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infoviro

(59 posts)
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 12:29 PM Jan 2014

Cops Beat a Deaf Man for Seven Minutes Because He didn’t Respond to Their Yelling

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/cops-beat-deaf-man-minutes-respond-yelling/



At this time, only limited details can be provided since this case is under investigation.

1. The Oklahoma Highway Patrol pulled Pearl over late in the evening on January 3, 2014. Pearl pulled over as he should.

2. Pearl’s driver’s license indicates he is Deaf. He also has a placard in his driver’s door that says, “Driver is deaf”.

3. Pearl pulled over and rolled down his window, expecting an officer to ask for this identification. An officer struck him in the face before Pearl had the chance to do anything. As you can see, he was struck multiple times.

4. An interpreter was never provided while Pearl was under the care of law enforcement. Not during the booking, hospital, or time at the jail was an interpreter provided, even through Pearl requested one.

5. Pearl was left wondering “why” the the entire time. He has no clue why he was beat. Pearl and his family are still not sure, but are ready for some answers.

6. Pearl’s own son is a police officer, as was his son-in-law, who is now a deputy sheriff. He respects law enforcement and knows how to respond when pulled over. There is no reason for someone like Pearl to be hurt like this by those who are meant to protect and serve.

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Cops Beat a Deaf Man for Seven Minutes Because He didn’t Respond to Their Yelling (Original Post) infoviro Jan 2014 OP
True heros! nt Logical Jan 2014 #1
*facepalm* Dash87 Jan 2014 #2
Oh for crying out loud!!!! tblue Jan 2014 #3
"First strike with the least provocation." TroglodyteScholar Jan 2014 #9
Thugs with badges. ellie Jan 2014 #43
So sad! peace13 Jan 2014 #4
"under the care of law enforcement?" Really? Brigid Jan 2014 #5
Sadly, this is nothing new KamaAina Jan 2014 #6
Obviously a lawsuit is coming. Baitball Blogger Jan 2014 #7
Is it really "the police department" that loses?... Hulk Jan 2014 #12
That's always the case, isn't it? Baitball Blogger Jan 2014 #17
you are missing nothing LiberalLovinLug Jan 2014 #25
The taxpayer since Kelvin Mace Jan 2014 #30
Jail time for those responsible is often missing. merrily Jan 2014 #67
The "Police Department" loses NOTHING. bvar22 Jan 2014 #13
Maybe it's time to do just that. Baitball Blogger Jan 2014 #18
Long past. n/t Mojo Electro Jan 2014 #56
Agreed PeoViejo Jan 2014 #20
I think that ANY law broken by anyone involved in the "justice" system obxhead Jan 2014 #58
When big brother fosters militarism of the police, the troops will treat citizens as indepat Jan 2014 #8
Well put TroglodyteScholar Jan 2014 #10
Pearl’s own son is a police officer; his son-in-law is a deputy sheriff? rocktivity Jan 2014 #11
Something RobinA Jan 2014 #54
This is something I worry about. lpbk2713 Jan 2014 #14
I would keep a big sign saying "HEARING IMPAIRED" in my car and my home merrily Jan 2014 #69
I can see one reason why he got beat to shit by LEO's. Ikonoklast Jan 2014 #15
That's what I was thinking gaspee Jan 2014 #16
There should be a rule in law enforcement; that they refuse to hire base animals Rex Jan 2014 #19
There is a rule. It is exactly the opposite. Shoedogg Jan 2014 #36
... Arcanetrance Jan 2014 #21
I like this! oldandhappy Jan 2014 #52
Living while black malaise Jan 2014 #22
But the officers responded according to their training. jsr Jan 2014 #23
That will teach him. Savannahmann Jan 2014 #24
The perps need to be tried, fined, fired and jailed DFW Jan 2014 #26
Lord have mercy shenmue Jan 2014 #27
fuck tha police.. frylock Jan 2014 #28
Day after day, week after week, these stories roll in, and the bodies pile up hatrack Jan 2014 #74
