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FDR, nuff said: (Original Post) kpete Dec 2013 OP
K&R.... daleanime Dec 2013 #1
But FDR had blood dripping from his fangs! Rex Dec 2013 #2
Oh stop it! cheapdate Dec 2013 #15
Thanks. I'm still a big fan of FDR and Johnson. JDPriestly Dec 2013 #18
In Georgia, waitresses make 2.13 an hour. Nice isn't how much our country loves us. roguevalley Dec 2013 #19
Don't worry. The Fan Club will be here soon to point that out. Doctor_J Dec 2013 #20
One of my favorite FDR quotes. nt FactBasedLifeform Dec 2013 #3
k&r for exposure. n/t Laelth Dec 2013 #4
Happy fucking New Year... progressoid Dec 2013 #5
These multiples are an obscenity. grantcart Dec 2013 #6
DURec for FDR. bvar22 Dec 2013 #7
Why do they pick on Walmart so much then? ErikJ Dec 2013 #8
Public assistance for their hourly employees? moondust Dec 2013 #12
Because Wal-Mart, according their website, employs 1.3 MILLION PEOPLE. Archaic Dec 2013 #22
Their annual revenue is 5 TIMES HIGHER than the 2nd highest retailer in America ErikJ Dec 2013 #23
Did you grow up thinking anybody would make more than McDonald's? Archaic Dec 2013 #24
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Dec 2013 #9
same to you Uncle Joe kpete Dec 2013 #11
Why are they basing that CEO pay on 60 hour weeks? Curmudgeoness Dec 2013 #10
They often count that golf outing as work time. And the luncheon at the five-star restaurant, tclambert Jan 2014 #25
Love me some FDR! Brigid Dec 2013 #13
What do those CEOs do to "earn" it? moondust Dec 2013 #14
They keep the hourlies in poverty Doctor_J Dec 2013 #21
And don't forget about the "Down-Sizing". Another Big Brother-ism. n/t King_Klonopin Jan 2014 #27
But, but, but, CEOs NEED 9k an hour or what's the point of working? Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2013 #16
Show me a CEO that works 60 hour weeks and takes only 2 weeks of vacation... Thor_MN Dec 2013 #17
Yes, but they have to carry around the invisible chains they forge in life, like Marley's ghost, tclambert Jan 2014 #26
eleanor iamthebandfanman Jan 2014 #28
But not the transformational President our current President chose to admire. WowSeriously Jan 2014 #29
, blkmusclmachine Jan 2014 #30
 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
2. But FDR had blood dripping from his fangs!
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 01:49 PM
Dec 2013

Or so I've heard here on the DU. OH well, just throw him under the bus now and get it over with!

cheapdate

(3,811 posts)
15. Oh stop it!
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 03:35 PM
Dec 2013

FDR was our greatest progressive president and yet he stubbornly resisted getting involved in African American's struggle for civil rights and he stripped Japanese Americans of their constitutional rights in the name of national security. Lyndon Johnson probably did more to reduce poverty in American than any president before or since, yet he fabricated the Gulf of Tonkin incident to expand our brutal and deadly war in southeast Asia. Barack Obama has presided over an astonishing growth of the surveillance state and yet he has agressively defended voting rights from the most serious attacks they've faced since the Jim Crow era.

All leaders are fallible. Contradiction is inescapable.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
18. Thanks. I'm still a big fan of FDR and Johnson.
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 05:04 PM
Dec 2013

All leaders make mistakes, but Republicans generally make more and more serious mistakes than Democrats.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
6. These multiples are an obscenity.
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 02:32 PM
Dec 2013


Beyond showing the oppression of the worker they show how the shareholders are getting ripped off.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
7. DURec for FDR.
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 02:50 PM
Dec 2013

I can remember when voting FOR The Democrat was voting for those Working Class Values.
Sadly, this is no longer true.

