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woolldog

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This message was self-deleted by its author (Original Post) woolldog Dec 2013 OP
wtf? simply creating this Op make me wonder more than what you posted. seabeyond Dec 2013 #1
Probably a response to another thread Scootaloo Dec 2013 #3
hmmm. k. not following the other threads. thanks. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #6
well this thread made me wonder: woolldog Dec 2013 #7
thank you for the clarification. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #9
you might want to add link to OP. otherwise, this may not go well. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #12
Only if you don't want to date gay men. MNBrewer Dec 2013 #46
I see a difference there treestar Dec 2013 #48
my phobia used to be that I'd date a woman and she'd end up being Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #312
Reminds me of that 80s movie treestar Dec 2013 #313
I'd make a joke about your post but Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #2
please do. woolldog Dec 2013 #8
Ehhh...I'm sure you wouldn't be offended Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #14
That 'joke' was a homophobic crap that should have gotten your arse kicked off DU. idwiyo Dec 2013 #49
It still might BainsBane Dec 2013 #51
I sure hope so. It makes me sick to even think that shit can be posted on DU. idwiyo Dec 2013 #54
Oh lighten up, Francis Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #56
Your 'joke' was insinuation that transwomen are 'fake', not 'real' women. That's homophobic to boot. idwiyo Dec 2013 #60
Actually it wasn't ...since body enhancement Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #69
Yes it was. You made that statement in a thread about transwomen. It was homophobic to boot. idwiyo Dec 2013 #79
Good lord, you clearly live to be offended Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #84
You clearly think that homophobia is not a big deal. A 'joke'. idwiyo Dec 2013 #88
Ohhh, now I'm homophobic because I won't Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #89
You insinuated that transwomen are 'fake'. That's why you woudn't date them, according to you. idwiyo Dec 2013 #94
Only if you make believe everyone getting plastic surgery Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #95
According to you sex reassignment surgery is the same as plastic surgery. That's homophobic to boot. idwiyo Dec 2013 #99
The fact that both surgeries are changing the natural body Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #101
The fact that you believe that some women are 'fake' because they were born with idwiyo Dec 2013 #107
If you're offended by the fact that surgeries to create a vagina Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #109
You just openly insinuated that women who are born with wrong genitalia are not 'natural'. idwiyo Dec 2013 #116
Jaysus...even with the additional explanation Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #117
You posted a homophobic post and it was hidden. Your attempt to dig yourself out of shithole idwiyo Dec 2013 #128
Neat trick...make a general statement that has no reference to sexuality Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #131
You posted a homophobic post in a thread about transwomen. Keep digging. idwiyo Dec 2013 #140
It was a question about dating transgendered women Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #142
Keep trying to make an excuse for your homophobic post? Keep digging. idwiyo Dec 2013 #145
You keep using that word. I do not think it means Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #147
There is no difference between transphobia and homophobia. Your hidden post was homophobic. idwiyo Dec 2013 #153
How do you know it wasn't just anti-woman? Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #155
Are you, in fact, "just" anti-woman? cyberswede Dec 2013 #170
Bahahahaha! Unbelievable!! Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #171
Jees, I forgot to consider that you might be a gay/bi- male who hates plastic surgery and idwiyo Dec 2013 #180
Some people need plastic surgery. Get the fuck over yourself. nt RedCappedBandit Dec 2013 #240
You are a gay man posting 'I don't date women with fake parts'? I should have considered that? idwiyo Dec 2013 #172
Hahahahaha!! Desperate to be offended Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #175
You posted a homophobic statement is the thread about dating transwomen. It was hidden idwiyo Dec 2013 #192
Hahahahaha!! I'll have to remember the word "anyone" Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #194
Your hidden post was homophobic. It was not a 'joke'. It was deliberate bigoted insult. Keep digging idwiyo Dec 2013 #197
Is the word "anyone" as insulting as "everyone" Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #198
'fake vaginas' in reference to transwomen is what made your post homophobic. Deal with it. idwiyo Dec 2013 #200
gay and bisexual men are not 'anti woman'. Bluenorthwest Dec 2013 #229
I'm counting the days... cyberswede Dec 2013 #156
I read your link, and checked the rest of profile. Am counting the days with you... idwiyo Dec 2013 #167
He won't be here long. A-Schwarzenegger Dec 2013 #121
I didn't look at his profile but I am not surprised at all. Hopefully it wouldn't be much longer. idwiyo Dec 2013 #135
Gone for a couple months starting Jan 6, minimum. A-Schwarzenegger Dec 2013 #138
Of course! Totally forgot about new rules. Thank you for reminding me! idwiyo Dec 2013 #143
Way. eom uppityperson Dec 2013 #160
6 hidden now. A-Schwarzenegger Dec 2013 #205
And flagged for review. Ms. Toad Dec 2013 #211
Excellent, thanks for the good news. Flagged for review, can't post til Admin says he can. uppityperson Dec 2013 #212
I bet a pepperoni he's gone for good A-Schwarzenegger Dec 2013 #214
Thank you for great news, missed it. Thank you jurors! idwiyo Dec 2013 #218
So I Guess You Answered the Original Post -- On the Road Dec 2013 #227
I am assuming you are complitely ignorant so I will explain. idwiyo Dec 2013 #231
I Am Happy to Refer to Someone as "She" On the Road Dec 2013 #232
Do you refer to other women in your life as 'she' just as a matter of social convention? idwiyo Dec 2013 #234
Thank you for your efforts to educate these bigoted posters. Jamastiene Dec 2013 #268
Thank you, you made me blush. :) I don't know how else to deal with this problem. idwiyo Dec 2013 #270
Thank you cinnabonbon Dec 2013 #287
Very succinct and concise explanation. Feral Child Dec 2013 #284
Making a point of publicly displaying those preferences BainsBane Dec 2013 #63
Thank god I didn't say anything about not liking bleached hair Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #73
Insinuating that transwomen are 'fake' is homophobic bigotry. You did just that by posting idwiyo Dec 2013 #83
I didn't say anything about transwomen...I said women Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #86
You insinuated that transwomen are 'fake' by posting your bigoted shit in a thread about transwomen. idwiyo Dec 2013 #91
Your inference doesn't mean I implied it Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #103
You sure did, that's why your homophobic post was hidden. idwiyo Dec 2013 #184
You keep using the wrong word Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #187
There is no difference between transphobia and homophobia. Your hidden post was homophobic. idwiyo Dec 2013 #191
Hahahahaha! You keep using the wrong word Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #193
Homophobia encompasses a range of negative attitudes and feelings toward LGBTQ community. idwiyo Dec 2013 #195
Post removed Post removed Dec 2013 #196
Anti-cacophobic means 'against fear of ugliness'. Are you implying that transwomen are cacophobic? idwiyo Dec 2013 #199
well, he already told us the he could be a gay or bisexual man who is anti woman. boston bean Dec 2013 #202
Account status: Flagged for review A-Schwarzenegger Dec 2013 #208
well, at least he's been put on hold for now. boston bean Dec 2013 #209
he is anti-women and 'anti fear of ugliness' gay/bi- male who doesn't date women with 'fake' vaginas idwiyo Dec 2013 #210
He's been PPR'd BainsBane Dec 2013 #245
Great news! Thank you! idwiyo Dec 2013 #246
YOU lighten up! Texasgal Dec 2013 #185
Hahahaha! I didn't realize plastic surgery was so popular Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #188
This had nothing to do with plastic surgery Texasgal Dec 2013 #221
Having a personal preference, not necessarily, Ms. Toad Dec 2013 #203
We won't have to hear from him for 3 months given the Aerows Dec 2013 #174
Good! K&R! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2013 #182
If he survives the review, Ms. Toad Dec 2013 #215
I didn't realize fake teeth and fake hair Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #52
That wasn't all you said. Go ahead, repeat and defend the rest of it too. idwiyo Dec 2013 #58
Do only the transgendered get boob jobs? Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #59
Keep digging. Your post was, and still is a homophobic bigoted crap. idwiyo Dec 2013 #65
Only to people who think plastic surgery Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #67
According to your statement transwomen are 'fake'. You obviously think that sex reassignment surgery is idwiyo Dec 2013 #78
Of course...because there's no possible way Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #80
You also said fake vaginas. BainsBane Dec 2013 #72
Never heard of vaginal reconstruction? Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #74
Keep it up BainsBane Dec 2013 #76
I didn't make a mistake unless it was assuming Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #77
You clearly believe that sex reassignment surgery is the same as plastic surgery. idwiyo Dec 2013 #105
Hahahahaha! You're going to just make up things Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #106
Keep digging. There is no excuse for homophobia. It's sick, ans so was your original post. idwiyo Dec 2013 #110
I didn't backpedal from anything. I made a joke Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #111
You posted a homophobic statement and it was hidden. It was not a 'joke'. idwiyo Dec 2013 #119
I made no reference to anyone's sexuality Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #122
You did. Starting with your hidden homophobic post. idwiyo Dec 2013 #132
Bahahahha...I guess the word "anyone" Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #134
Your purely homophobic post in a thread about transgender women told me all I need to know. idwiyo Dec 2013 #137
Calling me a homophobe doesn't make me homophobic Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #141
Posting homophobic statements does make one a homophobe. Keep digging. idwiyo Dec 2013 #148
I made no such statements Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #149
Maybe not "statements" but "statement" for sure. uppityperson Dec 2013 #161
Nope Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #162
Evidently the admins thought it over and Rex Dec 2013 #239
About damn time too. I called it withinn the first 10 posts. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Dec 2013 #314
Same here, that username alone made me think Rex Dec 2013 #315
I know right? When you come out right away talking about "you people are Guy Whitey Corngood Dec 2013 #317
Sidestep until the cows come home. HappyMe Dec 2013 #87
Oh lord...you guys really need to think before you react Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #90
Oh lord - you really need to think. HappyMe Dec 2013 #92
Clearly I put more thought into my post than you did Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #93
lol! HappyMe Dec 2013 #96
I know the word "anyone" is confusing Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #97
. Ms. Toad Dec 2013 #201
He has more than 100 posts, hopefully admin will get rid of him when new rules kick in. idwiyo Dec 2013 #213
But he is now flagged for review. Ms. Toad Dec 2013 #216
Thanks gawd for that. I was getting really sick reading all the shit he posted. Thank you, jury! idwiyo Dec 2013 #217
Jury results Zorra Dec 2013 #219
"BS has been here a month too long already." A-Schwarzenegger Dec 2013 #220
Good to see the jury gave this poster a much needed time-out. Ms. Toad Dec 2013 #222
That one is gone, a banned troll now. Rex Dec 2013 #237
Thanks! Zorra Dec 2013 #238