I think about stories christx30 Jan 2014 #29
still upset handmade34 Jan 2014 #31
To many deaf means you just need to yell abelenkpe Jan 2014 #32
Why does this happen? Kelvin Mace Jan 2014 #33
Oh no! gollygee Jan 2014 #34
More On The Circumstances DallasNE Jan 2014 #35
Allegedly... BklnDem75 Jan 2014 #45
Thats just awful. mstinamotorcity2 Jan 2014 #37
Seattle cop kills partially deaf man for not responding, then turning to look. RIP John Williams uppityperson Jan 2014 #38
Wow, the cop just swaggers off camera and shoots the guy. Rex Jan 2014 #41
He never ID'd himself, just yelled "hey, drop the knife" to someone walking away in the city. uppityperson Jan 2014 #42
Horrible. Rex Jan 2014 #46
I counted five shots. Did he miss once? tclambert Jan 2014 #44
I don't recall how many exactly, sorry. Uncalled for though. If I was walking in big city and heard uppityperson Jan 2014 #47
I am partially deaf in my left ear. Ikonoklast Jan 2014 #55
:( BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2014 #50
Holy shit. LAGC Jan 2014 #60
Thank you for posting that! countryjake Jan 2014 #64
Reading about it at the time was bad, wondered wtf had happened. Then they released the uppityperson Jan 2014 #65
Brave police officers Dopers_Greed Jan 2014 #39
There is an old joke around these part.... AnneD Jan 2014 #40
"protect and serve" . . . you did mean that as a joke, right??? OldRedneck Jan 2014 #48
just ..... silent.....I feel sick at this.... BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2014 #49
We have a major gestapo problem (NT) The Wizard Jan 2014 #51
kick Liberal_in_LA Jan 2014 #53
Oh...but we are not a police state to some in here davidn3600 Jan 2014 #57
There can be one new horrible story like this each and every day... Silent3 Jan 2014 #77
The occupying military forces dispenses with some more one-size-fits-all "enforcement" Scootaloo Jan 2014 #59
Yay cops! I feel so much safer. 99Forever Jan 2014 #61
DWB. WinkyDink Jan 2014 #62
He is not white... awoke_in_2003 Jan 2014 #63
This is what happens when we lower the standards Live and Learn Jan 2014 #66
Shoulder cams on all police would solve everything... go west young man Jan 2014 #68
While I have been slow to bash police across the board, I agree with everything you say. Hoyt Jan 2014 #76
I am tired of bourgeois "solutions" to racist, police brutality TomClash Jan 2014 #70
They were just punishing the man... nikto Jan 2014 #71
The filthy cops were suspended, hell they should be in jail! Why B Calm Jan 2014 #72
No Words cer7711 Jan 2014 #73
The only thing that is ever going to stop this sufrommich Jan 2014 #75
Seems like enough apples to bake a rather large pie... Earth_First Jan 2014 #78
I have a profound loss azureblue Jan 2014 #79
Yep. Cops are the worst gang in the US right now. nt ZombieHorde Jan 2014 #80

tblue

(16,350 posts)
3. Oh for crying out loud!!!!
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 12:32 PM
Jan 2014

What is wrong with so many cops? First strike with the least provocation. This poor man! I hope he recovers ASAP and gets a settlement, and I hope that cop does time.

TroglodyteScholar

(5,477 posts)
9. "First strike with the least provocation."
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 12:50 PM
Jan 2014

THAT is what we've become accustomed to. But this case went beyond that... beyond "first strike" (7 minute beating) and with absolutely zero provocation.

Setting a new standard....

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
6. Sadly, this is nothing new
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 12:36 PM
Jan 2014

In Honolulu, a Deaf man won a huge judgment against the douchebadges who wrestled him to the ground and beat him -- for walking on a section of sidewalk marked "Sidewalk Closed"! On the other side of the island, a Deaf friend of mine found himself on the ground and cuffed after a routine traffic stop.