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
8. Why do they pick on Walmart so much then?
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 02:51 PM
Dec 2013

Looks like theyre all bad--or worse than Walmart. I know that Starbucks has a health plan at least.

moondust

(19,961 posts)
12. Public assistance for their hourly employees?
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 03:27 PM
Dec 2013

I don't know how many of the above do that, but Walmart is certainly the most noticeable elephant in the welfare line.

Archaic

(273 posts)
22. Because Wal-Mart, according their website, employs 1.3 MILLION PEOPLE.
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 10:31 PM
Dec 2013

So while they're "among the leaders" in crap pay, as corporate America would put it, they have massive scale compared to the other companies.

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
23. Their annual revenue is 5 TIMES HIGHER than the 2nd highest retailer in America
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 10:41 PM
Dec 2013

2013 TOP 100 RETAILERS

1 Wal-Mart Bentonville, Ark. $467,896,000
2 Kroger Cincinnati $92,165,000
3 Target Minneapolis $71,960,000
4 Costco Issaquah, Wash. $97,062,000
5 The Home Depot Atlanta $66,022,000
6 Walgreen Deerfield, Ill. $65,014,000
7 CVS Caremark Woonsocket, R.I. $63,688,000
8 Lowe's Mooresville, N.C. $49,366,000
9 Safeway Pleasanton, Calif. $37,532,000
10 McDonald's Oak Brook, Ill. $35,593,000

http://www.stores.org/2013/Top-100-Retailers

Archaic

(273 posts)
24. Did you grow up thinking anybody would make more than McDonald's?
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 10:49 PM
Dec 2013

I mean 13x more revenue than freaking McD's?

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
10. Why are they basing that CEO pay on 60 hour weeks?
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 03:09 PM
Dec 2013

So many companies that I have worked for have been lucky to see the CEO before 10 or 11 AM. And then they head out to the golf course, or to get their hair cut, or a million other things that have nothing to do with business. I doubt that these CEO's are any different. And why only 50 weeks a year?

And why are they basing the number of months that the average worker would have to work overtime to equal CEO pay? That makes it look better than to say how many month an average employee would work 40 hour weeks to equal one hour of CEO pay.....less confusing and more telling.

Very telling informational table. The multiples are shocking.

tclambert

(11,084 posts)
25. They often count that golf outing as work time. And the luncheon at the five-star restaurant,
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 01:22 AM
Jan 2014

and the afternoon cocktail party on the yacht. If they dream about business, they probably count nap time as work time as well. And, of course, if they read the Wall Street Journal while on the toilet, well . . .

moondust

(19,961 posts)
14. What do those CEOs do to "earn" it?
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 03:34 PM
Dec 2013

Sit around under air conditioners making educated guesses? Pinning the tail on a donkey? Discussing the next move the computer that crunched their data tells them to make? Fly around in private jets acting "important"?

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
17. Show me a CEO that works 60 hour weeks and takes only 2 weeks of vacation...
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 04:22 PM
Dec 2013

More like 30 hour weeks with 6 weeks of vacation. Schmoozing with other execs does not count as "work."

tclambert

(11,084 posts)
26. Yes, but they have to carry around the invisible chains they forge in life, like Marley's ghost,
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 01:33 AM
Jan 2014

and though unseen those chains are very heavy. But he was a good man of business, that Jacob Marley.

Honestly, do NONE of this generation of CEOs know the story of "A Christmas Carol?" Do they all want "He was a good man of business" carved on their gravestones? When they are gasping out their last breaths, do they think they will feel proud that they squeezed a few pennies out of their poorest employees in order to make a number on the corporate balance sheet infinitesimally larger? Do they think any number on that balance sheet makes up for the misery they cause?

iamthebandfanman

(8,127 posts)
28. eleanor
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 03:10 AM
Jan 2014

made up for any flaws her husband had... IMHO... our greatest first lady, if you ask me...

I think he was our greatest president.. and most certainly the greatest president in the last 100 years, with out a doubt.

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