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kpete

(72,276 posts)
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 04:06 PM Dec 2013

Small Alabama town accidentally hires black drag queens to dance in Christmas parade



Residents in the small town of Semmes, Alabama were surprised when one of the acts in the annual Christmas parade was a group of black drag queens known as “The Prancing Elite.”

The captain of the troupe, Kentrell Collins, said he believed the offer had been made in good faith, and that the representative for the Friends of Semmes to whom he spoke knew who she was hiring.

“I said we’re all over 21 and we’re guys. She was so excited. She was like I didn’t know they had any groups like that in Mobile,” Collins told Fox 10 News.


The reaction of local residents to the troupe’s performance was overwhelmingly negative.

VIDEO & MORE:
http://www.fox10tv.com/news/local/mobile-county/male-dance-group-sparks-controversy-at-parade
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/12/22/small-alabama-town-accidentally-hires-black-drag-queens-to-dance-in-christmas-parade/
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Small Alabama town accidentally hires black drag queens to dance in Christmas parade (Original Post) kpete Dec 2013 OP
Love it! F*ck the haters! fleur-de-lisa Dec 2013 #1
k&r... spanone Dec 2013 #2
One mom they interviewed was "shocked." MineralMan Dec 2013 #3
My thoughts exactly newcriminal Dec 2013 #30
The duck dynasty Mom using her children as a shield to hide her prejudice is appalling. warrant46 Dec 2013 #35
Well, things do seem to be getting better. At least the overwhelming negative response didn't Zorra Dec 2013 #4
And they were certainly the best act in the parade Laughing Mirror Dec 2013 #5
Completely Awesome jberryhill Dec 2013 #6
The irony continues with the ad on the rawstory page... pacalo Dec 2013 #7
Oh my progressoid Dec 2013 #8
Awesome! Fuck the haters! Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #9
one small town at a time -- dancing Drag Queens will take over the world xchrom Dec 2013 #10
Nothing more fun than dancing drag queens! valerief Dec 2013 #12
woot woot!!! secondwind Dec 2013 #16
I'm glad the haters didn't physically abuse the dancers. nt valerief Dec 2013 #11
they look strong and muscular, more so than typical drag artists Liberal_in_LA Dec 2013 #20
And, unlike drag performers.... Behind the Aegis Dec 2013 #22
agreed. i watched a few of their performances on youtube Liberal_in_LA Dec 2013 #37
I hate it... pipi_k Dec 2013 #13
They are a fun bunch, but they are NOT drag queens. Behind the Aegis Dec 2013 #14
Not drag queens? Android3.14 Dec 2013 #15
They don't dress up in women's clothes. Behind the Aegis Dec 2013 #17
I was wondering about that, I didn't think the picture was accurate to Rex Dec 2013 #18
Well, I know one of them does do drag, but that isn't how. Behind the Aegis Dec 2013 #19
Yes I noticed no wigs or makeup. Rex Dec 2013 #21
They have a red set, which includes pants and muscle t-shirts. Behind the Aegis Dec 2013 #24
42 here. Rex Dec 2013 #25
Good luck to us both! Behind the Aegis Dec 2013 #26
Oh yes you know it! Rex Dec 2013 #27
Those unitards are defintitely women's attire Android3.14 Dec 2013 #31
Well, I can speak as someone who is intimately aquainted with the drag world... Behind the Aegis Dec 2013 #32
Mired in prejudice? Perhaps Android3.14 Dec 2013 #34
2 things Behind the Aegis Dec 2013 #41
Happy Holidays to you as well Android3.14 Dec 2013 #42
Quite possibly my favorite DU thread headline of all time. redwitch Dec 2013 #23
Good to see the non-bigots kicking ass in the comments (on the Fox site)! nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #28
Umm, don't care if it's gonna be called drag or what, it's just so fuckin FUNNY. toby jo Dec 2013 #29
Ha ha ha!!! Love it!!!! Initech Dec 2013 #33
Guess you didn't do your homework Bubba Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2013 #36
Love the horrified mother in the news clip MadrasT Dec 2013 #38
Lucy Van Pelt would not care for this, either. Kurovski Dec 2013 #39
That's great, Quantess Dec 2013 #40

fleur-de-lisa

(14,647 posts)
1. Love it! F*ck the haters!
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 04:23 PM
Dec 2013

"Since news of the incident at the parade hit social media last night, the group has booked events for New Year’s Eve and Mardi Gras."

