Snowden Docs : Nazi Aliens Rule U.S. .

[Sand Wind]

Well, at least according to Iran's semi-official (and frequently batty) news agency, Fars, they do. Controlled since at least 1945 by shadowy aliens known as the "Tall Whites," America is being run according to the dictates of an "alien/extraterrestrial intelligence agenda" set by these otherworldly visitors, who have a surprising history in aiding Adolf Hitler. "Stunning," "cataclysmic," and "explosive" are a few of the words used to describe the report, which if any of it made any sense would certainly not be far off.





http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2014/01/13/fars_news_claims_snowden_docs_reveal_america_is_run_by_hitlerite_aliens

[Blue_Tires]

1. Well, for months and months I've been begging Greenwald to get to the GOOD stuff...

Maybe I'm o.k. with going back to the boring stuff for a little while longer...

[L0oniX]

22. Alerting

...for emoticon abuse

Poor things.

[Agnosticsherbet]

2. I've suspected reptilians rule the US and thee world, but if the NSA documents are there...

Who am I to argue.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

3. Quick! Triple the Pentagon and NSA budgets to protect us from...somebody or something!

[OnyxCollie]

4. UFO's discussed in Cablegate docs.

http://www.wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/1975RABAT01225_b.html

1. PERHAPS RELATED TO PHENOMENA DESCRIBED REFTEL, MARCH
18 LE MATIN CARRIED REPORT THAT HUNDREDS OF CASABLANCANS
HAD SEEN TWO UFOS HOVERING WEST OF CITY ON PRECEDING
EVENING. OBJECTS DESCRIBED AS GREENISH IN COLOR, BECOMING
LUMINOUS BEFORE RISING SLOWLY TO DISAPPEAR OVER
WESTERN HORIZON. ON FOLLOWING DAY, PAPER SAID SAME
PHENOMENON OBSERVED OVER RABAT AND FES AND EVEN OVER
NORTH OF SPAIN BUT EXPLAINED IT AS NO MORE THAN AN INFREQUENT
CONJUNCTION OF VENUS WITH SIRIUS, CITING "AMATEUR CASABLANCA
ASTROLOGIST" AS AUTHORITY. (WE PRESUME ASTRONOMIST TERM
INTENDED).

2. WE HAVE NOT BEEN QUERIED OFFICIALLY BY GOM AUTHORITIES
ON PHENOMENON AND HAVE SEEN NO REPORTS ON OTHER UFO
SIGHTINGS. LE MATIN'S EXPLANATIONS SEEM TO HAVE SATISFIED
LIMITED OFFICIAL USE

LIMITED OFFICIAL USE

PAGE 02 RABAT 01225 110917Z

THE FEW DIPLOMATS AND OTHER OBSERVERS WHO INITIALLY
WONDERED WHETHER THE U.S. MIGHT HAVE BEEN INVOLVED.
NEUMANN


LIMITED OFFICIAL USE


https://www.wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/1976RABAT05209_b.html

1. YESTERDAY, THE 23RD OF SEPTEMBER, COL HOUSNI BENSLIMANE,
COMMANDER OF THE ROYAL GENDARMERIE, REQUESTED TO SEE ME AT
1000 HOURS THE SAME DAY. WHEN HE ARRIVED, COL BENSLIMANE SAID
THAT THE KING HAD SENT HIM TO DISUCSS THE SIGHTINGS OF
UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECTS (UFO'S) OVER MOROCCO ON THE NIGHT
OF 18-19 SEPTEMBER. ACCORDING TO COL BENSLIMANE, THE
GENDARMERIE HAD RECEIVED CALLS FROG AGADIR, THE MARRAKECH AREA,
CASABLANCA, RABAT, KENITRA AND OTHER AREAS REPORTING THE
SIGHTING OF UFO'S BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 0100 AND 0130, THE
NIGHT OF 18-19 SEPTEMBER. REPORTS FROM THESE WIDELY SEPARATE
LOCATIONS WERE REMARKABLY SIMILAR, I.E., THAT THE OBJECT WAS
ON A GENERALLY SOUTHWEST TO NORTHEAST COURSE, IT WAS A
SILVERY LUMINOUS CIRCULAR SHAPE AND GAVE OFF INTERMITTENT TRAILS
OF BRIGHT SPARKS AND FRAGMENTS, AND MADE NO NOISE. HE PROMISED
TO PROVIDE FURTHER DETAILS TODAY, THE 24TH OF SEPTEMBER AND
ASKED THAT WE FURNISH ANY INFORMATION THAT WE MIGHT HAVE ON
THESE SIGHTINGS. COL BENSLIMANE SAID THE KING WAS PERSONALLY
INTERESTED. I PROMISED THAT WE WOULD DO WHAT WE COULD.