Baitball Blogger

(52,021 posts)
7. Obviously a lawsuit is coming.
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 12:37 PM
Jan 2014

I wonder how much the police department has to lose financially before they smarten up.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
12. Is it really "the police department" that loses?...
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 01:10 PM
Jan 2014

..or is it we, the tax-paying public?

Figure, he gets sued for a few thousand, maybe even hundred thousand. The police department has some insurance to cover for these thugs posing as "protectors of the public", and then the department picks up the tab. OR, the insurance pays it all, and the premiums keep going up; cause we all know insurance companies work "on a profit".

Then, the dept has a tighter budget, which in turns means less protection on the streets, which in turn means more crime. Hence, this is a vicious cycle that just continues to screw the public tax payer and the citizens of these communities. How disgusting.

What am I missing?

Baitball Blogger

(52,021 posts)
17. That's always the case, isn't it?
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 01:35 PM
Jan 2014

You have to spend your own money for civil justice, while the police uses your tax money to defend their heinous behavior.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,636 posts)
25. you are missing nothing
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 02:03 PM
Jan 2014

And the police department just goes on like nothing happened. There's even a good chance the cops get off, because he didn't just lay there and accept his well deserved pounding, and actually raised his hands to ward off the blows (ie. resisting arrest).

And yeah, the taxpayer picks up the tab.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
67. Jail time for those responsible is often missing.
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 03:56 AM
Jan 2014

Of course, there is always the dreaded suspension with full pay.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
13. The "Police Department" loses NOTHING.
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 01:13 PM
Jan 2014

Until the individual bad cops are punished with prison, punitive damages, and asset seizures,
nothing will change.

 

obxhead

(8,434 posts)
58. I think that ANY law broken by anyone involved in the "justice" system
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 05:53 PM
Jan 2014

should have 3 times the minimums applied to the violators.

Police
DA's
Judges
Magistrates
Congress
Senate
etc etc etc

If you make laws, decide on laws, or enforce laws they should apply triple to you.

indepat

(20,899 posts)
8. When big brother fosters militarism of the police, the troops will treat citizens as
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 12:44 PM
Jan 2014

enemy insurgents?

rocktivity

(45,006 posts)
11. Pearl’s own son is a police officer; his son-in-law is a deputy sheriff?
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 01:09 PM
Jan 2014

Sounds like a job for Internal Affairs -- this could be "personal."

rocktivity

lpbk2713

(43,260 posts)
14. This is something I worry about.
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 01:19 PM
Jan 2014



I'm hearing impaired and can't afford hearing aids. I have tinnitus in both ears. And while I do have partial hearing, I can't always make out what people are saying. I carry the results of my latest hearing test on my visor in case I have to get to it quickly to provide proof. The last thing I need is some cowboy in a blue uniform kicking me around because he thinks I'm being uncooperative.


merrily

(45,251 posts)
69. I would keep a big sign saying "HEARING IMPAIRED" in my car and my home
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 04:01 AM
Jan 2014

after reading this story.

gaspee

(3,231 posts)
16. That's what I was thinking
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 01:33 PM
Jan 2014

DWB is a serious offense in some parts of the country and a suspicious activity in most.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
19. There should be a rule in law enforcement; that they refuse to hire base animals
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 01:36 PM
Jan 2014

and instead hire real human beings to be peace officers. Just a thought.

DWB.

Shoedogg

(516 posts)
36. There is a rule. It is exactly the opposite.
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 02:26 PM
Jan 2014

They *want* mindless animals.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836

Court OKs Barring High IQs for Cops

A man whose bid to become a police officer was rejected after he scored too high on an intelligence test has lost an appeal in his federal lawsuit against the city.