I just read the post and I do not find it funny at all. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #112
I'm not surprised by your post at all Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #114
your joke was disgusting and will be remembered. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #115
Some can think about it Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #118
I am not one of those people. I have a sense of humor and I found no humor in what you posted. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #120
Eh.. Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #123
just behave. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #124
Okay. I really wasn't trying to offend anyone Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #126
ok fair enough. Please say no such things again. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #129
"REMINDER AND UPDATE: Five hidden posts and you can't post"= Flameout? uppityperson Dec 2013 #127
I can't help what's alerted on or the vote of the jury Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #133
You can't help what's alerted on or voted to be hidden? Seriously?You can't help posting nasty stuff uppityperson Dec 2013 #136
I didn't realize the only people who had plastic surgery Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #139
I didn't realize that someone is forcing you to write nasty stuff and continue to defend it. Shall I uppityperson Dec 2013 #144
Whatever Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #146
And some live to be offensive uppityperson Dec 2013 #157
I can't help how you interpret things Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #158
You can help how you post offensive things though. Or wait, is that person still holding you hostage uppityperson Dec 2013 #159
I will not apologize for your interpretation Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #163
You won't apologize for being offensive. Yeah yeah yeah. We get it. Goodbye. uppityperson Dec 2013 #164
I won't apologize for your interpretations Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #165
Just put 'em on ignore. Jester Messiah Dec 2013 #181
Thanks for the advice. Probably a good idea Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #189
Why am I not surprised you are defending JTFrog Dec 2013 #224
Same reason I'm not surprised to find you attacking. Jester Messiah Dec 2013 #242
Indeed. JTFrog Dec 2013 #271
Pardon me if I don't find homophobic bigotry funny. Do you think his post was a funny 'joke'? idwiyo Dec 2013 #250
I'm sure it was an utter outrage. Jester Messiah Dec 2013 #251
Well, it's good to see that somebody has picked up the fallen torch A-Schwarzenegger Dec 2013 #252
I was thinking of putting it up on e-bay. Jester Messiah Dec 2013 #253
No, keep it, it looks good with your pitchfork. A-Schwarzenegger Dec 2013 #254
Why thank you! Jester Messiah Dec 2013 #255
I'd say the torch pretty much dominates your outfit. A-Schwarzenegger Dec 2013 #256
Would you? Jester Messiah Dec 2013 #258
There are a lot of options between A-Schwarzenegger Dec 2013 #259
Are there? Jester Messiah Dec 2013 #261
"I am assured that nothing is funny, ever." Is that what you think? Homophobia can be funny? idwiyo Dec 2013 #257
Guy's hidden posts are of a pattern. A-Schwarzenegger Dec 2013 #272
I've noticed an odd correlation... those who often use the petulance term 'outrage brigade LanternWaste Dec 2013 #262
That -is- odd. Jester Messiah Dec 2013 #265
But, that in turn....... Amaril Dec 2013 #275
Meh. [nt] Jester Messiah Dec 2013 #283
Your joke was a transphobic piece of shit. NuclearDem Dec 2013 #280
I'd joke about it too Shankapotomus Dec 2013 #17
I'm outraged by your admission Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #20
well I never! woolldog Dec 2013 #24
I imagine "uptight" is quite often used LanternWaste Dec 2013 #233
As usual, LW is on point... nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #300
Huh? arcane1 Dec 2013 #4
... freshwest Dec 2013 #5
The parallel you draw is similar to the other thread LittleBlue Dec 2013 #10
Am I phobic for not dating people I'm not attracted to? Aerows Dec 2013 #11
This thread is a really bad idea pintobean Dec 2013 #13
ugh woolldog Dec 2013 #16
Yep Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #22
Too many actively looking to offend people, too. Iggo Dec 2013 #28
Yup. Takes two to tango, or insert other expression assholes like to use... n/t nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #301
Seems as though that you were offended, no? boston bean Dec 2013 #35
Honestly? woolldog Dec 2013 #43
Or, they have good reason to be. pintobean Dec 2013 #39
Much as there are too many people on DU actively attempting and defending things that are intended t LanternWaste Dec 2013 #264
The other thread was just as bad Aerows Dec 2013 #19
I figured that out - your edit pintobean Dec 2013 #23
I didn't post in it either Aerows Dec 2013 #40
Agreed. That thread is idiocy incarnate. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2013 #64
the op is doing Niceguy1 Dec 2013 #108
You made your point there ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2013 #15
It appears Aerows Dec 2013 #179
Not sure, but you DO sound like an asshole. closeupready Dec 2013 #18
how so? woolldog Dec 2013 #21
You are making light of serious matters closeupready Dec 2013 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #27
Here 4 years and doesn't get that. pintobean Dec 2013 #30
what are other DU members saying offends them? woolldog Dec 2013 #34
Hahahaha! Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #41
Unrec. Iggo Dec 2013 #26
The one benefit of this OP BainsBane Dec 2013 #29
Exactly! boston bean Dec 2013 #32
How does the saying go? BainsBane Dec 2013 #37
We've had Paglia, Dilbert, now this... boston bean Dec 2013 #45
Yes. This x 1000. Very, very clear. closeupready Dec 2013 #33
It's a movement! Squinch Dec 2013 #102
Why, oh why? HappyMe Dec 2013 #31
Why oh why must it be this way... aikoaiko Dec 2013 #98
No, you're just a person who can't tell the difference between... Shandris Dec 2013 #36
A serious question etherealtruth Dec 2013 #38
Purely conjecture (but educated conjecture), but I think its... Shandris Dec 2013 #42
And in the trash it goes ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #44
This post was tacky. n-t Logical Dec 2013 #47
Are you trying to imply that transwomen are not 'real' women? idwiyo Dec 2013 #50
I believe that the hidden HappyMe Dec 2013 #61
So do I. The OP of course will either ignore the question or run. idwiyo Dec 2013 #68
addressed woolldog Dec 2013 #151
You didn't answer my question. Your link is the reason why I asked you this specific question. idwiyo Dec 2013 #166
well there is one other difference... scheming daemons Dec 2013 #225
Any woman you date might be infertile. You take your chances. idwiyo Dec 2013 #228
no... scheming daemons Dec 2013 #236
If he ends the relationship only because he thinks that trans- means she is not a 'real' woman is idwiyo Dec 2013 #293
As a gay man I do not get you question. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #53
Here's my interpretation Tobin S. Dec 2013 #57
That's not it at all NoOneMan Dec 2013 #62
thanks. I admit to be afraid of some straight guys but that does not mske them homophobic at all. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #66
10-4 Tobin S. Dec 2013 #75
Could you elaborate a little please? Soundman Dec 2013 #82
I get afraid sometimes that some men do not like gay guys and will get violent. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #223
That's a reasonable fear. Feral Child Dec 2013 #292
In itself, no Prophet 451 Dec 2013 #55
nope, we all are attracted to different sorts, does not mean its bigoted loli phabay Dec 2013 #70
You're clearly guilty of something. MannyGoldstein Dec 2013 #71
Yep. cherokeeprogressive Dec 2013 #81
If you're referencing something maybe you should include a link Kurska Dec 2013 #85
Trashing. Squinch Dec 2013 #100
you asking that question makes me believe you are a homophobic JI7 Dec 2013 #104
Yes, part. in light of all the follow-up 'clarifications' closeupready Dec 2013 #125
Of course not. Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #113
The fact that you've posted just to ask this question... liberalmuse Dec 2013 #130
My sources say Shankapotomus Dec 2013 #150
no, not homophobic Skittles Dec 2013 #152
good one woolldog Dec 2013 #154
not a joke Skittles Dec 2013 #168
it's your opinion. woolldog Dec 2013 #173
if you didn't care you would not be here whining Skittles Dec 2013 #178
lol woolldog Dec 2013 #186
People suffer from lifelong discrimination, but not to worry, woolldog is both amused and bemused alcibiades_mystery Dec 2013 #285
where did I say I was amused? woolldog Dec 2013 #288
More than simply Skittle's opinion... it's shared. LanternWaste Dec 2013 #235
I don't think she was making a joke JanMichael Dec 2013 #169
you're certainly entitled to your opinion, Jan. woolldog Dec 2013 #176
yes there is. Your kindergarten JanMichael Dec 2013 #183
No. No way woolldog Dec 2013 #190
What a silly post! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2013 #177
I think I get it. Skip Intro Dec 2013 #204
yes. woolldog Dec 2013 #289
I'll bet you didn't expect over 200 replies. jessie04 Dec 2013 #206
150 of the replies are the same two people going back and forth scheming daemons Dec 2013 #226
I certainly didn't anticipate this post being so controversial. nt woolldog Dec 2013 #267
Perhaps it's because you're insensitive Feral Child Dec 2013 #294
That means roughly 90-something percent of everyone on Earth is a homophobe, then. Jamaal510 Dec 2013 #207
Your question is a daft and redundant thing which answers itself. Bluenorthwest Dec 2013 #230
A better question, do YOU think it is homophobic? Rex Dec 2013 #241
Obviously I don't. woolldog Dec 2013 #263
Then why ask the question? Rex Dec 2013 #269
because I am interested in different points of view. nt woolldog Dec 2013 #279
If you say so. Rex Dec 2013 #281
Do you any fear or contempt for gay men or lesbians. ... spin Dec 2013 #243
One accomplishment of this thread: A-Schwarzenegger Dec 2013 #244
+1 idwiyo Dec 2013 #249
Grave dance appropriate for that one alcibiades_mystery Dec 2013 #286
Maybe. NCTraveler Dec 2013 #247
All that tells me is that you are heterosexual. arthritisR_US Dec 2013 #248
I think it's wonderful. nt woolldog Dec 2013 #266
That being the case, then why would you question arthritisR_US Dec 2013 #273
.... woolldog Dec 2013 #277
I have gay buddies, both male and female. The males arthritisR_US Dec 2013 #295
thoughtful response. woolldog Dec 2013 #296
If you have to ask if you are homophobic, Jamastiene Dec 2013 #260
um, yeah woolldog Dec 2013 #291
Lol. NealK Dec 2013 #297
No it didn't. woolldog Dec 2013 #299
Yeah, sure. NealK Dec 2013 #304
Nope. The point flew right over your head. Jamastiene Dec 2013 #302
Absolutely. NealK Dec 2013 #306
What kind of attitude? woolldog Dec 2013 #307
You really have to ask? NealK Dec 2013 #309
Judging from the question? Probably not, but judging from the posts of yours I've seen over the past LanternWaste Dec 2013 #274
"judging from the posts of yours I've seen over the past week or two" woolldog Dec 2013 #282
That depends on the reason you do not date men AuntPatsy Dec 2013 #276
I appreciate your hypothesis...... Swede Atlanta Dec 2013 #278
WTF are you talking about? That's literally the dumbest question I've ever seen asked on DU. nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #290
+1000! NealK Dec 2013 #298
+100000 Katashi_itto Dec 2013 #303
why'd u rec this thread then? woolldog Dec 2013 #305
For exposure. NealK Dec 2013 #308
If you felt it necessary to post this appropos of nothing, then... Deep13 Dec 2013 #310
Do you believe that transwomen are 'gay man who pretend to be women'? idwiyo Dec 2013 #311
"Do you believe that transwomen are gay man who pretend to be women"? woolldog Dec 2013 #316
You are probably a homophobe Bradical79 Dec 2013 #318
 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
1. wtf? simply creating this Op make me wonder more than what you posted.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 04:40 PM
Dec 2013
 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
3. Probably a response to another thread
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 04:46 PM
Dec 2013

Wherein the question asked whether it's transphobic if a man opts to not date a trans person.

