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WillyT

(72,631 posts)
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 08:45 PM Mar 2012

Hell...Has Truly Frozen Over...

Why I Am Leaving Goldman Sachs
By GREG SMITH - NYT
March 14, 2012

To put the problem in the simplest terms, the interests of the client continue to be sidelined in the way the firm operates and thinks about making money. Goldman Sachs is one of the world’s largest and most important investment banks and it is too integral to global finance to continue to act this way. The firm has veered so far from the place I joined right out of college that I can no longer in good conscience say that I identify with what it stands for.


I knew it was time to leave when I realized I could no longer look students in the eye and tell them what a great place this was to work.


How did we get here? The firm changed the way it thought about leadership. Leadership used to be about ideas, setting an example and doing the right thing. Today, if you make enough money for the firm (and are not currently an ax murderer) you will be promoted into a position of influence. What are three quick ways to become a leader? a) Execute on the firm’s “axes,” which is Goldman-speak for persuading your clients to invest in the stocks or other products that we are trying to get rid of because they are not seen as having a lot of potential profit. b) “Hunt Elephants.” In English: get your clients — some of whom are sophisticated, and some of whom aren’t — to trade whatever will bring the biggest profit to Goldman. Call me old-fashioned, but I don’t like selling my clients a product that is wrong for them. c) Find yourself sitting in a seat where your job is to trade any illiquid, opaque product with a three-letter acronym.


It makes me ill how callously people talk about ripping their clients off. Over the last 12 months I have seen five different managing directors refer to their own clients as “muppets,” sometimes over internal e-mail. Even after the S.E.C., Fabulous Fab, Abacus, God’s work, Carl Levin, Vampire Squids? No humility? I mean, come on. Integrity? It is eroding. I don’t know of any illegal behavior, but will people push the envelope and pitch lucrative and complicated products to clients even if they are not the simplest investments or the ones most directly aligned with the client’s goals? Absolutely. Every day, in fact. It astounds me how little senior management gets a basic truth: If clients don’t trust you they will eventually stop doing business with you. It doesn’t matter how smart you are.


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Much More: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/14/opinion/why-i-am-leaving-goldman-sachs.html?_r=2&pagewanted=print








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Hell...Has Truly Frozen Over... (Original Post) WillyT Mar 2012 OP
I'm shocked, shocked I tell you! Lil Missy Mar 2012 #1
He worked there for 12 years and witnessed the change arcane1 Mar 2012 #2
The slide started Turbineguy Mar 2012 #3
Hello clients! Don’t trust Goldman Sachs they will rob you and leave your body in the street Vincardog Mar 2012 #4
Yep... And Many Of Them Go Take An "Internship" At The White House WillyT Mar 2012 #5
Yeah. Why is that no Banksters have gone to jail? Why no real Wall Street Regulations? Vincardog Mar 2012 #6
BINGO !!! WillyT Mar 2012 #7
I really do believe that if Obama is elected to a 2nd term, their will be bankster imprisonments. nanabugg Mar 2012 #12
Three Thoughts... 1) I See That Too... 2) What Cowards... 3) How Fucking Sad... WillyT Mar 2012 #13
The Banksters control too much to do it now true. I hope and wish your belief is true. Vincardog Mar 2012 #15
He will get a 2nd term, but don't count on any banksters going to jail got root Mar 2012 #19
shhhhh. /^\ buzzards. lonestarnot Mar 2012 #21
I'll believe it when I see it magical thyme Mar 2012 #25
"the President's on the side of the middle class!" MisterP Mar 2012 #18
And so goes Capitalism.... Taverner Mar 2012 #8
Goldman Sachs’ $1 Million Man: Mitt Romney’s Ties To A ‘Toxic And Destructive’ Bank ProSense Mar 2012 #9
Nice to know GS is probably screwing the Romney investments. dixiegrrrrl Mar 2012 #11
Rmoney is in THREE DOZEN Goldman funds? Canuckistanian Mar 2012 #14
Well, heck, I have three dozen funds.... lastlib Mar 2012 #16
CNN: Goldman Sachs was top Obama donor got root Mar 2012 #20
Sadly.. GopperStopper2680 Mar 2012 #24
Coming Up On TYT/Current Next... WillyT Mar 2012 #10
"Integrity? It is eroding." excuse not to write Mar 2012 #17
this is what will kill the corporatocracy: defections yurbud Mar 2012 #22
I want to hug this man. woo me with science Mar 2012 #23
 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
2. He worked there for 12 years and witnessed the change
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 08:59 PM
Mar 2012

12 years ago was 2000, and we all know what happened after that year. Shocking, I know!