The 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in New York upheld a lower court’s decision that the city did not discriminate against Robert Jordan because the same standards were applied to everyone who took the test.

Jordan, a 49-year-old college graduate, took the exam in 1996 and scored 33 points, the equivalent of an IQ of 125. But New London police interviewed only candidates who scored 20 to 27, on the theory that those who scored too high could get bored with police work and leave soon after undergoing costly training.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Sure. That's the reason. Uh huh.

DFW

(59,994 posts)
26. The perps need to be tried, fined, fired and jailed
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 02:06 PM
Jan 2014

And for the maximum sentence allowable, preferably in a facility with a LOT of lifers who are minorities.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
28. fuck tha police..
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 02:09 PM
Jan 2014

and fuck the inevitable defense of the fucking pigs with their fucking "few bad apples" bullshit. fuck. them.

hatrack

(64,651 posts)
74. Day after day, week after week, these stories roll in, and the bodies pile up
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 10:10 AM
Jan 2014

And nothing fucking changes.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
29. I think about stories
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 02:10 PM
Jan 2014

Like this whenever I hear about a cop getting killed in the line of duty. I think maybe it wouldn't have happened if the cop had been less of an asshole. Cops are not the good guys at all. They are a gang that can literally murder you and probably get away with it.
Support your community. Any time there is a bond election to support the local police force, vote no.

handmade34

(23,966 posts)
31. still upset
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 02:12 PM
Jan 2014

from watching "Fruitvale Station" last night…

we are so deep into the hate, suspicion, fear, racism, confusion, ignorance… that sometimes it feels like there will never be a way out

abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
32. To many deaf means you just need to yell
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 02:12 PM
Jan 2014

My grandmother was deaf. Could only read lips. So we'd ask people to speak slowly and she'd understand. Often, after explaining this people would start yelling slowly. She couldn't hear at all so the yelling was unnecessary.

This is so wrong though! Doesn't sound like the patrol even tried to communicate, just starting beating him for no reason.

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
33. Why does this happen?
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 02:12 PM
Jan 2014

Because it is de facto legal for police to murder people with impunity.

DallasNE

(7,991 posts)
35. More On The Circumstances
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 02:22 PM
Jan 2014

Apparently, Pearl had left the scene of a minor traffic accident prior to being pulled over making him not completely innocent in this case. But that in no way excuses the behavior of the Oklahoma Highway Patrol.

Here is the link. http://fox4kc.com/2014/01/13/group-cries-foul-after-they-say-police-beat-deaf-man-over-resistance/

BklnDem75

(2,918 posts)
45. Allegedly...
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 03:17 PM
Jan 2014

False charges and beating the snot out of someone usually goes hand in hand.

uppityperson

(116,007 posts)
38. Seattle cop kills partially deaf man for not responding, then turning to look. RIP John Williams
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 02:51 PM
Jan 2014
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/12/23/court-releases-video-deadly-police-shooting-native-american-seattle/

Recently released footage from a police cruiser’s dashboard camera shows the events leading up to the fatal shooting of a partially deaf man by a Seattle police officer.

John T. Williams, a Native American wood carver who was partially deaf, was killed on August 30th after walking past Officer Ian Birk, 27, on the street with a knife in his hand.

The dashboard camera footage shows Williams slowly crossing the street in front of Officer Birk’s police cruiser. Birk then approached Williams and repeatedly told him to “put the knife down.” Seconds later, Birk shot him four times.

(clip)
Birk said he shot Williams because he refused commands to drop the weapon, putting Birk in fear for his life. Williams’ friends and supporters argued that he may not have even heard the officer’s commands.



Dashcam vid. Shooting occurs offscreen but you can hear the shots. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr



http://jonathanturley.org/2011/05/28/seattle-pays-1-5m-to-family-of-victim-of-police-shooting/
Birk resigned Feb. 16 after the release of a scathing report by the Firearms Review Board report that found, among other problems, that Birk didn’t identify himself as a police officer as he approached Williams from behind. Williams was crossing the intersection while carving on a piece of wood with a legal knife (shown here in a police photo). The knife was folded shut when found by officers.