2. TODAY, THE 24TH, A MAJOR MOHAMED LISSAOUI OF THE ROYAL
GENDARMERIE MET WITH DATT AND GAVE HIM A SUMMARY OF THE
SIGHTINGS. LISSAOUI ALSO PERMITTED DATT TO LOOK AT DRAWINGS
CONFIDENTIAL

CONFIDENTIAL

PAGE 02 RABAT 05209 250817Z

OF THE UFO PREPARED BY VARIOUS INDIVIDUALS, INCLUDING HIMSELF,
WHO HAD SIGHTED THE UFO.

3. THE TIMES OF THE SIGHTINGS VARIED FROM 0100 TO 0200 HOURS
ON THE MORNING OF 19 SEPTEMBER, WITH THE MAJORITY OF THEM OCCURRING
BETWEEN 0100 AND 0130 HOURS. SIGHTINGS WERE REPORTED FROM
AGADIR, KALAA-SRAGHNA, ESSAOUIRA, CASABLANCA, RABAT, KENITRA,
MEKNES AND THE FEZ REGION. THERE WAS GENERAL AGREEMENT THAT THE
UFO WAS PROCEEDING ON AN APPROXIMATELY SOUTH TO NORTH COURSE,
GENERALLY PARALLEL TO THE MOROCCAN ATLANTIC COAST, AT AT
ESTIMATED ALTITUDE OF 1,000 METERS, AND THAT THERE WAS
ABSOLUTELY NO SOUND FROM THE UFO.

4. DESCRIPTIONS OF THE UFO FELL INTO TWO GENERAL CATEGORIES,
I.E., A TYPE OF SILVER COLORED LUMINOUS FLATTENED BALL (DISC-
SHAPED), OR A LARGE LUMINOUS TUBE-SHAPED OBJECT. OBSERVERS
REPORTED THAT THE OBJECT INTERMITTENTLY EMITTED BRIGHT SPARKS
FROM THE REAR.

5. MAJOR LISSAOUI SAID HE WAS SENT TO BRIEF DATT ON THE
SUBJECT BECAUSE HE HAD HIMSELF SIGHTED THE UFO WHILE RETURNING
FROM THE CITY OF KENITRA AT ABOUT 0115 IN THE MORNING. HE
DESCRIBED THE UFO AS FLYING PARALLEL TO THE COAST AT A RELATIVELY
SLOW SPEED, AS IF IT WERE AN AIRCRAFT PREPARING TO LAND. IT
FIRST APPEARED TO HIM AS A DISC-SHAPED OBJECT, BUT AS IT CAME
CLOSER HE SAW IT AS A LUMINOUS TUBULAR-SHAPED OBJECT.

6. I FRANKLY DO NOT KNOW WHAT TO MAKE OF THESE SIGHTINGS,
ALTHOUGH I FIND INTRIGUING THE SIMILARITY OF DESCRIPTIONS
REPORTED FROM WIDELY DISPERSED LOCATIONS. IN ANY EVENT, I WISH
TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND PROMPTLY TO KING HASSAN'S REQUEST FOR
INFORMATION, AND WOULD APPRECIATE ANYTHING YOU CAN DO TO
ASSIST ME IN THIS.
ANDERSON


CONFIDENTIAL

[dionysus]

5. .

[treestar]

16. Round up the usual suspects

[SidDithers]

6. Oh my...

Sid

[sabrina 1]

9. 'Oh my indeed. Those Wikileaks cables were fascinating to read. We got a lot of confirmation on what

were previously only 'theories'. It is amazing what our diplomats actually view as 'important' as we learned. And people wonder, who have not bothered to read them, why the almost total loss of confidence in 'official' public statements which when compared to the behind the scenes 'discussions' simply verified those who raised questions.

