how about everyone on the male/female debate grow up?

[backwoodsbob]

do we really need eighty god damn threads on a male/female debate right now?Really?

How BOUT EVERY GOD DAMNED ONE OF YOU fighting in every one of these threads GROW THE FUCK UP.

BOTH sides are parsing every letter of every word of every sentence looking for a reason to be offended right now.

I'll offend both sides....BOTH SIDES GROW THE FUCK UP

We have the treaty to worry about...and mid terms...and fraud...and the banksters....and this is what we have over 50 threads worrying about? GOD DAMNIT!!!!!

We have elections to worry about so take your fucking bullshit to yahoo where it belongs and let the fucking grownups figure out how to win elections

[XemaSab]

1. Fuck you

I assume that 50 years ago you would have told black people to STFU too?

[backwoodsbob]

10. no im tired of the fighting

we are here to win elections and get our side elected and help each other...we arent here to fight each other

[Gravitycollapse]

15. Based on your post, you don't seem to be particularly tired of the fighting.

You seem to be pretty eager to jump right in.

[roguevalley]

56. backwoodbob, we are here to talk to each other about anything and

everything. Elections are a ways down the road. We have time and inclination to speak our minds about everything. Right now, man/woman is on people's minds.

[demmiblue]

12. I wouldn't doubt it.

[Alittleliberal]

13. Way to totally take out of context what he was talking about

[Comrade Grumpy]

60. Really, jurors? This post stands? That's about as blatant as it gets.

The DU jury system is worse than useless, it's pernicious. Sadly, it depends on the wisdom of the jurors, who have proven to be a fickle and ideology-driven lot. If people agree with the position of the poster, they allow the post whether it violates the rules (and lowers our already ever-sinking standards) or not. That seems to work in reverse, too. It makes a mockery of the jury system.


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[XemaSab]

61. Interesting

I was sort of expecting it to be deleted.

[oberliner]

2. "do we really need eighty god damn threads on a male/female debate right now?"

So you started another one - why?

[seattledo]

9. Exactly

He adds nothing of substance to his typical male "keep oppressing them" crap. By supporting the current horrors, you are just as guilty as those that create those horrors.

[backwoodsbob]

14. keep oppressing them?really

wow...you about missed the point as bad as is possible.

I want us working together ...I'm just sick of all the arguing amongst ourselves.How you got keep oppressing them out of telling BOTH sides to quit being petty is amazing

[Schema Thing]

3. why don't YOU grow up, poopoo-head??

Sorry folks, he forced me to bring out the big guns.

[Squinch]

43. .

[Whisp]

4. how about you just stick to the back woods

and let us city slickers speak out about whatever the hell we want to speak out about.

who elected you to whatever?

[backwoodsbob]

18. I will

if this place represents the party I wouldn't admit to being a part of it in public

[Whisp]

20. whatever floats your bob. n/t

[NoOneMan]

5. "do we really need eighty god damn threads on a male/female debate right now?"

Before this post, we needed 81. But now we can die happy

[VanillaRhapsody]

6. This is one thread that deserves the boot!

How DARE YOU presume to tell others what they should or shouldn't find important.

[DanTex]

7. Make that eighty-one threads...

[bluesbassman]

36. Wait, is it 81 or 51? I'm hell of confused now.

[Texasgal]

8. I'd appreciate if you

didn't tell me what to post or what's important to me.

Thank you.

[quinnox]

11. This is the first "rant" style thread that I think I have ever agreed with you

Nice rant!

[kcr]

16. Maybe you should take the advice yourself n/t

[demmiblue]

17. The dog killer has spoken. n/t

[loli phabay]

27. kind of out of left field there

[kcr]

31. post 7

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x8665082

[loli phabay]

33. thanks, i get the context now,

[jimlup]

19. Thank you!

Indeed - not that gender issues don't have a place but ...

[Whisp]

22. and of course you and the OP are the ones to decide where that 'place' is.

[jimlup]

57. You are putting words in my mouth

Exactly the type of tactic we are talking about. Guess what - I'm ALLOWED to have and express MY OPINION.

[JVS]

21. There's a debate going on? I just thought a bunch of people were getting pissed off.

[mercymechap]

23. Ha,ha.....

[bettyellen]

40. men would like to decide the time, place, words permissible to use and tone. all of this, I read on

DU.

[Wounded Bear]

25. Or pissed on, if you wade through the rhetoric...

[Vashta Nerada]

24. No.

We have to worry about creepy guys checking us out. Forget the important issues.

At least that's what the trolls want us to believe.

[TreasonousBastard]

26. You think this is bad? Wait till the primaries start...

and it really heats up in here.

You'll pray to have this silliness back.

[oberliner]

28. Hillary Clinton

Remember that name!

[Shandris]

32. Oh wow, you had to remind me of those didn't ya?

Even simply watching those debates is painful.

[MattBaggins]

29. For someone telling other to grow up

Back at ya child

[The_Commonist]

30. It's really boring.

It's one of the things that makes this place suck sometimes. Attention-seeking button pushers on both sides, nit-pickers looking for offense, the usual cast of characters whining incessantly and not seeming to actually DO anything.