MineralMan

(146,575 posts)
3. One mom they interviewed was "shocked."
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 04:34 PM
Dec 2013

They didn't ask her 10 year old daughter what she thought of the "Prancing Elite," though. I wonder what she would have said. These dancers were fully clothed and did nothing offensive, as far as I could see in the video. I can't, for the life of me, see any reason to object to their being in this parade, frankly.

warrant46

(2,205 posts)
35. The duck dynasty Mom using her children as a shield to hide her prejudice is appalling.
Mon Dec 23, 2013, 08:44 AM
Dec 2013

The barely concealed racism emanating from her pie hole sadly unsurprisingly common in this cesspool of bigotry.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
4. Well, things do seem to be getting better. At least the overwhelming negative response didn't
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 04:36 PM
Dec 2013

include any lynchings, whereas, only 32 short years ago...the last lynching

Discovery Channel premieres a documentary tonight with Ted Koppel about three Americans whose lives were profoundly affected by white supremacist terrorism. The most recent incident: a 1981 lynching in Mobile, Alabama in which a 19-year-old black man was killed by two members of the Ku Klux Klan. Here's the thing that really amazes me, looking at the details on this program tonight: Barack Obama, the first black presidential candidate nominated by a major American political party, is almost exactly the same age as that young man killed in that "last lynching." They were born some months apart. The point being: our nation's bad old days weren't all that long ago -- if we can even say they're past tense at all. Trailer above, and snip from the program description:

This year, however, each [victim of racial violence profiled in this program] was directly involved in naming Senator Barack Obama as the Democratic Party’s nominee for president. "Barack Obama's nomination doesn't mean the end of racism any more than Sarah Palin's nomination signals the end of sexism or gender bias in America. But what giant steps forward! The Last Lynching offers a look at how far we've come on the racial front, and how recent some of the worst days of racial violence really were," explained Koppel.

Koppel and his team of producers take viewers into the lives of these three: Congressman Robert Filner who, as an 18-year-old Freedom Rider, was thrown into Mississippi’s Parchman Prison; Florida schoolteacher Lizzie Jenkins who recalls tales of her grandfather watching the lynching of five African Americans in 1916; and Congressman Artur Davis who as a law student worked to hold the Ku Klux Klan accountable for "The Last Lynching," which took place in Mobile, Ala., in 1981.

http://boingboing.net/2008/10/13/the-last-lynching-te.html


Laughing Mirror

(4,185 posts)
5. And they were certainly the best act in the parade
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 04:37 PM
Dec 2013

which would have made them even more shocking to the fine residents of Semmes.

pacalo

(24,722 posts)
7. The irony continues with the ad on the rawstory page...
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 04:48 PM
Dec 2013

"Tell A&E to stop silencing Christians" -- with the picture of the Duck Dynasty guy.



Behind the Aegis

(54,365 posts)
22. And, unlike drag performers....
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 06:26 PM
Dec 2013

...they don't wear wigs, nor tuck, nor have stage names, nor wear women's accoutrements. They aren't drag performers, they are a dance troupe.

Behind the Aegis

(54,365 posts)
14. They are a fun bunch, but they are NOT drag queens.
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 05:33 PM
Dec 2013

I met them several times in NOLA. I am glad they are OK, it could have turned really ugly, really quick.

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
15. Not drag queens?
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 05:55 PM
Dec 2013

Are you saying they are only men who dress up in women's clothes for the purposes of entertainment, as opposed to drag queens? Oh wait...

Behind the Aegis

(54,365 posts)
17. They don't dress up in women's clothes.
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 06:02 PM
Dec 2013

They dress up in dance unitards, like the picture shows. They are not drag queens as a troupe, though one does preform in drag, but not during the dance troupe numbers.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
18. I was wondering about that, I didn't think the picture was accurate to
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 06:09 PM
Dec 2013

the article labeling them as drag queens. Unitards are standard wear for dance troupes.

Behind the Aegis

(54,365 posts)
19. Well, I know one of them does do drag, but that isn't how.
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 06:13 PM
Dec 2013

Unitards, even 'dolled up' ones like the ones in the pic, are not the makings of a drag queen. Note they are not wearing full-on make-up, no wig, and no tucking. They are just an all-male gay dance troupe. I must say, their red outfits are much nicer. I think I have a pic of them somewhere, I have to look. The really short one...he is a fucking HOOT! Do NOT have liquid in your mouth if he starts talking to you!

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
21. Yes I noticed no wigs or makeup.
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 06:26 PM
Dec 2013

I will remember that, a sense of humor is priceless! I can listen to someone joke for hours until my cheeks start to hurt from chronic laughter.

I love watching people dance and the performing arts. I would kill to be in that kind of shape! Well not literally, but to be really good you have to be in athletically fit condition imo.