Williams, who was deaf in one ear, was shot in the side, not facing the officer.

Officer Birk was not criminally charged in the shooting.
 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
41. Wow, the cop just swaggers off camera and shoots the guy.
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 03:03 PM
Jan 2014

So he loses his job, but stays out of jail and will probably end up working in law enforcement again in some other state. Great.

uppityperson

(116,007 posts)
42. He never ID'd himself, just yelled "hey, drop the knife" to someone walking away in the city.
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 03:08 PM
Jan 2014

When Mr Williams started to turn to see who was yelling, he was shot 4 times in the back and side.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
46. Horrible.
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 03:17 PM
Jan 2014

And this guy will probably work again in law enforcement! He just flat out got away with murder and only had to worry about losing his job!

tclambert

(11,187 posts)
44. I counted five shots. Did he miss once?
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 03:13 PM
Jan 2014

It sounds like the Firearms Review Board got it right.

uppityperson

(116,007 posts)
47. I don't recall how many exactly, sorry. Uncalled for though. If I was walking in big city and heard
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 03:18 PM
Jan 2014

"hey, hey, drop the knife" I'd turn to see who was yelling at who, never thinking it was me that was the issue. And I'd probably be frowning as the cop said Mr Williams was. (That was in the testimony I saw back in the day of the hearing, he turned with a frown) . And being partially deaf myself, it would make it all harder to tell wtf was going on.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
55. I am partially deaf in my left ear.
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 04:35 PM
Jan 2014

Last time I was in a traffic stop, the LEO got angry when I kept asking him to repeat his questions, because with passing traffic I had trouble understanding him.

He finally shouted, "WHAT ARE YOU, DEAF?"


I replied, "Yes, a little bit. I am partially deaf in my left ear. I am not trying to piss you off, but you need to come around to the right hand side of my vehicle so I can hear what you're saying."

He turned beet red and walked around...this was an Oklahoma state trooper.

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
64. Thank you for posting that!
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 09:30 PM
Jan 2014

Peace to John and his wondrous Totems.

The killing of John T. Williams, a Ditidaht First Nation Master Carver, murdered for whittling on a stick of wood.

The videos are still so hard to watch...

uppityperson

(116,007 posts)
65. Reading about it at the time was bad, wondered wtf had happened. Then they released the
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 09:35 PM
Jan 2014

dash cam video and it is, imo, murder. The cop instigated a "confrontation" and when he turned to see who was yelling? argh

AnneD

(15,774 posts)
40. There is an old joke around these part....
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 02:59 PM
Jan 2014

The reason Texas does not slide off into the Gulf of Mexico....Oklahoma sucks so much.

A bully is a bully, whether they have a badge or not.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
49. just ..... silent.....I feel sick at this....
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 03:40 PM
Jan 2014

So many of my friends are Deaf...been an interpreter for 25 years.

In Rochester, NY, police go through awareness training as a matter of course because the Deaf population is so large.

 

Silent3

(15,909 posts)
77. There can be one new horrible story like this each and every day...
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 10:59 AM
Jan 2014

...and that shows there's a huge problem of police brutality to be fixed. But that's not the same thing as what "police state" means, no matter how much you roll your eyes.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
59. The occupying military forces dispenses with some more one-size-fits-all "enforcement"
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 08:18 PM
Jan 2014

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
61. Yay cops! I feel so much safer.
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 08:29 PM
Jan 2014

(If don't realize that was sarcasm, you ned your oil checked.)

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
66. This is what happens when we lower the standards
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 03:17 AM
Jan 2014

for how officers are allowed to behave. Anyone given power must be held to the highest standards of the law and public etiquette.