It's really pretty simple - Oppression sucks. Our species has treated women like shit for a long time. Some of us are trying to do our small part to smash the patriarchy, but it will take time. It does no good whatsoever for us to attack each other, but it's convenient to do so. I think pretty much everybody on DU, except for obvious trolls, is more or less on the same side of where we need to go as a species, but not everybody is as "enlightened," or moves at quite the same pace. But, as you point out, if you don't dot your i or cross your t properly, the same half dozen or so people will barrage you with negativity. It's like they think they can get people to change by constantly berating them. Delusional!

I've stayed out of those threads because they suck. And we've got so much other work to do as well, besides smashing the patriarchy. That's simply one of about a hundred major agenda items, it may or may not be at the top of the list, but it's certainly not going to happen by people who generally agree with each other yelling at each other anonymously on internet discussion forums.

[passiveporcupine]

53. I'm not sure they are attention seekers, but

they certainly are sensitive on certain issues. I've been a lurker for years at DU, and didn't join because of all the petty battles here and the people who become incensed if everyone doesn't agree with them or hold the same hot button issues as sacred. It does drag your soul down after awhile. I really appreciate the rational thinkers here, who try to bring some sense into the discussions.

[pa28]

34. Eh, it's just silly season at DU. We'll be off Duck Dynasty and battling sexes by next week.

[bluesbassman]

37. You know what I find ironic Bob?

That your post is directed at people who are engaging in the current unpleasantness to be found on DU where posts and OPs are directed at certain behaviors and when someone posts that they don't appreciate the broad-brushing aspects the response they receive is that they should not take it personally if the behaviors cited do not apply to them. Some of the responses here to your percieved broad-brushing (see how that works sports fans?) seem to be taking your comments personally. I dunno, just strikes me as ironic.

Merry Christmas Bob.

[backwoodsbob]

39. Merry Chistmas to you as well Bluesbassman

and happy holidays to everyone.

[BlueToTheBone]

38. You left off radiation of the Pacific Ocean nt

[Chaco Dundee]

41. yes sir

Could not agree more.

[geek tragedy]

42. nothing says "grown up" like ALL CAPS. Also, there is no 'male/female'

debate here--the vast majority of the men are on board with what the women are saying.

[backwoodsbob]

44. my wife and i can agrue about everything

we can have a heated debate about where our 401(k) money is directed,then have a debate about who is the best pop and or rock singer of the 70's...but we have always treated each others as equals.

WHY CANT EVERYONE JUST TREAT EACH OTHER AS EQUALS?

I think my wife and i have more grown up arguments about whether cocoa puffs or cocoa pebbles are a better cereal than 90% of the arguments here

[LiberalElite]

45. +1,000,000,000 n/t

[xulamaude]

46. No! YOU grow up first!!1!

Jesus.

[WowSeriously]

47. I didn't realize you were required to read threads

[BainsBane]

48. If I could post an Indian PSA about street harassment

or a discussion of rape or violence against women without a few members taking it as some sort of personal attack on their rights, that would help a great deal. I, however, will not stop posting about human rights because some don't like it. Women are half of humanity, and I believe violence against women matters a great deal. If I am not safe from rape and assault, a bankers actions don't matter much. It's a clear hierarchy of needs.

Now, I certainly agree that it would go a long way if some did not insist on seeing their own rights tied to silence about rape and other kinds of violence against women. Why they do, I can't begin to imagine.

[avebury]

49. I admit that I have gotten sick and tired of

the endless threads on the female/male debate - to the point that I am starting to trash threads based upon the titles and not look any further at them. The problem I have is the lack of any productive discussion and too much useless yelling and antagonizing each other. DU seems to be going downhill rapidly these days which is really disappointing.

[Egalitarian Thug]

50. So you think that dismissing over half of the people you need to win

is both a good idea and a reason to post another thread on it?

[Baclava]

51. hey, I only got hidden once in the innies vs. outies wars, but us naked apes are just like that

Everybody wants a banana


fuck, I mispelled banana, and misspelled

[Dustlawyer]

52. It is annoying having the "spelling/punctuation" people, the negative people who try to poke holes

in a post w/o knowledge in the subject or w/o checking something they could easily verify. I have learned a lot here at DU and I like it. People are going to be people, I just wish they would show some respect!

[NV Whino]

54. Wait, you're counting yourself among the grown ups?

[Sheldon Cooper]

55. Is one of your dogs barking, or something?

[alp227]

58. If the threads were debating black vs white people's intelligence...

they'd all be hidden by 6-0 juries and there'd be a bunch of PPR's. So why are sexist threads of similar pseudoscientific tone still allowed on a PROGRESSIVE message board?

[treestar]

59. Stay out of it if you don't like it

It is fascinating, to see the changes in our society - I've lived during the women's movement as a kid until today and seen so much progress and so much fighting against that progress. It's part of our daily lives, and we can discuss it.