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livingwagenow

(373 posts)
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 08:04 PM Dec 2013

435 House seats, 35 US Senate seats, 36 governors are up for election in 2014.

That's what is at stake.

That is what Wage-Free Trade, NAFTA, and TPP will cost us in Nov.

Unless we abandon and repeal ALL NAFTA's.

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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
4. You mean
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 09:03 PM
Dec 2013

I think the ACA alone will be enough to give the Republicans control of all three.

...like how it helped Romney win?

GOP ‘confronting a new reality’ on healthcare
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024235936

Merry Christmas, and thanks to all Democrats who stood by and supported the health care law.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024227754

doc03

(39,078 posts)
6. The 2012 election was before the ACA web site debacle
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 10:33 PM
Dec 2013

I think we are going to see a bigger blood bath than in 2010. Even if they get their 7 million sign-ups those people have a history of not voting. Everyone I talk too Democrats and Republicans say the whole thing should be scrapped. Look at the polls a few weeks after the government shutdown and the Republicans are in the lead in a generic survey. Everyone that has a Medicare supplement increase, deductible increase, co-pay increase or when they can't see their doctor is going to blame the ACA. I read today that even the Administration predicts 75-80 million people will lose their insurance next year when the employer mandate goes in effect.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
7. You think
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 10:40 PM
Dec 2013

"I think we are going to see a bigger blood bath than in 2010."

...Americans want Republicans to repeal it?

"I read today that even the Administration predicts 75-80 million people will lose their insurance next year when the employer mandate goes in effect."

LOL!

doc03

(39,078 posts)
8. Don't get me wrong I have been hoping we got a national health care
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 10:48 PM
Dec 2013

program since Clinton. I have reported a couple positive results here myself. The thing of it is outside of DU and a little on MSNBC I haven't heard any positive stories. We are getting killed by the MSN. People are angry over it even more so than in 2010. Every single day I pick up the paper and there is at least one new problem with the ACA reported.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
9. Maybe
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 10:55 PM
Dec 2013

"The thing of it is outside of DU and a little on MSNBC I haven't heard any positive stories. We are getting killed by the MSN. People are angry over it even more so than in 2010. Every single day I pick up the paper and there is at least one new problem with the ACA reported."

...you should ignore the media's anti-Obamacare spin.

The good Obamacare news bubbles up
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024096592

I mean, everyday tens of thousands of people are signing up.







doc03

(39,078 posts)
11. That may be true but who the hell reads DU that isn't a Democrat to start with
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 11:00 PM
Dec 2013

and same goes for the evening programs on MSNBC. We are losing the PR war big time. I am a supporter of the ACA and have more doubts about it every day.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
12. What
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 11:13 PM
Dec 2013

"That may be true but who the hell reads DU that isn't a Democrat to start with and same goes for the evening programs on MSNBC. We are losing the PR war big time. I am a supporter of the ACA and have more doubts about it every day. "

...does reading DU have to do with the fact that tens of thousands are signing up everyday?

You seem to want to believe the negative.

Seriously, Republicans are not winning the health care debate.

You should really read this: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024235936

doc03

(39,078 posts)
19. A link to a DU post about Rachel Maddow on MSNBC? There are like 200,000 people on
Sat Dec 28, 2013, 02:41 PM
Dec 2013

DU that are going to vote for a Democrat no matter what and a few more that watch MSNBC. Look at the
polls on the ACA! For every one success story on DU and MSNBC there are 20 horror stories in the MSM.
Signing people up for Medicaid is not going to save the ACA, there has to be young healthy paying customers for it to work
otherwise insurance premiums will go through the roof in 2015. I think in 2014 the Republicans will likely take control
of the Senate and increase their hold on the House.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
20. This is
Sat Dec 28, 2013, 02:51 PM
Dec 2013

"Signing people up for Medicaid is not going to save the ACA, there has to be young healthy paying customers for it to work
otherwise insurance premiums will go through the roof in 2015. I think in 2014 the Republicans will likely take control
of the Senate and increase their hold on the House."

...is completely inaccurate. You really need to look into how the ACA is financed.

 

lonestarnot

(77,097 posts)
14. And the worst story is that Canadians created the fucking problem when Americans needed the jobs and
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 11:18 PM
Dec 2013

would have done a much better job. We should have started off with single payer instead of tip toeing to it.

doc03

(39,078 posts)
10. I actually ran into our best hope of winning back our
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 10:56 PM
Dec 2013

district from the Teabagger that was elected in 2010. I asked him if he was going to run and he said no he doesn't think the political climate next year is in our favor.

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