 

go west young man

(4,856 posts)
68. Shoulder cams on all police would solve everything...
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 03:57 AM
Jan 2014

and make for great training tools. Watch the corruption just disappear and think of all the info that would be readily available to help understand accidents, procedures and medical techniques all readily available for court cases and insurance companies on an internal server that can be downloaded in an instant. No more paperwork and reports. Authorities are the ones who should be having their lives recorded...not citizens. As our police have turned to being thugs and have no respect for human life it's well past time we moved into the future and move the thugs into the past. Personally I believe this militaristic police brutality mindset is another consequence of the Iraq war and the "troops" coming home except now "we" are the enemy instead of Iraqi citizens.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
76. While I have been slow to bash police across the board, I agree with everything you say.
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 10:55 AM
Jan 2014

I think it is time for shoulder cams on every policeman/woman.

It will definitely encourage proper behavior. I don't expect it to be pretty, police sometimes have to be tough asses, and there are a lot of good ones.

But crud like this poor man's treatment/brutalization is beyond rationalization. Even good police should welcome shoulder cams. It will help them defend themselves against false charges, and get rid of the asshole bullies.

I also agree that too many police are former troops who are attracted to this kind of crud. This is not a war zone, and everyone is not a potential terrorist.

TomClash

(11,344 posts)
70. I am tired of bourgeois "solutions" to racist, police brutality
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 05:27 AM
Jan 2014

Old fashioned, revolutionary justice is in order.

 

nikto

(3,284 posts)
71. They were just punishing the man...
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 05:47 AM
Jan 2014

...For all the children the cops killed in Iraq and Afghanistan when they were soldiers acquiring their
current case of terminal PTSD.


Beating on the man alleviated their guilt for a few minutes.
Until the cops' next fix.

But don't worry---Many of those cops (the ones with a shred of remaining humanity)
will commit suicide before they collect their pensions.

Part of the plan, perhaps?



PTSD-affected soldiers make perfect cops for a police-state.

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
72. The filthy cops were suspended, hell they should be in jail! Why
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 06:08 AM
Jan 2014

did they pull him over to begin with? Oh yeah, I think we know that answer.

cer7711

(612 posts)
73. No Words
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 10:06 AM
Jan 2014

Last edited Thu Jan 16, 2014, 10:43 AM - Edit history (1)

How many times are we going to read this story--or something similar--before we make lasting structural changes to policing?

You know what I would like to see? In my dream of a finer, better world, a cop sentenced for felonious assault-&-battery would not only have to serve time but pay restitution directly to the victim's family and spend community service time helping same (if the family approves): painting their house, mowing the lawn, running grocery errands.

Hopefully, time spent in close proximity to victim and family will humanize the assaulted person in the cop's mind, helping him develop a sense of empathy and genuine regret. All towards civilizing his behavior, so that the next time he's in danger of losing control and acting like a fascist brute Rogue Cop thinks before acting.

As a society, we should demand police live up to their motto: "We serve and protect."

Not: "We curbstomp at whim."

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
75. The only thing that is ever going to stop this
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 10:12 AM
Jan 2014

is jail time for the police officers involved and massive costs to police departments through lawsuits.

Earth_First

(14,910 posts)
78. Seems like enough apples to bake a rather large pie...
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 11:04 AM
Jan 2014

Not a pie I'd be willing to eat personally, given that the apples are festering rotten.

What.The.Fuck.

azureblue

(2,713 posts)
79. I have a profound loss
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 11:53 AM
Jan 2014

and this is one of the things hard of hearing / deaf people fear the most- stupid cops who think you are faking it. I can attest - I got stopped - I tried to explain to the dumbass that I could not hear him, I have a major hearing loss and his response was to ignore me and threaten to throw me in jail. He got really mad when I had to keep asking him to repeat himself, and said "what?" a lot. So what did the cop do? - instead of giving me a ticket for 70 in a 60, he wrote it up as an 85 in a 60.

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