I'm starting to understand why there was a meta forum. Sort of like flypaper for bullshit.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
6. hmmm. k. not following the other threads. thanks. nt
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 04:47 PM
Dec 2013
 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
7. well this thread made me wonder:
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 04:47 PM
Dec 2013
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4245263

If a straight man who doesn't want to date a transexual is transphobic, then by that reasoning a straight man who doesn't want to date men is homophobic, no?
 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
9. thank you for the clarification. nt
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 04:50 PM
Dec 2013
 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
12. you might want to add link to OP. otherwise, this may not go well. nt
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 04:51 PM
Dec 2013

MNBrewer

(8,462 posts)
46. Only if you don't want to date gay men.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 05:23 PM
Dec 2013

Otherwise it makes you a man-hater.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
48. I see a difference there
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 05:25 PM
Dec 2013

The transwoman is a woman, and straight men date women. So that is singling out a group of the larger group which they date. Whereas you are talking about men you wouldn't date and who would not date you anyway. Like lesbians who would not date you are not man haters. They just don't date men.

As to being a homophobe, that depends. I am told I am one because I still supported Obama after he picked Rick Warren to give the invocation at his first inauguration. I am also one for considering other issues at times to be of greater weight at a given moment. It's pretty easy to get classed as a homophobe even if you do support equal rights! On DU that is. Also being a Catholic will qualify you.


 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
312. my phobia used to be that I'd date a woman and she'd end up being
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 06:25 AM
Dec 2013

a transgender. thankfully, I got married and avoided that minefield.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
313. Reminds me of that 80s movie
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 12:24 PM
Dec 2013

That was a big sensation due to a scene where a man finds out the woman he brought to his bedroom is still a man as to genitalia.

 

Blanket Statements

(556 posts)
2. I'd make a joke about your post but
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 04:45 PM
Dec 2013

There are a lot of uptight people, here, that don't have a sense of humor.

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
8. please do.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 04:48 PM
Dec 2013

I have a sense of humor.

 

Blanket Statements

(556 posts)
14. Ehhh...I'm sure you wouldn't be offended
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 04:52 PM
Dec 2013

but a member of the society of the perpetually outraged would be.

I made a joke in the thread you're referring to that was hidden in 5 minutes

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
49. That 'joke' was a homophobic crap that should have gotten your arse kicked off DU.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 05:33 PM
Dec 2013


Whining about that hide and defending it as a 'joke' proves that you are a transphobic bigot.

Link to hidden post if anyone wants to see the proof of your bigotry:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4245291

BainsBane

(57,757 posts)
51. It still might
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 05:36 PM
Dec 2013

Particularly in conjunction with his other hides.

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
54. I sure hope so. It makes me sick to even think that shit can be posted on DU.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 05:38 PM
Dec 2013
 

Blanket Statements

(556 posts)
56. Oh lighten up, Francis
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 05:40 PM
Dec 2013

That's a joke from the movie, stripes

Having a personal preference when dating people doesn't make anyone homophobic or a bigot

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
60. Your 'joke' was insinuation that transwomen are 'fake', not 'real' women. That's homophobic to boot.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 05:46 PM
Dec 2013
 

Blanket Statements

(556 posts)
69. Actually it wasn't ...since body enhancement
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 05:51 PM
Dec 2013

Isn't the sole territory of the transgendered

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
79. Yes it was. You made that statement in a thread about transwomen. It was homophobic to boot.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 06:04 PM
Dec 2013
 

Blanket Statements

(556 posts)
84. Good lord, you clearly live to be offended
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 06:07 PM
Dec 2013

Even when it's pointed out that people other than the transgendered have plastic surgery you try to insist my post only referred to the transgendered

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
88. You clearly think that homophobia is not a big deal. A 'joke'.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 06:09 PM
Dec 2013
 

Blanket Statements

(556 posts)
89. Ohhh, now I'm homophobic because I won't
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 06:11 PM
Dec 2013

Date people who've had plastic surgery?

You probably become offended if the wind blows the wrong way at a given time.

Enjoy yourself

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
94. You insinuated that transwomen are 'fake'. That's why you woudn't date them, according to you.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 06:17 PM
Dec 2013

Pure unadulterated transphobic bigotry.



Keep digging.

 

Blanket Statements

(556 posts)
95. Only if you make believe everyone getting plastic surgery
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 06:18 PM
Dec 2013

Is transgendered

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
99. According to you sex reassignment surgery is the same as plastic surgery. That's homophobic to boot.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 06:27 PM
Dec 2013

You believe that transwomen are 'fake', not 'real' women or you wouldn't even think about posting bigoted shit in a thread about transgender women.

 

Blanket Statements

(556 posts)
101. The fact that both surgeries are changing the natural body
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 06:30 PM
Dec 2013

Should clue you in to their similarities.

Some people just live to be offended

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
107. The fact that you believe that some women are 'fake' because they were born with
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 06:41 PM
Dec 2013

the wrong genitalia and needed to have a corrective surgery is the proof that you are a bigot.

Keep digging.

 

Blanket Statements

(556 posts)
109. If you're offended by the fact that surgeries to create a vagina
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 06:43 PM
Dec 2013

Or rejuvenate it, aren't natural then that's your problem, not mine.

And by natural I don't mean anything but not done by nature itself

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
116. You just openly insinuated that women who are born with wrong genitalia are not 'natural'.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 06:57 PM
Dec 2013

I am disgusted by the fact that you keep posting homophobic crap on DU.

Homophobic bigotry, pure and simple.

 

Blanket Statements

(556 posts)
117. Jaysus...even with the additional explanation
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 06:59 PM
Dec 2013

to avoid confusion you still managed to confuse yourself.


If it's man made it's not natural, that doesn't mean being born with the wrong parts isn't natural

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
128. You posted a homophobic post and it was hidden. Your attempt to dig yourself out of shithole
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 07:14 PM
Dec 2013

you created made it even worse.

Keep digging.

 

Blanket Statements

(556 posts)
131. Neat trick...make a general statement that has no reference to sexuality
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 07:17 PM
Dec 2013

And get called a homophobe

If I wouldn't date one legged Somali pirates would it make me a racist homophobe who hates the handicapped or just a picky dater?

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
140. You posted a homophobic post in a thread about transwomen. Keep digging.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 07:30 PM
Dec 2013
 

Blanket Statements

(556 posts)
142. It was a question about dating transgendered women
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 07:32 PM
Dec 2013

I didn't realize my preference for women with real boobs made me fearful of gay people.

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
145. Keep trying to make an excuse for your homophobic post? Keep digging.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 07:37 PM
Dec 2013
 

Blanket Statements

(556 posts)
147. You keep using that word. I do not think it means
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 07:39 PM
Dec 2013

What you think it means

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
153. There is no difference between transphobia and homophobia. Your hidden post was homophobic.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 07:52 PM
Dec 2013
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homophobia

Homophobia encompasses a range of negative attitudes and feelings toward homosexuality or people who are identified or perceived as being lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender (LGBT). It can be expressed as antipathy, contempt, prejudice, aversion, or hatred, may be based on irrational fear, and is sometimes related to religious beliefs.[1][2][3][4][5][6]
 

Blanket Statements

(556 posts)
155. How do you know it wasn't just anti-woman?
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 07:54 PM
Dec 2013

Doesn't occur to you that I could be gay or bisexual, does it.

cyberswede

(26,117 posts)
170. Are you, in fact, "just" anti-woman?
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 08:40 PM
Dec 2013

You're claiming to be a misogynist rather than a homophobe? That's not actually better, you know.

 

Blanket Statements

(556 posts)
171. Bahahahaha! Unbelievable!!
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 08:42 PM
Dec 2013

I hate plastic surgery... Good god, people

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
180. Jees, I forgot to consider that you might be a gay/bi- male who hates plastic surgery and
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 08:56 PM
Dec 2013

makes statements like 'I don't date women with fake parts' in a threads talking about transwomen.

How silly of me not to consider that possibility.

Keep digging.

RedCappedBandit

(5,514 posts)
240. Some people need plastic surgery. Get the fuck over yourself. nt
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 02:10 PM
Dec 2013

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
172. You are a gay man posting 'I don't date women with fake parts'? I should have considered that?
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 08:47 PM
Dec 2013

Seriously?

One could be a bi- male but that doesn't mean that bi- males can't be homophobic.
One can be a misogynistic bigot AND a homophobic bigot at the same time.

Keep digging.

 

Blanket Statements

(556 posts)
175. Hahahahaha!! Desperate to be offended
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 08:49 PM
Dec 2013

it's how some people live I guess.

The word used was "anyone"

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
192. You posted a homophobic statement is the thread about dating transwomen. It was hidden
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 09:19 PM
Dec 2013

because it was a homophobic post.


Keep digging.

 

Blanket Statements

(556 posts)
194. Hahahahaha!! I'll have to remember the word "anyone"
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 09:22 PM
Dec 2013

exclusively refers to the LGBT community

What does the word "someone" mean? I don't want to offend hobbits with gingivitis or something

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
197. Your hidden post was homophobic. It was not a 'joke'. It was deliberate bigoted insult. Keep digging
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 09:32 PM
Dec 2013
 

Blanket Statements

(556 posts)
198. Is the word "anyone" as insulting as "everyone"
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 09:34 PM
Dec 2013

How about "anybody" who does that offend?

