Did we overestimate the negative impact Bridge-gate would have on Chris Chrstie?

[Penicilino]

As a new CNN poll finds that Christie is ahead of Clinton 48%-46% in a hypothetical election match-up, is it safe to say that it will take more than allegations of conspiracy to bring this guy down?

I believe Christie will go down if we focus on what brought Romney down: His support for the rich vs. the poor.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/12/26/2016-cnn-poll-clinton-deadlocked-with-christie-but-leads-other-gop-presidential-possibilities/comment-page-7/

[tularetom]

1. Kinda hard to make that rich v. poor argument if Clinton is our candidate

$200k for a speech to Goldman Sachs? gimme a break.

[Penicilino]

9. Here's the problem. Bill Clinton charges a lot too, and the poor loved him

and still do.

Besides Obamacare, which has insured many poor, is very similar to Clinton's health care plan in the last campaign. It even has the mandate that Clinton had and Obama didn't.

[TreasonousBastard]

2. Why would Bridgegate be any different...

Republicans tend to be immune from this sort of attack.

[karynnj]

10. I suspect is that we have nothing like their echo chamber

Think of ANYTHING twisted to frame a Democrat as bad. Remember how it built up: First a flood of twitter comments, mostly hateful - often with links from RW blogs to videos of the offending comment - then all the talk radio people condemning it using the same arguments - then Fox News - then the conservatives on CNN -- then some conservative news columnists. Finally, now that it registers as a big story, it hits the major papers and the more neutral news. By then, it sounds like "where there is smoke there is fire"

Finally, the concluding attempt to label things - even after they were proven to be partisan lies - the "neutral" definitions alluding to them in places like the AP. Two examples - many times when the media needs to describe either 2004 or Kerry's career, the AP speaks of the SBVT as "questioning" Kerry's record -- and more recently saying they questioned his 1971 protests (which they did - but it was his war record they hit hardest). The implication being that he did something wrong - not that he is a genuine war hero. Second - in summaries of 1013, TIME labeled one as "IRS Scandal" - even though the explanation then explains that nothing wrong was done. Still, people not paying a lot of attention - see in bold face - SCANDAL.

[cthulu2016]

3. I didn't think it would have national impact

It's effect will mostly be in reporters seeing that pattern of behavior as "a thing" and noting it as part of hs character in future.

[Ilsa]

4. Not enough people outside of NY & NJ

know the story.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

5. Are most Americans paying attention to Bridgegate?

I'm not. I'm also not surprised at how close they are polling -- the country is THAT divided.

[truedelphi]

6. Bridge Gate? Every other city in America has a Bridge Gate - and half are in

Democratic territory. Of course some of these corrupt deals have to do with highways, or stadiums, so I shouldn't put the emphasis on bridges.

Do you really think that the San Francisco Bay Bridge with its 4 and half BILLIONS of dollars of costs overruns didn't have some connection with the Feinstein-Richard Blum dynasty?

And then it turned out that the bridge was defective, to boot!

[NOVA_Dem]

7. I think other Dems are afraid of Christie. Why is MSNBC talking about this bridge so much?

Personally, I think Christie would've beat Obama if he decided to run. It's obvious that MSNBC is "shook" b/c they keep talking about Christie and the bridge.

Trying to make Christie look like Romney won't work b/c Romney was a walking stereotype. I don't think Christie would reinforce the image that he's a wall street crony. The republican crop of candidates was SOOO BAD they felt their best bet was to nominate a Wall $treet Outsourcer in the first presidential election after Great Recession.

I think focusing on Christie bullying teachers/women would be more effective.

[Pretzel_Warrior]

8. the sludge hasn't even stated to be released by Dem opp research team--and other Repukes...

they are keeping their powder dry until 2015 as well. When Christie's shit hits the fan, it will not look pretty.

[anti partisan]

11. Not many people watch MSNBC

Thus the nation as a whole is pretty clueless about Bridge-gate. It's foolish to say whether or not it'd have an effect based on one poll before the vast majority of people are exposed to it.

[spanone]

12. i would believe a daycare center poll before i'd believe a cnn poll...fuckem

[Cha]

14. Thank you. cnn's trying to run the narrative and

too many get sucked in like it's all real and shit.

spanone

[dawg]

13. This is why we need to draw clear distinctions between us and the Republicans.

Pro-choice corporatism isn't going to cut it.

[SoCalDem]

15. Patience, Grasshopper

[Iggo]

16. I think the problem is nobody saw Duckgate coming.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

17. With Christie underlings lawyering-up, the impact of that bridge thing is nowhere near being at

a point where we could have overestimated it.

And CNN has no credibility, nor do their polls.

[Penicilino]

20. Which pollster has credibility?

So that we keep track of such pollster's matchups and compare them to the results of CNN in the near future. Thanks.

[kratos00]

18. Although Christie is relatively well known he has not been

Vetted on a national scale whereas Hilary has been more thoroughly scrutinized than possibly any potential presidential candidate in history. Hilary's numbers will not move while Christies will suffer after the nation truly gets a look at him. In other words this poll is useless.

[msanthrope]

19. You sound concerned. Welcome to DU. nt