Vincardog

(20,234 posts)
4. Hello clients! Don’t trust Goldman Sachs they will rob you and leave your body in the street
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 09:26 PM
Mar 2012
 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
5. Yep... And Many Of Them Go Take An "Internship" At The White House
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 09:44 PM
Mar 2012
for a couple of years before they rejoin "The Masters of the Universe".


Vincardog

(20,234 posts)
6. Yeah. Why is that no Banksters have gone to jail? Why no real Wall Street Regulations?
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 09:59 PM
Mar 2012
 

nanabugg

(2,198 posts)
12. I really do believe that if Obama is elected to a 2nd term, their will be bankster imprisonments.
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 10:19 PM
Mar 2012

They control too much to do it now...Obama would not stand a chance if his administration did this now. The RW knows that a 2nd term Obama will be quite different than his first term. That's why they incite so many to really hate him for reasons they don't even understand.

 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
13. Three Thoughts... 1) I See That Too... 2) What Cowards... 3) How Fucking Sad...
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 10:26 PM
Mar 2012

for our country, and all of us individually.




Vincardog

(20,234 posts)
15. The Banksters control too much to do it now true. I hope and wish your belief is true.
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 10:33 PM
Mar 2012

I would love to believe it. I would love even more to see it. Unfortunately PBO has fooled me before.

 

got root

(425 posts)
19. He will get a 2nd term, but don't count on any banksters going to jail
Thu Mar 15, 2012, 01:37 AM
Mar 2012

of course i hope i am very wrong (about the jail point, not the election)

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
25. I'll believe it when I see it
Thu Mar 15, 2012, 06:25 PM
Mar 2012

I truly do hope to get to believe it. I suppose it depends in part on how strong the family ties to Geithner are. I'm not holding my breath waiting to find out, but I will be crossing my fingers and toes, praying and hoping for it.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
9. Goldman Sachs’ $1 Million Man: Mitt Romney’s Ties To A ‘Toxic And Destructive’ Bank
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 10:07 PM
Mar 2012
Goldman Sachs’ $1 Million Man: Mitt Romney’s Ties To A ‘Toxic And Destructive’ Bank

By Travis Waldron and Josh Israel

Republican presidential primary frontrunner Mitt Romney (R) is taking a break from the campaign trail a day after finishing third in the Alabama and Mississippi primaries, stopping in New York City for multiple fundraisers and a visit with campaign surrogate Donald Trump. Romney will attend three fundraisers and haul in an expected $2 million this week, bolstering a fundraising total that has already made him Wall Street’s favorite candidate.

More than any other institution on Wall Street, Romney has ties to Goldman Sachs, the firm that was slammed in a New York Times editorial this morning by a resigning executive director who decried the firm’s “toxic and destructive” culture. Romney and his wife, Ann, have investments in almost three-dozen Goldman Sachs funds valued between $17.7 million and $50.5 million, according to his personal financial disclosure forms.

- more -

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/03/14/444533/goldman-sachs-toxic-culture-romney/


lastlib

(28,277 posts)
16. Well, heck, I have three dozen funds....
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 11:46 PM
Mar 2012

...if you count every coin in my piggy bank as a fund.....

 

GopperStopper2680

(397 posts)
24. Sadly..
Thu Mar 15, 2012, 05:28 PM
Mar 2012

This kind of whistleblowing will probably not bring Goldman down. It'll be dismissed as the ramblings of a disgruntled employee with an axe to grind or pushed aside for the most part under coverage of gas prices, Obamacare and other issues more immediate to the taxpayer.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
23. I want to hug this man.
Thu Mar 15, 2012, 04:58 PM
Mar 2012

This is exactly what we need to happen, across the country.

We have to reclaim our humanity and tell the corporate value system to go to hell.

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