I didn't realize plastic surgery was so close to the hearts of so many

And congrats...you're the first person on my ignore list

I hope that doesn't make me anti whatever...wouldn't want to offend 12 thumbed gnomes with brown eyes or something

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
200. 'fake vaginas' in reference to transwomen is what made your post homophobic. Deal with it.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 09:53 PM
Dec 2013
 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
229. gay and bisexual men are not 'anti woman'.
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 10:59 AM
Dec 2013

To suggest such a thing is extremely tired, old1950's style homophobia, retro ignorance. Not just hateful, but also very dated.

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
167. I read your link, and checked the rest of profile. Am counting the days with you...
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 08:29 PM
Dec 2013

A-Schwarzenegger

(15,812 posts)
121. He won't be here long.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 07:06 PM
Dec 2013

5 hidden posts in less than a month.

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
135. I didn't look at his profile but I am not surprised at all. Hopefully it wouldn't be much longer.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 07:23 PM
Dec 2013

Thanks for the tip.

A-Schwarzenegger

(15,812 posts)
138. Gone for a couple months starting Jan 6, minimum.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 07:28 PM
Dec 2013

This sort, more likely gone for good.

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
143. Of course! Totally forgot about new rules. Thank you for reminding me!
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 07:32 PM
Dec 2013

Definitely something to look forward to.

uppityperson

(116,020 posts)
160. Way. eom
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 08:04 PM
Dec 2013

A-Schwarzenegger

(15,812 posts)
205. 6 hidden now.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 10:04 PM
Dec 2013

His pizza is in the oven.

Ms. Toad

(38,638 posts)
211. And flagged for review.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 10:11 PM
Dec 2013

That likely means quiet at least until the admins return from their holiday break.

uppityperson

(116,020 posts)
212. Excellent, thanks for the good news. Flagged for review, can't post til Admin says he can.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 10:13 PM
Dec 2013

A-Schwarzenegger

(15,812 posts)
214. I bet a pepperoni he's gone for good
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 10:14 PM
Dec 2013

until he stitches a sock together.

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
218. Thank you for great news, missed it. Thank you jurors!
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 10:20 PM
Dec 2013

On the Road

(20,783 posts)
227. So I Guess You Answered the Original Post --
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 10:39 AM
Dec 2013

By that logic, a man not wanting to date or have sex with another man who has had gender-reassignment surgery qualifies as bigotry and homophobic.

Absolutely unbelievable.

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
231. I am assuming you are complitely ignorant so I will explain.
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 11:28 AM
Dec 2013

I will make it very simple:

There are women and man who are born with a genetic conditions that can manifest itself in part as 'wrong' genitalia and/or other issues like lack or over-abundance of specific hormons.

Females with this genetic conditions might have male sexual organs, could lack breast development, etc. In this case SRS can be performed to correct the genitalia problem. Other problems are corrected with hormonal therapy.

These women are no different from women who are born without this genetic condition. They are women, not man. There is no difference between us when it comes to self-identifying as females.

The same applies to males who are born with a genetic condition that manifests itself as 'wrong' genitalia.

To imply that somehow these man and women are 'fake' or 'not natural' is a homophobic bigotry at it's worst. This is no different than saying that gay chose to be gay. It can be excused once, assuming one was completely ignorant on the subject.



On the Road

(20,783 posts)
232. I Am Happy to Refer to Someone as "She"
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 11:37 AM
Dec 2013

as a matter of social convention.

As far as the rest of it, I'm just going to back off because you're personally involved in a way I didn't realize.



idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
234. Do you refer to other women in your life as 'she' just as a matter of social convention?
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 12:15 PM
Dec 2013

Do you even realise how bigoted you sound?

As it comes to me, you assumed that I must be 'one of them man who had their dick cut off', or you wouldn't have wrote what you did.

I am guessing (based on your post) that you simply can not imagine that a 'naturally born' woman will say that she doesn't see any difference between herself and a woman born with a wrong set of sexual organs.

Well, I don't see any difference between myself and a transwoman. We are both naturally born women. To think otherwise is homophobic to boot.

Jamastiene

(38,206 posts)
268. Thank you for your efforts to educate these bigoted posters.
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 05:05 PM
Dec 2013

You have great endurance to be able to deal with them this way. to you and thank you.

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
270. Thank you, you made me blush. :) I don't know how else to deal with this problem.
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 05:29 PM
Dec 2013



cinnabonbon

(860 posts)
287. Thank you
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 07:15 PM
Dec 2013

You did a great job explaining.

Feral Child

(2,086 posts)
284. Very succinct and concise explanation.
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 06:34 PM
Dec 2013

Thank you for the clarification of a somewhat confusing anatomical phenomenon. I had been very confused about these issues until recently, when I took the time to research.

It must be emotionally devastating to be trapped by biology in this way. My absolute respect and support for those that have to deal with the burden. I'm very glad that we've evolved to the point that we can recognize the condition and that medical solutions are possible.


I also absolutely agree with the last paragraph in your post. Most sincerely, thanks for your input.

BainsBane

(57,757 posts)
63. Making a point of publicly displaying those preferences
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 05:47 PM
Dec 2013

in offensive ways and not caring who you offend could very well be interpreted as transphobic or homophobic.

 

Blanket Statements

(556 posts)
73. Thank god I didn't say anything about not liking bleached hair
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 05:53 PM
Dec 2013

Every blond in the world could have had their delicate sensibilities trampled on.

News flash:
Personal preferences in dating partners isn't bigotry

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
83. Insinuating that transwomen are 'fake' is homophobic bigotry. You did just that by posting
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 06:07 PM
Dec 2013

your 'joke' in a thread that was talking about transwomen.

 

Blanket Statements

(556 posts)
86. I didn't say anything about transwomen...I said women
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 06:08 PM
Dec 2013

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
91. You insinuated that transwomen are 'fake' by posting your bigoted shit in a thread about transwomen.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 06:12 PM
Dec 2013

Keep digging.

 

Blanket Statements

(556 posts)
103. Your inference doesn't mean I implied it
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 06:33 PM
Dec 2013

And I certainly didn't say anything about transgendered women vs women that would differentiate the two

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
184. You sure did, that's why your homophobic post was hidden.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 08:59 PM
Dec 2013
 

Blanket Statements

(556 posts)
187. You keep using the wrong word
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 09:01 PM
Dec 2013

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
191. There is no difference between transphobia and homophobia. Your hidden post was homophobic.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 09:15 PM
Dec 2013
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homophobia

Homophobia encompasses a range of negative attitudes and feelings toward homosexuality or people who are identified or perceived as being lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender (LGBT). It can be expressed as antipathy, contempt, prejudice, aversion, or hatred, may be based on irrational fear, and is sometimes related to religious beliefs.


 

Blanket Statements

(556 posts)
193. Hahahahaha! You keep using the wrong word
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 09:19 PM
Dec 2013

all you like

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
195. Homophobia encompasses a range of negative attitudes and feelings toward LGBTQ community.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 09:24 PM
Dec 2013

Your post was clearly homophobic and was hidden. Rightfully so.

Keep digging.

Response to idwiyo (Reply #195)

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
199. Anti-cacophobic means 'against fear of ugliness'. Are you implying that transwomen are cacophobic?
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 09:50 PM
Dec 2013

More precise:

Are you implying that you will not date 'anyone' with 'fake' breasts/vaginas/etc because they are cacophobic and you are against cacophobia?

Inventive. Keep digging.

boston bean

(36,931 posts)
202. well, he already told us the he could be a gay or bisexual man who is anti woman.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 09:56 PM
Dec 2013

I don't think you are too far off... His prior post intimated gay and bisexual men were anti woman.

A-Schwarzenegger

(15,812 posts)
208. Account status: Flagged for review
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 10:07 PM
Dec 2013

boston bean

(36,931 posts)
209. well, at least he's been put on hold for now.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 10:08 PM
Dec 2013

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
210. he is anti-women and 'anti fear of ugliness' gay/bi- male who doesn't date women with 'fake' vaginas
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 10:11 PM
Dec 2013


Yeah. That's it. Or something along those lines.

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
246. Great news! Thank you!
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 03:31 PM
Dec 2013

Texasgal

(17,240 posts)
185. YOU lighten up!
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 09:01 PM
Dec 2013

Your post was a well deserved HIDE!

Disgusting.

Learn from it.

 

Blanket Statements

(556 posts)
188. Hahahaha! I didn't realize plastic surgery was so popular
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 09:03 PM
Dec 2013

Texasgal

(17,240 posts)
221. This had nothing to do with plastic surgery
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 10:31 PM
Dec 2013

and you know it.

Take your hide and learn from it. It's offensive period.

Ms. Toad

(38,638 posts)
203. Having a personal preference, not necessarily,
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 10:00 PM
Dec 2013

But crassly describing gender reassignment surgery as being fake - which is literally, for many trans* women, life saving surgery - is bigoted and offensive. That you don't understand it - and are still defending it - is even more troubling that that you said it in the first place, from my perspective.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
174. We won't have to hear from him for 3 months given the
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 08:49 PM
Dec 2013

rules that go into effect post January 6th.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
182. Good! K&R! n/t
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 08:57 PM
Dec 2013

Ms. Toad

(38,638 posts)
215. If he survives the review,
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 10:14 PM
Dec 2013

It will be 3 months from Dec 15 (the date the 5th post was hidden) - so closer to 2 months. Once that post drops off the transparency page, he can post again. Assuming he is still with us.

 

Blanket Statements

(556 posts)
52. I didn't realize fake teeth and fake hair
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 05:37 PM
Dec 2013

Was part of the process.

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
58. That wasn't all you said. Go ahead, repeat and defend the rest of it too.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 05:43 PM
Dec 2013
 

Blanket Statements

(556 posts)
59. Do only the transgendered get boob jobs?
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 05:45 PM
Dec 2013

And there are women who get vaginal reconstruction because of vanity too


Perhaps if you took some time to think about what's being said you might not be so easily offended

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
65. Keep digging. Your post was, and still is a homophobic bigoted crap.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 05:49 PM
Dec 2013
 

Blanket Statements

(556 posts)
67. Only to people who think plastic surgery
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 05:50 PM
Dec 2013

Is performed on the transgendered

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
78. According to your statement transwomen are 'fake'. You obviously think that sex reassignment surgery is
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 06:01 PM
Dec 2013

nothing more than plastic surgery. Bigotry pure and simple.