Too bad people don't read. They would have a better understanding of why we are where we are today on just about everything.

tldr, a declaration of 'don't bother me with facts'!

[SidDithers]

11. ...

Sid

[sabrina 1]

14. Didn't read them, did you? You seem flummoxed! The cure for flummox is education, information

and a desire for facts, rather than the comfortable fiction of propaganda. Thankfully with the spread of facts, (thank YOU Wikileaks, Snowden, Binney, Drake, Manning et al and all those to come), fewer people are flummoxed these days.

A dying breed, the eternally flummoxed and not a moment too soon. :

[MrMickeysMom]

19. You would think understanding the nature of these cables was the important thing...

… so that we might determine why many who authored them were "embarrassed" by their exposure.

To click a crazy emoticon is perhaps convenient when there is not an emoticon for, "I didn't know that".

[muriel_volestrangler]

20. Are you talking about the Wikileaks cables in this thread?

Because they consist of "some Moroccans said they saw a UFO; I've no idea what they saw". I really can't see why that is of any interest to anyone at all.

It looks like a desperate attempt by a UFO True Believer to see if they can get some Wikileaks credibility to rub off on to them. It's also a thread hijack (the thread is about how the Iranian news agency fell for the BS put out by the hoax site whatdoesitmean.com).

[treestar]

17. That first paragraph was worthy of Sarah Palin.

[sabrina 1]

23. In what respect, treestar?

Care to comment on the substance of the post? This used to be a discussion forum, remember?

[Octafish]

7. NAZIs are America's real immigration problem.

Know your BFEE: Nazis couldn t win WWII, so they backed Bushes

[Bandit]

8. If America gets the same kind of aid the NAZIs got we could be in trouble

If history is any indication, aliens sure didn't help the NAZIs all that much. They done got their asses whooped....

[sabrina 1]

10. Unfortunately a bit too late for millions of human beings.

[nadinbrzezinski]

12. Are people looking over my shoulder and reading my notes? (for fiction that is)

[hootinholler]

13. I thought you were gonna talk about Operation Paperclip

Which essentially is the same thing without the extraterrestrial woo.

[zappaman]

15. It's true.

[treestar]

18. Al Lien

Hair: none

[grantcart]

21. Still waiting for Snowden docs to tell us about things that are happening in Russia.

Like murdering reporters or oppressing the gay community.

Certainly GG, a gay reporter, must be publishing secret cables that shed light on this corrupt regime.

No? I wonder why.

[sabrina 1]

24. First they would have to be provided with factual information. That is how it works

Do you have information that prompted this comment, that Greenwald is in possession of such material but holding it back for some reason? That is my understanding of your comment but perhaps I am reading it incorrectly?

[grantcart]

27. Here are the facts

1) Russia is a country whose brutal KGB Officer/President has been directly and credibly tied to political murders and murders of journalists. Even those murders that were not part of Putin's direct involvement still are part of an atmosphere of intimidation against journalists that Putin encourages. Here is a partial list of those murders:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_Russia

This ongoing attack on journalists, which for example includes the expulsion yesterday of Satter goes unreported and unremarked among the GG apologists at DU.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/13/world/europe/russia-journalist-expelled/

Occasionally Putin's carefully sculpted PR façade slips and his admiration for the mass murdering Stalin slips out:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/vladimir-putin-soviet-leader-joseph-stalin-was-no-worse-than-oliver-cromwell-9016836.html

“What’s the real difference between Cromwell and Stalin? None whatsoever,” Mr Putin said on Thursday, according to news service RIA Novosti.

Mr Putin made the comments at a press conference after he was asked about a monument to Stalin being put up in Moscow.

The city said recently that it planned to commemorate all Soviet leaders who had lived there.

The president said that Stalin was just as deserving of a statue in his honour as that “cunning fellow” Cromwell who “played a very ambiguous role in Britain’s history”.

