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firsttimer

(324 posts)
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 12:24 AM Jan 2014

Tax refund system

I know a single mother who works 20 hours a week
in a spa who and claims she gets back around $11,000 in a tax refund check.

In her job she said she earns gross around $13,000 a year


She told me for the last 4 years she has received on average every year over $10,800 in a tax refund.

I tend to believe her since every year around February she takes a trip to Disney land
with her kids.

How does this work?

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southerncrone

(5,510 posts)
1. Depends on how many kids she has.
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 12:31 AM
Jan 2014

The earned income tax credit is most likely how she does this. She could actually get back MORE than she made using this credit. It is one of the only credits that allows more to be refunded than the person earned.


http://www.irs.gov/Individuals/EITC-Home-Page--It%E2%80%99s-easier-than-ever-to-find-out-if-you-qualify-for-EITC

 

firsttimer

(324 posts)
3. My sister is a single mother of 2
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 12:42 AM
Jan 2014

and she gets back around $3,100 , that's what she told me, I never asked my sister what her gross was.

The young mother I'm talking about has 4 children.

I'm wondering now if my sister should go to an accountant instead of doing her own taxes.

 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
2. I'm sure its possible
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 12:38 AM
Jan 2014

The head of household deduction is pretty large, Earned income credit would be good sized. Those two alone would net her 0 tax liability, and a small refund. Plus, I'm sure her employeer is withholding some taxes, so she will get all of the withheld taxes back. Those two credits along might get a 5k refund (assuming one kid, and you said she has at least two), and there are plenty of more to be had.

I know tax refunds are great, but one thing she should look into is changing her withholding to have her employer withhold 0 in taxes. Maybe she could take home an extra 250 a month, which I'm sure would be a big help, and then she would still get around 7k in refunds.

(Ideally she would want 1k extra a month, but your employer can not withhold negative taxes, they can only withhold nothing.

cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
8. My daugher arranged to have an extra $20 a week taken out of her check for taxes...
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 11:36 PM
Jan 2014

It'll give her quite a bit back when she files next tax year. She wants to get another car with her next refund and decided some planning ahead was in order.

She can make her bills, but the lump sum of money that she gets with a refund helps substantially in other areas.

Packerowner740

(676 posts)
4. My SIL is a high school principle making close to 100 grand annual
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 01:09 AM
Jan 2014

She has one daughter, never married the father of her child. He is a HS football coach and they live together. Because they didn't marry she claims head of household and gets at least $5000 each year on her return. She knows it's a scam but she doesn't care.

cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
7. If that's what she claims on her refund she is not eligible for EIC...
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 11:33 PM
Jan 2014

She may be getting that back from itemizing her deductions.

cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
6. It's the one time a year that some people are able to do anything of substance...
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 11:30 PM
Jan 2014

Both my daughters bought cars with their refunds. We've paid large outstanding bills, bought computers, financed vacations and so on.

The earned income credit makes it possible depending on income and dependents.

I don't have a problem with this at all.

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