 

Blanket Statements

(556 posts)
80. Of course...because there's no possible way
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 06:05 PM
Dec 2013

Woman would get plastic surgery unless she had been born a man.

In spite of the fact that we have a booming plastic surgery industry used by millions of people who aren't changing their sex you decided it had to be ONLY about the transgendered.

BainsBane

(57,757 posts)
72. You also said fake vaginas.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 05:53 PM
Dec 2013

It's pretty clear who that applies to.

 

Blanket Statements

(556 posts)
74. Never heard of vaginal reconstruction?
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 05:54 PM
Dec 2013

You should read more


Vaginal rejuvenation is the other name it goes by

BainsBane

(57,757 posts)
76. Keep it up
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 05:57 PM
Dec 2013

You're really convincing. Here's a word of advice. When you make a mistake, reflect on it, admit it, and move on. Don't dig deeper. Your post was in a thread on transgendered people. Everyone knew what you were saying which is why it was hidden. You've gotten away with a lot since you've joined because you've gone after feminists, who are an easy target around here. I think you'll find far less tolerance for this type of behavior.

 

Blanket Statements

(556 posts)
77. I didn't make a mistake unless it was assuming
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 06:00 PM
Dec 2013

Most people were aware of the booming plastic surgery industry used by a lot of women in this country

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
105. You clearly believe that sex reassignment surgery is the same as plastic surgery.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 06:34 PM
Dec 2013

According to you people have plastic surgery is to create things like 'fake' breasts, and 'fake' vaginas. Hence according to you transwomen are 'fake' because they had 'plastic surgery'.

Homophobia at it's worst.

Keep digging.

 

Blanket Statements

(556 posts)
106. Hahahahaha! You're going to just make up things
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 06:36 PM
Dec 2013

I didn't say so you can be offended.

I get it

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
110. Keep digging. There is no excuse for homophobia. It's sick, ans so was your original post.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 06:50 PM
Dec 2013

You made it worse by trying to backpedal.

 

Blanket Statements

(556 posts)
111. I didn't backpedal from anything. I made a joke
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 06:52 PM
Dec 2013

Some people are too overly sensitive to get it.

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
119. You posted a homophobic statement and it was hidden. It was not a 'joke'.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 07:03 PM
Dec 2013

It was and is a homophobic statement.

 

Blanket Statements

(556 posts)
122. I made no reference to anyone's sexuality
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 07:07 PM
Dec 2013

Sooo how could it be homophobic?

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
132. You did. Starting with your hidden homophobic post.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 07:20 PM
Dec 2013
 

Blanket Statements

(556 posts)
134. Bahahahha...I guess the word "anyone"
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 07:21 PM
Dec 2013

Means something different to you

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
137. Your purely homophobic post in a thread about transgender women told me all I need to know.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 07:25 PM
Dec 2013
 

Blanket Statements

(556 posts)
141. Calling me a homophobe doesn't make me homophobic
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 07:30 PM
Dec 2013

Neither does not dating women with fake boobs

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
148. Posting homophobic statements does make one a homophobe. Keep digging.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 07:40 PM
Dec 2013
 

Blanket Statements

(556 posts)
149. I made no such statements
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 07:41 PM
Dec 2013

uppityperson

(116,020 posts)
161. Maybe not "statements" but "statement" for sure.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 08:05 PM
Dec 2013
 

Blanket Statements

(556 posts)
162. Nope
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 08:06 PM
Dec 2013
 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
239. Evidently the admins thought it over and
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 02:09 PM
Dec 2013
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=310167&sub=trans

declared you a bigoted troll...please don't come back. Ever.
 

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,848 posts)
314. About damn time too. I called it withinn the first 10 posts. nt
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 12:26 PM
Dec 2013
 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
315. Same here, that username alone made me think
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 01:35 PM
Dec 2013

it was a troll and of course they proved it within the first minute of being on DU.

 

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,848 posts)
317. I know right? When you come out right away talking about "you people are
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 08:43 PM
Dec 2013

so easily offended". It's definitely trollish.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
87. Sidestep until the cows come home.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 06:08 PM
Dec 2013

Fake teeth, fake hair, fake boobs and fake VAGINA in a thread about transgendered women.....doesn't take a fucking Einstein to figure out what you were saying.

Now had you simply said that you didn't think you would want to date a transgendered woman- without your 'joke' -people wouldn't be jumping your shit right now.

 

Blanket Statements

(556 posts)
90. Oh lord...you guys really need to think before you react
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 06:12 PM
Dec 2013

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
92. Oh lord - you really need to think.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 06:14 PM
Dec 2013
 

Blanket Statements

(556 posts)
93. Clearly I put more thought into my post than you did
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 06:16 PM
Dec 2013

In understanding it

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
96. lol!
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 06:21 PM
Dec 2013

Whatever you say, dearie.

 

Blanket Statements

(556 posts)
97. I know the word "anyone" is confusing
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 06:23 PM
Dec 2013

Especially when you try and twist it to mean a specific group

Ms. Toad

(38,638 posts)
201. .
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 09:54 PM
Dec 2013
As jaded as I am about this place ever being free of pretty blatant transphobia, I'm still surprised that was not an immediate PPR.

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
213. He has more than 100 posts, hopefully admin will get rid of him when new rules kick in.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 10:13 PM
Dec 2013

Ms. Toad

(38,638 posts)
216. But he is now flagged for review.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 10:15 PM
Dec 2013

At least that will keep him quiet until they return to the boards after their holiday breaks.

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
217. Thanks gawd for that. I was getting really sick reading all the shit he posted. Thank you, jury!
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 10:18 PM
Dec 2013


Zorra

(27,670 posts)
219. Jury results
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 10:25 PM
Dec 2013

Sun Dec 29, 2013, 05:46 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

The word you should be using is anticacophobia
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4248197

REASON FOR ALERT:

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS:

this guy is trolling this entire thread. cacophobia is a fear of ugly people, not sure what the anti is for. but please read his postings. mirt needs to see this. he also implied above the gay and bisexual males were anti women.

JURY RESULTS

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sun Dec 29, 2013, 05:57 PM, and the Jury voted 4-2 to HIDE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: Given his/her high post number, I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt and consider this an attempt at satire.
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT and said: Jeopardy for $500 - What is TRIM spelled backwards?
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: I don't see any reason to hide the post, so I vote KEEP IT.
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT and said: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT and said: After reading many of the earlier posts by this person, it seems clear that he signed up with the purpose of being disruptive. Send this one on to Skinner and let the Administrators deal with him. BS has been here a month too long already.
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT and said: Troll!!!

A-Schwarzenegger

(15,812 posts)
220. "BS has been here a month too long already."
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 10:29 PM
Dec 2013

Hadn't noticed the initials.

Ms. Toad

(38,638 posts)
222. Good to see the jury gave this poster a much needed time-out.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 10:32 PM
Dec 2013

At a minimum until the admins are back from their holiday breaks, since this hide triggered the automatic "flagged for review."

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
237. That one is gone, a banned troll now.
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 02:02 PM
Dec 2013

Looks like someone was paying attention.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
238. Thanks!
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 02:06 PM
Dec 2013
 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
112. I just read the post and I do not find it funny at all.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 06:52 PM
Dec 2013
 

Blanket Statements

(556 posts)
114. I'm not surprised by your post at all
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 06:54 PM
Dec 2013

A lot of people have no sense of humor due to oversensitivity

If I said I wouldn't date a one legged Somali pirate, there would be someone who claimed I hated handicapped black men

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
115. your joke was disgusting and will be remembered.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 06:56 PM
Dec 2013
 

Blanket Statements

(556 posts)
118. Some can think about it
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 07:01 PM
Dec 2013

When they feel need to be outraged for no reason at all

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
120. I am not one of those people. I have a sense of humor and I found no humor in what you posted.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 07:04 PM
Dec 2013

It will be remembered and addressed. Behave!

 

Blanket Statements

(556 posts)
123. Eh..
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 07:09 PM
Dec 2013
 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
124. just behave.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 07:10 PM
Dec 2013
 

Blanket Statements

(556 posts)
126. Okay. I really wasn't trying to offend anyone
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 07:12 PM
Dec 2013

It really was a joke

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
129. ok fair enough. Please say no such things again.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 07:15 PM
Dec 2013

uppityperson

(116,020 posts)
127. "REMINDER AND UPDATE: Five hidden posts and you can't post"= Flameout?
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 07:14 PM
Dec 2013
If you have five hidden posts on your account you will be unable to post.
... If you have five hidden posts showing on your Transparency page (a 90-day period), then you will be temporarily unable to post. In order to regain your ability to post, you will need to wait until the oldest post of the five is more than 90 days old and "falls off" of your record. At that point you will only have four posts showing on your Transparency page, and you will regain your ability to post.

Due to a fluke of scheduling, that new policy was supposed to go into effect on December 25, Christmas Day. However, because the DU Administrators do not wish to spend our holiday break fixing the inevitable bugs, we have decided to push back the launch date.

The new launch date is Monday January 6, 2014.


So as of Jan 6, you will not be able to post until March 3? Is this a flameout now, going out in a flame of "glory"?
 

Blanket Statements

(556 posts)
133. I can't help what's alerted on or the vote of the jury
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 07:20 PM
Dec 2013

I make posts and there are people who get offended.
I've seen posts far worse than what I've made allowed to stand...it doesn't make my transgressions worse.

uppityperson

(116,020 posts)
136. You can't help what's alerted on or voted to be hidden? Seriously?You can't help posting nasty stuff
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 07:25 PM
Dec 2013

and here posting numerous times defending that nasty statement? You can't help yourself? Oh.

Rather than understanding the offensiveness and apologizing, someone is holding your hands to the keyboard making you continue to defend it as well as write it in the first place. Gotcha.

As I said, flameout.

 

Blanket Statements

(556 posts)
139. I didn't realize the only people who had plastic surgery
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 07:29 PM
Dec 2013

Were the transgendered...

uppityperson

(116,020 posts)
144. I didn't realize that someone is forcing you to write nasty stuff and continue to defend it. Shall I
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 07:36 PM
Dec 2013

call the police for you?

 

Blanket Statements

(556 posts)
146. Whatever
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 07:38 PM
Dec 2013

Some people live to be offended

uppityperson

(116,020 posts)
157. And some live to be offensive
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 08:01 PM
Dec 2013
 

Blanket Statements

(556 posts)
158. I can't help how you interpret things
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 08:02 PM
Dec 2013

uppityperson

(116,020 posts)
159. You can help how you post offensive things though. Or wait, is that person still holding you hostage
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 08:04 PM
Dec 2013

forcing you to defend what was offensive rather than simply saying "I am sorry"? What was your address again as the police will want it?