I won't say how long it has been since I've been in any kind of shape but pear.

Behind the Aegis

(54,365 posts)
24. They have a red set, which includes pants and muscle t-shirts.
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 06:32 PM
Dec 2013

That, of course, wouldn't be classified as "women's clothes." They are being labeled "drag queens" because they are gay and wear "outlandish" outfits.

They are in great shape. I was talking to my partner and we remember the tall, lanky one doing a kick over his head and holding it...in SKINNY JEANS. How he didn't split his pants or destroy his nads is a mystery! You really would like their performance. They mix a variety of dances from modern, to ballet, to step. They put on a really good show.

As for the pear shape, yeah, I feel ya. I used to be rail thin, but at 44 years of age, my body doesn't burn fat like it used to do. I think I am going to buy an elliptical; I am tired of looking like a webble-wobble.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
25. 42 here.
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 06:37 PM
Dec 2013

Was at one time IN shape like those gentleman. I have no excuse, my boss has a full station weight machine and it is at my disposal anytime I want to use it.

I find my will to exercise has diminished after 40. I need to make it a New Years resolution to start using it or at least exercise like I did just 10 years ago.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
27. Oh yes you know it!
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 06:46 PM
Dec 2013

Hell you know it if I can get back into THAT kinda shape and you can too we are doing something! If nothing else some group selfies! I don't care were you live I'll show up for that! Of course tasteful selfies, all above board.

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
31. Those unitards are defintitely women's attire
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 09:44 PM
Dec 2013

I think I can speak from growing up in rural Texas, combined with years of sitting with my wife and watching Project Runway. Only a woman or a drag queen would wear that.

Behind the Aegis

(54,365 posts)
32. Well, I can speak as someone who is intimately aquainted with the drag world...
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 10:37 PM
Dec 2013

..they AIN'T drag queens!

No wig, no stage name, no female accoutrements, and no tucking, you can be sure they are NOT drag queens. I have worked with overtly feminine male acts (not drag), drag queens, and female impersonators (not really considered drag queens either). So, you might want to reconsider your definition as one that may be mired in prejudice, and consider the one from someone who has worked with actual drag queens, as well as the performers mentioned in the OP...they AIN'T drag queens.

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
34. Mired in prejudice? Perhaps
Mon Dec 23, 2013, 08:11 AM
Dec 2013

I'm of an age where that is possible. However, the definitions I'm seeing from merriam webster, Britannica and OED mention nothing about wigs, stage names, accouterments and tucking. When I delivered pizzas in college, there were several gay men who worked at the same place, and we would go to a local bar after work called The Round Up, which had a night for drag queens. I never noticed "tucking" going on.
The definitions revolve around wearing women's clothing for the purpose of entertainment. Perhaps there is a spectrum, as there are in so many aspects of life, of not a drag queen to super duper drag queen.
I'll certainly agree that a man who wears women's clothing, has a stage name, wears female accouterments (stuffed bra? I'm not real sure what female accouterments means) and tucks his junk is definitely a drag queen. But those costumes from the Prancing guys (drawing attention to the chest and v-shape pf the groin) are definitely not a man's leotard.

Behind the Aegis

(54,365 posts)
41. 2 things
Mon Dec 23, 2013, 11:51 PM
Dec 2013

First, I owe you apology. I used "prejudice" when I should have used "biased." Though 'prejudice' could fit, it is a loaded word and it didn't convey what I was trying to say. That's what I get for having multiple windows open (I was reading some pretty anti-Semitic shit and getting madder by the minute, then I wrote the reply to you). I was also a bit peeved because I have been involved in the drag community for over 20 years, not that you would know this, but having someone who has had casual experience with that community tell me what it is and isn't was insulting, but you can't be held responsible for information you didn't have.

Second, you pretty much distinguished why the "Prancing Elites" are not drag queens. While their clothes are not masculine (in that pic, at least; as I said in other posts, they have a variety of costumes, including pants and t-shirts), their act is not reliant on their dressing in that manner. Their talent is dancing. A drag queen is known for dressing as a woman, with all the trimmings, and preforming as a woman. While they may be able to dance and sing (though usually lip sync), the overall concept is that they look like a woman. The PE are all about the dancing; the outfits, outlandish as they may be, are nothing more than dressing. If it were reverse, drag queens they would be.

Anyway, have a happy holiday season.

MadrasT

(7,237 posts)
38. Love the horrified mother in the news clip
Mon Dec 23, 2013, 03:23 PM
Dec 2013

WON'T SOMEBODY THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!1!!11

Oh the HORROR!!!!1!



I love this so much.

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