjoys, by divine institution, supreme, full, immediate, and universal power in the care of souls."


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