 

Blanket Statements

(556 posts)
163. I will not apologize for your interpretation
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 08:09 PM
Dec 2013

I made a joke.

Besides, I can't be homophobic...some of my best friends are people

uppityperson

(116,020 posts)
164. You won't apologize for being offensive. Yeah yeah yeah. We get it. Goodbye.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 08:13 PM
Dec 2013
 

Blanket Statements

(556 posts)
165. I won't apologize for your interpretations
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 08:15 PM
Dec 2013
 

Jester Messiah

(4,711 posts)
181. Just put 'em on ignore.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 08:57 PM
Dec 2013

The outrage brigade thrives on attention. Deny it and they buzz off. One thing the past week or so has been excellent for is getting the eternally humorless to self-identify.

 

Blanket Statements

(556 posts)
189. Thanks for the advice. Probably a good idea
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 09:04 PM
Dec 2013
 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
224. Why am I not surprised you are defending
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 09:34 AM
Dec 2013

Last edited Mon Dec 30, 2013, 12:07 PM - Edit history (1)

this flagged for review troll.




Update: PPR'd troll.


 

Jester Messiah

(4,711 posts)
242. Same reason I'm not surprised to find you attacking.
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 02:23 PM
Dec 2013

Perhaps you should be flagged for review as well.

 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
271. Indeed.
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 05:35 PM
Dec 2013

Good luck with that.



idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
250. Pardon me if I don't find homophobic bigotry funny. Do you think his post was a funny 'joke'?
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 03:40 PM
Dec 2013
 

Jester Messiah

(4,711 posts)
251. I'm sure it was an utter outrage.
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 04:07 PM
Dec 2013

Of course, I didn't see it myself, but I am assured that nothing is funny, ever. This is my face of utmost gravity. >:-|

Edit: *plonk*

A-Schwarzenegger

(15,812 posts)
252. Well, it's good to see that somebody has picked up the fallen torch
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 04:21 PM
Dec 2013

of a banned bigoted troll.

 

Jester Messiah

(4,711 posts)
253. I was thinking of putting it up on e-bay.
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 04:34 PM
Dec 2013

But I don't think I can find a buyer. Honestly, who uses torches in this day and age? I might just drop it off at the Goodwill.

A-Schwarzenegger

(15,812 posts)
254. No, keep it, it looks good with your pitchfork.
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 04:37 PM
Dec 2013
 

Jester Messiah

(4,711 posts)
255. Why thank you!
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 04:40 PM
Dec 2013

Pitchfork selection is a such a tedious affair, but one must choose carefully in order that it complement the ensemble, yet not dominate it!

A-Schwarzenegger

(15,812 posts)
256. I'd say the torch pretty much dominates your outfit.
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 04:41 PM
Dec 2013
 

Jester Messiah

(4,711 posts)
258. Would you?
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 04:47 PM
Dec 2013

I thought it touched up my devil-may-care attitude and tendency to lampoon those who take themselves too seriously. Ah well, can't win 'em all. I suppose it's true, absolutely nothing is funny, ever. I shall try to adopt an appropriately grave mien.

A-Schwarzenegger

(15,812 posts)
259. There are a lot of options between
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 04:50 PM
Dec 2013

"nothing is funny, ever"
&
"everything is a big fucking joke."

 

Jester Messiah

(4,711 posts)
261. Are there?
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 04:53 PM
Dec 2013

Well, we're just spoiled for choice!

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
257. "I am assured that nothing is funny, ever." Is that what you think? Homophobia can be funny?
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 04:45 PM
Dec 2013

BTW, We both know you didn't put me on ignore.

Just in case you delete your post:

Jester Messiah
251. I'm sure it was an utter outrage.
Of course, I didn't see it myself, but I am assured that nothing is funny, ever. This is my face of utmost gravity. >:-|

Edit: *plonk*

A-Schwarzenegger

(15,812 posts)
272. Guy's hidden posts are of a pattern.
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 05:43 PM
Dec 2013
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
262. I've noticed an odd correlation... those who often use the petulance term 'outrage brigade
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 04:56 PM
Dec 2013

I've noticed an odd correlation... those who often use the petulance term 'outrage brigade' are often the ones who rationalize the irrational, and defend both vulgarity and intolerance merely as wit.

Though I'm sure you would allege otherwise, and further justify your own use of it as both mature and sincere.

 

Jester Messiah

(4,711 posts)
265. That -is- odd.
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 05:00 PM
Dec 2013

Though another supposition would be that the "outrage brigade" merely derive satisfaction from being outraged and need a good lampooning every now and again. But let us cogitate upon this, for I purport to be naught but mature and sincere at all times!

Amaril

(1,267 posts)
275. But, that in turn.......
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 05:55 PM
Dec 2013

......begs the question of who truly comprise the "outrage brigade"............

a) Those who find blatantly racist/sexist/homophobic "jokes" to be offensive, or

b) Those who are offended that someone is offended by something offensive?

Cogitate on that for a bit.

 

Jester Messiah

(4,711 posts)
283. Meh. [nt]
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 06:31 PM
Dec 2013
 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
280. Your joke was a transphobic piece of shit.
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 06:10 PM
Dec 2013

But no, go ahead and double down and play the victim.

ETA: Or don't. Too bad, so sad.

Shankapotomus

(4,840 posts)
17. I'd joke about it too
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 04:58 PM
Dec 2013

But so much of my own humor depends on sounding absolutely serious. People would blow a gasket.

 

Blanket Statements

(556 posts)
20. I'm outraged by your admission
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 05:02 PM
Dec 2013

Not really

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
24. well I never!
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 05:05 PM
Dec 2013

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
233. I imagine "uptight" is quite often used
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 11:51 AM
Dec 2013

I imagine "uptight" is quite often used in order to better validate and justify our vulgarity, our disrespect, and our petulance to others.


(Insert rationalization here)

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
300. As usual, LW is on point...
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 08:30 PM
Dec 2013
 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
4. Huh?
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 04:46 PM
Dec 2013


Do you hate gay people? Do you support discrimination against them? Do you believe their love is the same as fucking an armadillo?

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
5. ...
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 04:46 PM
Dec 2013

Last edited Sun Dec 29, 2013, 05:22 PM - Edit history (1)

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
10. The parallel you draw is similar to the other thread
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 04:50 PM
Dec 2013

about men being transphobic if they won't date trans people.

To me it doesn't matter whether it's race, sexual orientation, tattoos or hair color, you can't be held accountable for a subconscious desire.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
11. Am I phobic for not dating people I'm not attracted to?
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 04:50 PM
Dec 2013

Gee, I kind of thought the whole part of dating was getting to know someone that you are attracted to, and can form a bond with. If a White/Black/Straight/Bi/Trans/Gay person isn't doing it for you, it probably has nothing to do with those factors. It probably has to do with the fact that you aren't attracted to them.

Let's not over think this, folks.

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
13. This thread is a really bad idea
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 04:52 PM
Dec 2013

Whatever you are thinking or what your intentions are, it looks really bad and will rightfully offend a lot of people here. I strongly recommend a self delete.

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
16. ugh
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 04:57 PM
Dec 2013

too many people on DU actively looking for things to be offended by.

 

Blanket Statements

(556 posts)
22. Yep
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 05:03 PM
Dec 2013

Iggo

(49,927 posts)
28. Too many actively looking to offend people, too.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 05:11 PM
Dec 2013

So there you go.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
301. Yup. Takes two to tango, or insert other expression assholes like to use... n/t
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 08:33 PM
Dec 2013

boston bean

(36,931 posts)
35. Seems as though that you were offended, no?
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 05:14 PM
Dec 2013
 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
43. Honestly?
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 05:21 PM
Dec 2013

No. Bemused is more like it.

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
39. Or, they have good reason to be.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 05:16 PM
Dec 2013

Many people have to live their lives dealing with stupid shit like your OP. They come to DU expecting not to have to deal with it here. It's a reasonable expectation.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
264. Much as there are too many people on DU actively attempting and defending things that are intended t
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 04:58 PM
Dec 2013

Much as there are too many people on DU actively attempting and defending things that are intended to be offensive.

Six of one, half a dozen of the other (insert distinction without a difference here)

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
19. The other thread was just as bad
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 04:59 PM
Dec 2013

if not worse. It feels like shaming people that won't date them because of whatever perceived "hangup" or identity they have, instead of the fact that not everyone is going to want to be with everyone that is attracted to them. It's not racist to not be attracted to every Tom, Dick and Melinda that comes on to you, nor is it homophobic to not be attracted to every Tracy, Willie and Shannon that hist on you, either.

You are attracted to what you are attracted to. If the person you are chasing doesn't find you to be in that category, well, stay calm. It might not be your race, sexuality, or even your looks. You might just have an awful personality. Feel better?

Edit: Didn't mean this for you Pinto bean. Replied in the wrong place. Meant to reply to the comment under yours.

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
23. I figured that out - your edit
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 05:05 PM
Dec 2013

I didn't go into that other thread, based on the title. Obvious flame bait.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
40. I didn't post in it either
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 05:17 PM
Dec 2013

I just peeped in there and left.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
64. Agreed. That thread is idiocy incarnate.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 05:47 PM
Dec 2013

I only refrained from commenting in it because I wanted to make sure I was jury-eligible.

Niceguy1

(2,467 posts)
108. the op is doing
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 06:42 PM
Dec 2013

His duty by giving the perpetually offended something to ne offended about...taking onefor the team.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
15. You made your point there
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 04:56 PM
Dec 2013

Why make a new thread about it?

Are we going to see a dozen threads now about race, religion, sex, etc etc

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
179. It appears
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 08:53 PM
Dec 2013

that the holidays have left some with little to do but stir the pot. Now I don't particularly stir that pot, I just go ahead and flush it because I don't like to let it hang around, but some like to stir in it.

Then they wonder why they can't get dates.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
18. Not sure, but you DO sound like an asshole.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 04:58 PM
Dec 2013
 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
21. how so?
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 05:02 PM
Dec 2013
 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
25. You are making light of serious matters
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 05:07 PM
Dec 2013

which other DU members are saying offend them.

In other words, you are basically coming here to a progressive, liberal board and telling us all to get over it, which - as a smug presumably heterosexual (white?) male - is easy for you to say.