2) Pogrom against Gays. The oldest trick in the Czarist book is when you are starting to get exposed domestically then start a pogrom to divert attention. Now he has updated the Czarist technique with an attack on Russian Gays. Human Rights activists believe that after the Olympics that the situation for Gays in Russia will deteriorate seriously.

http://www.wbur.org/npr/260457414/how-will-nbc-cover-gay-issues-during-russian-olympics

3) Glenn Greenwald, a gay journalist, is helping Putin by allowing him to create a Potemkin type image that he is against terrible government actions and the great proponent of human rights. Glenn Greenwald and Wikileaks stay silent on journalistic oppression, including murder by Putin and the pogrom against Gays.

4) GG and Wikileaks have received cables not simply related to the US, but virtually every country around as part of the cache from Manning and others that reveal terrible secrets that have harmed those countries national image and interests. But when it comes to Russia the most critical documents that we seem to get are 6 year old reports on the meat industry.

http://www.wikileaks.org/wiki/CRS:_U.S.-Russia_Meat_and_Poultry_Trade_Issues,_September_11,_2008


GG has been conspicuously quiet about the worst human rights abuses by any developed country. If you google Glenn Greenwald criticizes Russia you will get almost nothing, but this is the 4th item in my search:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3386635

But Greenwald is a guy who frequently gets the big issues wrong, as he did on the invasion of Iraq.

As to your sophomoric question on what I know that Greenwald is in possession of but is holding back?

Really?

How does anybody have any knowledge of what anybody else knows but refuses to disclose.

In this case the facts about Russian actions are not particularly secret and you would have to assume that Greenwald was in possession of the basic facts.

But Greenwald goes even further. In this lengthy article he discloses a very detailed knowledge of Russian human rights abuses. He uses that knowledge not to attack Russia but to attack human rights activists who criticize Russia (and Ecuador who is also a candidate for Snowden asylum) in this lengthy article in the Guardian in which he attacks human rights activists who criticize Russia.

His title of the article is:Human rights critics of Russia and Ecuador parade their own hypocrisy

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/aug/21/human-rights-critics-russia-ecuador

He concludes with this heaping mound of bull

would take more seriously all of this very inspirational, newfound worry about Ecuadorian press freedoms and Russian free speech rights on the part of Western media figures if they evinced any similar interest in infringements and abuses by their own governments and their allies: ones much more difficult, though much more consequential, to oppose.

The NSA 215 program probably is an over hyped under performing waste of government money that doesn't have enough oversight and safeguards. Those serious problems need to be addressed before innocent people are hurt by loss of property or life. To put this on the same footing as the journalist/political murdering, Stalinist loving, gay bashing dictator Putin, is rather laughable.

Now why has GG gotten so protective of his investment in Russia with Snowden's temporary sanctuary? Because if it falls apart and both Manning and Snowden suffer from some very bad strategic advice, which I believe both have received from GG (and now I don't have a copy of his emails) then perhaps others will begin to question their future with him.

So why has GG gone tone deaf on the ongoing persecution of journalists and gays in Russia?

http://www.ibtimes.com/ebay-founder-pierre-omidyars-250m-news-venture-glenn-greenwald-receives-first-tranche-funding

Pierre Omidyar, the founder of eBay (NASDAQ: EBAY), on Thursday, dropped $50 million, the first tranche of a $250 million investment, into his ambitious new journalism venture launched with Glenn Greenwald -- the former Guardian journalist who broke several stories on surveillance programs carried out primarily by the U.S. government.

This is more time and effort than GG deserves so I leave you with the final reply and last word the Human Rights (except never say a word against the worst guy) Journalist (unless its news about Russia) Gay (who expresses no solidarity with those being targeted for prosecution) Glenn Greenwald.

[Sand Wind]

30. + 1000

[sabrina 1]

31. That didn't answer my question at all. You implied that Greenwald was in

possession of material NOT known to the public but was holding it back for some reason.

I could link you to huge Civil Rights violations, torture, wrongful killing by our Police and our Military and of abuses against minorities, see Stop and Frisk eg as one tiny example, our horrendous prison system, all of which is public knowledge and then ask 'Why doesn't so-and- so report on all this, I'm still waiting for to hear from them on this.


Greenwald published documents he received from a Whistle Blower.

My question, since you implied that you were waiting for him to do the same Re Russia, was 'did he receive material regarding Russia that he is holding back'.

I take it the answer is 'no'. Perhaps he will and if he does I would expect, knowing his record, that he would publish it. But since he hasn't the comment had no meaning.