I don't appreciate the obvious asshole-ishness of why you were motivated to start this thread - this is not 4chan or Free Republic.

Response to closeupready (Reply #25)

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
30. Here 4 years and doesn't get that.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 05:12 PM
Dec 2013

I don't think he ever will.

The jury went 0-6 on the OP. I wasn't the first alerter, so I don't have any comments.

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
34. what are other DU members saying offends them?
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 05:13 PM
Dec 2013

huh? it's hard to keep track these days...

 

Blanket Statements

(556 posts)
41. Hahahaha!
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 05:19 PM
Dec 2013

I see that feminists are now making themselves the victims of your post

Iggo

(49,927 posts)
26. Unrec.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 05:09 PM
Dec 2013

BainsBane

(57,757 posts)
29. The one benefit of this OP
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 05:12 PM
Dec 2013

Is that we can see the poutrage goes beyond objections to feminism.

boston bean

(36,931 posts)
32. Exactly!
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 05:13 PM
Dec 2013

BainsBane

(57,757 posts)
37. How does the saying go?
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 05:15 PM
Dec 2013

They came for the radical feminists, but I wasn't a radical feminist, they came for the feminists, but I wasn't a feminist, they came for the LBGT people, but I wasn't LGBT . . . . .

boston bean

(36,931 posts)
45. We've had Paglia, Dilbert, now this...
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 05:23 PM
Dec 2013

showing the cards.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
33. Yes. This x 1000. Very, very clear.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 05:13 PM
Dec 2013

Squinch

(59,522 posts)
102. It's a movement!
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 06:31 PM
Dec 2013

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
31. Why, oh why?
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 05:12 PM
Dec 2013

aikoaiko

(34,214 posts)
98. Why oh why must it be this way...
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 06:23 PM
Dec 2013



...Before you can read me you gotta learn how to see me, I said
Free your mind and the rest will follow
Be color blind, don't be so shallow.
Free your mind and the rest will follow
Be color blind, don't be so shallow


You set off a earworm in me.
 

Shandris

(3,447 posts)
36. No, you're just a person who can't tell the difference between...
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 05:15 PM
Dec 2013

...not dating someone you would otherwise be attracted to purely and solely because of genitalia, and not dating someone you wouldn't be attracted to in the first place.

Completely understandable, getting the two confused. I know I have difficulty telling the difference between 'like, but am going to reject for the hell of it' and 'dont like at all'. They're SO similar, after all.

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
38. A serious question
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 05:16 PM
Dec 2013

What would the motivation behind a post like this be?

 

Shandris

(3,447 posts)
42. Purely conjecture (but educated conjecture), but I think its...
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 05:20 PM
Dec 2013

...to repost something that another poster put in the Transphobic thread. Apparently it needed repeating for those of us who weren't edified the first time.

Again, that's my interpretation though.

ismnotwasm

(42,674 posts)
44. And in the trash it goes
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 05:22 PM
Dec 2013
 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
47. This post was tacky. n-t
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 05:24 PM
Dec 2013

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
50. Are you trying to imply that transwomen are not 'real' women?
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 05:35 PM
Dec 2013

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
61. I believe that the hidden
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 05:46 PM
Dec 2013

'joke' came right out with that charming sentiment.

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
68. So do I. The OP of course will either ignore the question or run.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 05:50 PM
Dec 2013

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
166. You didn't answer my question. Your link is the reason why I asked you this specific question.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 08:15 PM
Dec 2013

I am trying to figure where you stand.

Do you understand that there is no difference between me, a woman who was born with all female parts present, and a woman who was born with genetic problem that manifested itself in part as wrong genitalia? We are women, both of us. Both are naturally born women. One of us has a genetic problem that requires hormonal treatments and corrective surgery. That's the only difference between us. Nothing else.

If that is what you believe, than why the hell would you draw a parallel between dating a woman and dating a gay man?

 

scheming daemons

(25,487 posts)
225. well there is one other difference...
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 09:49 AM
Dec 2013

... someone may want to only date women who can procreate because of a desire to father children with his partner. That is one case where a man may not wish to have a relationship with a transgender female or other female that is not fertile.

A dating preference is not bigotry.

I have no opinion on the other thread, because I haven't read it.

But having a belief that someone is -phobic because of who they are attracted to or who they want to date is ridiculous.

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
228. Any woman you date might be infertile. You take your chances.
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 10:49 AM
Dec 2013

There are things like surrogacy if you absolutely must have your own genetic replicant.

Are you asking any of your potential dates for the proof of fertility before you even take them on the date?

 

scheming daemons

(25,487 posts)
236. no...
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 02:00 PM
Dec 2013

But if a man decides to end a relationship when he finds out the woman he is dating is transgender or infertile, it doesn't make him a bigot.

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
293. If he ends the relationship only because he thinks that trans- means she is not a 'real' woman is
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 07:54 PM
Dec 2013

a bigot.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
53. As a gay man I do not get you question.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 05:38 PM
Dec 2013

Tobin S.

(10,420 posts)
57. Here's my interpretation
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 05:42 PM
Dec 2013

The OP seems to be implying that just being a straight male makes you homophobic in the eyes of some of the homosexual people here. The question was rhetorical and sardonic.

 

NoOneMan

(4,795 posts)
62. That's not it at all
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 05:47 PM
Dec 2013

There is another OP that suggest those who will not date transgender people are Transphobic.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
66. thanks. I admit to be afraid of some straight guys but that does not mske them homophobic at all.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 05:49 PM
Dec 2013

It is my issue.

Tobin S.

(10,420 posts)
75. 10-4
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 05:55 PM
Dec 2013

I am a large, masculine, straight male and I notice that I have that effect on some gay men. I do not take that personally and I try to make them feel comfortable. My wife and I have a lot of gay acquaintances.

I think it might go back to men who may have a similar appearance and mannerisms as I do being abusive to our gay friends in the past. I would feel a little unnerved by a person who looked like that as well.

 

Soundman

(297 posts)
82. Could you elaborate a little please?
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 06:06 PM
Dec 2013

That is an interesting statement.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
223. I get afraid sometimes that some men do not like gay guys and will get violent.
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 09:23 AM
Dec 2013

Feral Child

(2,086 posts)
292. That's a reasonable fear.
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 07:54 PM
Dec 2013

Homophobes can be violent and aggressive whilst asserting their masculinity.

I'm a straight guy. I've been hit on by gay men. I was never offended by it, and certainly didn't feel threatened. I assumed it was a compliment and treated it as such.

None of the gay men I knew were aggressive or creepy about their interest nor did they consider my (polite) rejection to be offensive.

I'm sorry you have to feel unsafe and hope you haven't had any bad experiences.

Prophet 451

(9,796 posts)
55. In itself, no
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 05:40 PM
Dec 2013

If you're only attracted to girls, that's fine, that's just how you're wired.

What would make you a homophobe (or not) is how you treat people who are gay and how you vote on issues that affect them.

 

loli phabay

(5,580 posts)
70. nope, we all are attracted to different sorts, does not mean its bigoted
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 05:52 PM
Dec 2013
 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
71. You're clearly guilty of something.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 05:52 PM
Dec 2013

Probably many things.

Better apologize now, before all Hell breaks loose.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
81. Yep.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 06:06 PM
Dec 2013

If you don't know otherwise, and have to ask, or are worried you might be... I'd say... YEP.

Kurska

(5,739 posts)
85. If you're referencing something maybe you should include a link
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 06:08 PM
Dec 2013

Because without any context this makes you look like a raging a-hole.

Even with context it isn't that funny.

Squinch

(59,522 posts)
100. Trashing.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 06:29 PM
Dec 2013

JI7

(93,616 posts)
104. you asking that question makes me believe you are a homophobic
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 06:34 PM
Dec 2013
 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
125. Yes, part. in light of all the follow-up 'clarifications'
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 07:10 PM
Dec 2013

he's posted. So I think in that light, yes, he is a huge homophobe.

 

Vashta Nerada

(3,922 posts)
113. Of course not.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 06:53 PM
Dec 2013

Stupid, pointless, divisive thread.

Trash.

liberalmuse

(18,881 posts)
130. The fact that you've posted just to ask this question...
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 07:16 PM
Dec 2013

...kind of indicates that you are. Men secure in their own sexuality don't lament about this issue.

Shankapotomus

(4,840 posts)
150. My sources say
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 07:42 PM
Dec 2013

Skittles

(171,713 posts)
152. no, not homophobic
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 07:46 PM
Dec 2013

but asking this stupid question certainly makes you moronic

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
154. good one
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 07:52 PM
Dec 2013

Skittles

(171,713 posts)
168. not a joke
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 08:37 PM
Dec 2013

a FACT

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
173. it's your opinion.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 08:47 PM
Dec 2013

and one that I don't care a whit about, except to the extent that it amuses me.

Skittles

(171,713 posts)
178. if you didn't care you would not be here whining
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 08:53 PM
Dec 2013

DONE HERE

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
186. lol
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 09:01 PM
Dec 2013

yep I'm whining.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
285. People suffer from lifelong discrimination, but not to worry, woolldog is both amused and bemused
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 06:52 PM
Dec 2013

Totally cool, as it were - nothing but a little light laughter, ha ha, look at the (insert group here) with their silly little outrages!

"Hey, guys, bros, check out these (insert plural epithet here). They've all got their panties in a bunch." Ha ha ha. "Oh, I'm gonna make 'em howl now. Watch this, bros!"

Ha.

Ha.

Ha.

Nice guy, this woolldog.

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
288. where did I say I was amused?
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 07:42 PM
Dec 2013

I said I was bemused by that thread (namely, the idea that not dating a transperson makes one transphobic), which is very different than "amused"

I'm also not making fun of anyone or any group. Anyone who believes that either hasn't read my posts or is projecting a lot of "stuff" onto them.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
235. More than simply Skittle's opinion... it's shared.
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 12:21 PM
Dec 2013

More than simply Skittle's opinion... it's shared. Regardless of whether we petulantly trivialize those opinions by calling them amusing or actually examine.

JanMichael

(25,725 posts)
169. I don't think she was making a joke
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 08:39 PM
Dec 2013

you sound like a jerk, frankly. It's a stupid question.

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
176. you're certainly entitled to your opinion, Jan.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 08:51 PM
Dec 2013

Personally I've found the responses to my question informative. And I've learned a lot.

Remember, there's no such thing as a stupid question.

JanMichael

(25,725 posts)
183. yes there is. Your kindergarten
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 08:59 PM
Dec 2013

teacher was lying to you. Grow up.

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
190. No. No way
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 09:11 PM
Dec 2013

was Miss Reilly lying to me.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
177. What a silly post! n/t
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 08:53 PM
Dec 2013

Skip Intro

(19,768 posts)
204. I think I get it.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 10:03 PM
Dec 2013

Somewhere down the line here you happened upon an argument that seemed to imply that if you are straight, you are homophobic, or worse. Is that right? Did that happen?

I've seen people declare that if you don't date a person of a different race, you are racist.

I've seen people declare that a rape suspect should be presumed guilty.

I've seen people declare that white people are automatically racist. The irony of their accusations was lost on them.

Am I close? Is your OP a reaction to an extreme accusation directed toward you, or one that you witnessed? Strongly implied, probably, rather than stated bluntly?

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
289. yes.
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 07:47 PM
Dec 2013

but nothing directed at me personally. I was taking the logic of an OP I read and applying it in a different context.

 

jessie04

(1,528 posts)
206. I'll bet you didn't expect over 200 replies.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 10:06 PM
Dec 2013
 

scheming daemons

(25,487 posts)
226. 150 of the replies are the same two people going back and forth
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 09:51 AM
Dec 2013


 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
267. I certainly didn't anticipate this post being so controversial. nt
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 05:04 PM
Dec 2013

Feral Child

(2,086 posts)
294. Perhaps it's because you're insensitive
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 07:59 PM
Dec 2013

and lack any empathy whatsoever.

Or perhaps merely disingenuous.

In either case, you should post an apology to the community and delete your OP.

Seriously, this is extremely offensive.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
207. That means roughly 90-something percent of everyone on Earth is a homophobe, then.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 10:07 PM
Dec 2013
 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
230. Your question is a daft and redundant thing which answers itself.
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 11:12 AM
Dec 2013

A straight man is a man who does not date men, but women. Thus, if you dated men you'd not be a straight man. Mutually exclusive. If you date men, you are gay or bisexual. Thus if you are straight, which is your contention, then of course you date only women and not men.
So your homophobia is something only you'd know about, it's an inner thing, your actions however are more idiotic and strained, lacking in basic language skills or affecting that lack as a way to make a daft, redundant and utterly stupid question. What your motives are I don't know. The actions are self defining.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
241. A better question, do YOU think it is homophobic?
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 02:12 PM
Dec 2013

To be a straight male that doesn't date other males? No doubt I will get no answer or elaboration by the OP.

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
263. Obviously I don't.
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 04:58 PM
Dec 2013

That was the point.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
269. Then why ask the question?
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 05:27 PM
Dec 2013

If you know the answer, what does it mean to ask a question you already know the answer to?

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
279. because I am interested in different points of view. nt
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 06:09 PM
Dec 2013
 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
281. If you say so.
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 06:11 PM
Dec 2013

nt.

spin

(17,493 posts)
243. Do you any fear or contempt for gay men or lesbians. ...
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 02:56 PM
Dec 2013

If not, you are not a homophobe.

A-Schwarzenegger

(15,812 posts)
244. One accomplishment of this thread:
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 03:20 PM
Dec 2013

Brought this bigoted troll out of the woodwork:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=310167&sub=trans

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
249. +1
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 03:36 PM
Dec 2013
 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
286. Grave dance appropriate for that one
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 06:55 PM
Dec 2013
 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
247. Maybe.
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 03:35 PM
Dec 2013

Not enough information to go on there.

arthritisR_US

(7,810 posts)
248. All that tells me is that you are heterosexual.
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 03:35 PM
Dec 2013

What is your attitude about people of the same sex dating and/or marrying or living together common law?

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
266. I think it's wonderful. nt
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 05:00 PM
Dec 2013

arthritisR_US

(7,810 posts)
273. That being the case, then why would you question
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 05:48 PM
Dec 2013

if you are a homophobe?

arthritisR_US

(7,810 posts)
295. I have gay buddies, both male and female. The males
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 08:01 PM
Dec 2013

aren't attracted to me in any romantic or intimate way and the females I'm similarly not attracted to in any physical way. It doesn't make my gay mates heterophobic because they don't want to date me. I have taken them as my "date" for past major functions because we enjoy each others friendship and company. We were safe dates for each other.

I don't think a man who doesn't want to date a transgender is transphobic. The straight man would have difficulty with sexual intimacy when and if the time came so they would just be setting them self up for frustration/disappointment.

I have met guys who don't have close female friends because to them you are either dating and in a close intimate relationship with a woman or nothing at all. Lots of variance to people's comfort zones.

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
296. thoughtful response.
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 08:09 PM
Dec 2013

And pretty much my POV. Thanks.

Jamastiene

(38,206 posts)
260. If you have to ask if you are homophobic,
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 04:53 PM
Dec 2013

with that shitty attitude you just displayed, no less, it means you probably are.

A straight male who does not date men is not always homophobic. There is no correlation.

A straight male who does not date men and feels the need to come here with your shitty ass attitude about it, usually is.

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
291. um, yeah
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 07:53 PM
Dec 2013

the point flew right over your head. whooosh!

NealK

(7,159 posts)
297. Lol.
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 08:22 PM
Dec 2013

The reply of this poster flew so high over your head that it's now in orbit. Whooosh!

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
299. No it didn't.
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 08:28 PM
Dec 2013

It simply reiterated what's been said already by those who didn't understand the thread the OP was referring to.

NealK

(7,159 posts)
304. Yeah, sure.
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 08:40 PM
Dec 2013

You're just a poor misunderstood guy and everybody else is wrong.

I see a little silhouette-o of a man
Scaramouche, scaramouche, will you do the Fandango?

Jamastiene

(38,206 posts)
302. Nope. The point flew right over your head.
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 08:37 PM
Dec 2013

If you have that kind of attitude about it, then you most likely are homophobic, or at the very least resent GLBT people, which might as well be the same thing.

NealK

(7,159 posts)
306. Absolutely.
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 08:56 PM
Dec 2013

And I was generous when I said that your point flew so high over his head that it's now in orbit. It now have reached the Andromeda Galaxy. Whooosh!

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
307. What kind of attitude?
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 09:06 PM
Dec 2013

NealK

(7,159 posts)
309. You really have to ask?
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 09:15 PM
Dec 2013
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
274. Judging from the question? Probably not, but judging from the posts of yours I've seen over the past
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 05:48 PM
Dec 2013

Judging from the question? Probably not, but judging from the posts of yours I've seen over the past week or two...? Probably yes.

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
282. "judging from the posts of yours I've seen over the past week or two"
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 06:15 PM
Dec 2013

Oh really?

I haven't posted on any topics with respect to sexuality (other than this one which was posted yesterday) in the past 90 days.

My post topics in the last 90 days:

DU guy who was going to be homeless
The Indian diplomat kerfuffle
Jameis Winston topic

And an OP on learning programming.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1018537816

So you are completely full of crap.

AuntPatsy

(9,904 posts)
276. That depends on the reason you do not date men
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 05:56 PM
Dec 2013
 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
278. I appreciate your hypothesis......
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 06:05 PM
Dec 2013

But no, you are not a homophobe.

You are a heterosexual male who is attracted to and I assume has sex with women.

What would make you a homophobe is if you stated
(a) Homosexuality is a "choice" and prohibited by "God" in the Old Testament
(b) Claimed homos were destroying "traditional marriage" (failed at 56% divorce rate)
(c) Claimed homos were responsible for tornados, hurricanes, AIDS and Miley Cyrus

"Homophobia" is when you hare an inherent, uncontrollable disease that allows you to accept all persons as persons of value. It is when you rant and rave that homos will destroy your marriage and the known world.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
290. WTF are you talking about? That's literally the dumbest question I've ever seen asked on DU.
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 07:51 PM
Dec 2013

Congratulations, you've breached a whole new realm of stupidity...

NealK

(7,159 posts)
298. +1000!
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 08:26 PM
Dec 2013

Totally agree with you.

 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
303. +100000
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 08:39 PM
Dec 2013
 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
305. why'd u rec this thread then?
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 08:47 PM
Dec 2013

NealK

(7,159 posts)
308. For exposure.
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 09:10 PM
Dec 2013

This thread is popcorn worthy.

Deep13

(39,157 posts)
310. If you felt it necessary to post this appropos of nothing, then...
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 09:19 PM
Dec 2013

...I can only respond by asking, I don't know, are you a homophobe?

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
311. Do you believe that transwomen are 'gay man who pretend to be women'?
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 06:00 AM
Dec 2013

That's the ONLY reason one would ask the question you did. There is no other reason for a anyone to draw a parallel between gay men and transwomen.

I tried to explain elsewhere in this post and I will repeat it here:

- transwomen are WOMEN. They were born as WOMEN, just like me.
- transmen are MEN. They were born MEN, just like you.

What I said above is a scientifically proven fact.

Below is a link to a set of very informative articles, please do read them if you are honestly confused. If you have honest questions, ask. I will be happy to explain as long as you honestly want to learn.

World Health Organisation
Genomic resource centre
Gender and Genetics


http://www.who.int/genomics/gender/en/


Page 2:
Genetic Components of Sex and Gender

http://www.who.int/genomics/gender/en/index1.html

Humans are born with 46 chromosomes in 23 pairs. The X and Y chromosomes determine a person’s sex. Most women are 46XX and most men are 46XY. Research suggests, however, that in a few births per thousand some individuals will be born with a single sex chromosome (45X or 45Y) (sex monosomies) and some with three or more sex chromosomes (47XXX, 47XYY or 47XXY, etc.) (sex polysomies). In addition, some males are born 46XX due to the translocation of a tiny section of the sex determining region of the Y chromosome. Similarly some females are also born 46XY due to mutations in the Y chromosome. Clearly, there are not only females who are XX and males who are XY, but rather, there is a range of chromosome complements, hormone balances, and phenotypic variations that determine sex.
 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
316. "Do you believe that transwomen are gay man who pretend to be women"?
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 02:18 PM
Dec 2013

No, I don't. I absolutely don't believe that. I sincerely apologize if anything I said caused you or anyone else offense. That was not my intention.

You're reading something into my question that isn't there. I could have just as easily asked (and probably should've asked instead because it wouldn't have been such a distraction) whether a gay man who doesn't date women is a heterophobe.


 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
318. You are probably a homophobe
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 09:06 PM
Dec 2013

if you have to ask :-P If you were called a homophobe, I doubt it was for being a straight male.

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