I'm assuming you support Whistle Blowers exposing corruption wherever they find it and that it isn't a 'well they did it too' situation in order to diminish what has been released due to the assistance of witnesses to the crimes.

Wikileaks eg has exposed corruption in many countries around the world.

WE otoh are supporting, financially as well as militarily, Dictators in several countries. Why doesn't he write about that? Because that was not the material he received.

We are supporting the Bahrain Dictatorship even as the brutalize their Civil Rights activists.

We are supporting the Karamov of UZbekistan dictatorship despite their record of brutality against Civil Rights activists, genocide, murder, torture etc.

It's a long list of Dictators we are supporting who are torturing, jailing and even killing Civil Rights Activists, including Uganda speaking of anti-gay governments.

The US is in no position right now to point fingers elsewhere, which we are constantly told sadly, until we clean up our own act.

For every abuse you list about Russia, someone will remind you of our own Civil Rights abuses.

Greenwald released information that is of importance to US because we can't fix Russia, which you seem to be saying, we have yet to get back our own Civil Rights.

[Sand Wind]

32. I ask this question several time to Assange :

"How is it that you never publish anything about Russia"

All I got as answers from his part where nonsense, scrolling, and threat...in fact, he never accept to give a direct answer to my questions.

[sabrina 1]

34. Except he did. And about China too. Really, you too appear to be grossly

misinformed about why Wikileaks became so credible. The Chinese were not pleased, to say the least, with Wikileaks, nor were the Russians. And apparently neither is the US.

It's always fascinating to see the anti-Wikileaks contingency on Liberal Blogs. Amazing actually, since Liberals up to the Chelsea Manning revelations touted Wikileaks as the 'new and much needed media' for several years before that. They still do actually. But then along came people who apparently had no knowledge of Wikileaks until recently. What is even more astounding is that considering that most of Manning's revelations were about Bush War Crimes, is the support for Bush war criminals now.

Makes you wonder.

Mostly the Bankers have never been pleased with Wikileaks ever since they exposed the corruption in Iceland which led to prosecutions and the overturning of a Government that collaborated with the corrupt Bankers. Thank you Assange and Wikileaks for the only time they were actually held accountable.

[Sand Wind]

36. No he did not, he publish stuff that come from US about Russia, but nothing that come from

A Russian agency...

If I'm wrong, and it's possible, show me.

[rhett o rick]

50. Let's see if I get your logic. If they published only stuff about US war crimes and not Russian war

crimes then _____________ what? Then they are Russian spys? What?

[Coyotl]

41. Then you need a CIA whistleblower instead of an NSA one.

[rhett o rick]

44. Logical fallacy - suggesting guilt by insinuation. Plez. nm

[Ganja Ninja]

25. And it's every bit as believable as America's top cable news netork.

Which is also run by a white alien.

[Cleita]

26. I thought historically they were called The Illuminati and

Nazis were only one branch of them.

[Berlum]

28. Annunaki - some say

[mainer]

29. check out "Nephilim"

Those would be the creatures he's describing.

[Berlum]

38. Yoiks !

[Aerows]

47. Iranian government is describing n/t

[Warren DeMontague]

33. If they were helping Hitler, they did a piss-poor job of it.

Last time I checked, he lost the war.

[sabrina 1]

35. Ask Hitler's victims if they 'did a piss poor job of it'.

[Warren DeMontague]

37. Excuse me? Did you misread the thread? Uh, I had family members in Buchenwald, thanks.

However, this thread- and the "they" in question- is about Aliens.

[WinkyDink]

40. Last time you looked wasn't enough. Germany rules the EU, for one thing. Nazis built NASA.

[Warren DeMontague]

42. Okay, i'm wrong.

Aliens are clearly pulling the strings on global politics. My bad.

[zappaman]

45. I hope you have learned your lesson.

Next up: crop circles.

[Warren DeMontague]

48. That's exactly the sort of thing a soulless scientific materialist Illuminati lizard moon bomber

would say.

[WinkyDink]

39. The "Nazi" part isn't so far off. (See: Bush and Descendants, Prescott).

[whistler162]

43. YES!!!!! I was right, HURRAH.

[Aerows]

46. Please, proceed

and see who is making that claim. I dare you.